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Throwing 24 packets of food from a high flying aircraft is not feeding the starving. It did not.

The purpose of poomalai was not to feed starving Tamils, but to tell Lankan government that India could do whatever it wants and Lanka cannot do anything about it. Them Rajiv sent a message that Lanka should stop the construction of Voice of America station in Lanka and agree not to allow western naval vessels in trincomalee. Lanka had to agree. It did. In return India sent its Innocent People Killing Force (IPKF) to destroy the defenders of Tamil people in 1987. India failed in its mission and the defeated Indian army left Tamil soil in 1990,

India never helped Tamil people. It used them to get America out of Lanka. It was cold war time and india was always pro USSR
Did you counted the packets or you have any idea about no of sorties AN 32 flew ?

India still helping Tamils in their rehabilitation by spending millions every year,only an ungrateful LTTE sympathizers like yourself says otherwise.

IPKF was a military victory what they achieved in just 3 years it took Lankans more than two decades.

And yeah IA enjoyed hunting LTTE suicide bombers it also gave us valuable war experience both for SOF and regular infantry.
 

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It was a mistake to get involved with the communist African National Congress and LTTE everything else RAW did was fine....

https://politics.knoji.com/things-y...-of-death-corruption-and-white-extermination/
Nope if Rajiv has not given free hand to srilanka by sending peace forces , now there wouldn't have been reports srilanka arresting our fisher man now and then. And even Rajiv would have been alive. And raw would have made srilanka part of Indian Union.... Oops my opinion...
 

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Nope if Rajiv has not given free hand to srilanka by sending peace forces , now there wouldn't have been reports srilanka arresting our fisher man now and then. And even Rajiv would have been alive. And raw would have made srilanka part of Indian Union.... Oops my opinion...
Rajiv policies was naive & idiotic.IIRC reading articles from veterans long back in local newspapers, where IPKF was fighting LTTE & RAW was supporting LTTE to much chagrin of Indian Army. It was a big clusterfck!
 

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some of you make me sick. no humanity. no kindness.
Rajiv policies was naive & idiotic.IIRC reading articles from veterans long back in local newspapers, where IPKF was fighting LTTE & RAW was supporting LTTE to much chagrin of Indian Army. It was a big clusterfck!
basically we fought our own agents and resources with our forces... Rajiv ordered suicide to our own plans en game... he had to die. So this fact made srilanka not great full to India peace forces sacrifice. They think we cleared our own shit. What intrigues me Rajiv Gandhi nexus, if any with foreign intelligence which would have influenced him to reverse the plans of Indira.

I think srilanka is playing big mistake by entertaining China... This time India will make No errors playing nice guy. Seems Srilankas history would repeat again... Can anyone provide links about the stakes Europe USA invested on ltte and China on srilanka government are of what purpose... And how they see srilanka as an asset. And this involvement of foreign agencies in srilanka how would they undermine our interests of influence?
 

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some of you make me sick. no humanity. no kindness.
Kindness for whom ?

Your kind who killed a former PM and tried to seceded Tamil Nadu into a greater Elam.Always remember Abdul Kalam was a Tamil and a ideal of Indians irrespective of region.No Tamil will ever sympathies will Christian terrorist Prabhakaran.

Pakistan embassy is overly active in Sri Lanka among Tamil Musalman,a couple of years back there was a train blast in South India (i don't remember the city) it was very rare since South India is a terrorism free land.Intelligence agencies uncovered the nexus of Pak embassy and Sri Lankan tamil Musalman.The same nexus is now active in Kerala.

Almost entire money is given by pak in the name of rehabilitation is for Tamil musalman not for Majority lankan Hindus this has been done for their greater strategic interests.

I perfectly know your kind active on Paki forum too with some other id tries to demean India under the guise of North South and Brahman hegemony etc.

There are several Tamil members on this forum ask anyone about separate Tamil country and by the way it was Madras regiment who lost 9 including a Tamil Musalman to save the integrity of India.
 
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basically we fought our own agents and resources with our forces... Rajiv ordered suicide to our own plans en game... he had to die. So this fact made srilanka not great full to India peace forces sacrifice. They think we cleared our own shit. What intrigues me Rajiv Gandhi nexus, if any with foreign intelligence which would have influenced him to reverse the plans of Indira.

I think srilanka is playing big mistake by entertaining China... This time India will make No errors playing nice guy. Seems Srilankas history would repeat again... Can anyone provide links about the stakes Europe USA invested on ltte and China on srilanka government are of what purpose... And how they see srilanka as an asset. And this involvement of foreign agencies in srilanka how would they undermine our interests of influence?
after Indira, and during nehru.. congress always had/has a bad habit of bringing two institution of national power be it any at the verges of rivalry and enmity.

The govt. In Sri Lanka needs to be clear and they will even win the second term. But if they support China strategically then I am afraid, Sri Lanka would see Maldives like situation soon.
 
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@k murali

I also noticed you take offense that India poked its nose in sri Lankan affairs and stopped Voice of America station and western vessels.let me tell you its a India of Chanakya not timid Ashoka.

You are forgetting that India is not a sub trillion economy,we are among the few global power only behind US and China and you expect Puny Sri Lanka to screw us in our own backyard.

Did US allowed Soviet nukes in Cuba ?

Interference in these satellite small countries is necessary to secure our interests,its not a choice but our right.We saved Maldivian Arse for several times even send a C 17 full of potable water during crisis,we are the biggest aid provider during Nepal Earthquake,Bhutan is our Protectorate.Bangladesh has also been tamed after we finalized the Land swap agreement and all their life line rivers are controlled by us.It learned the lesson hard way.

We can arm Myanmar rebels and army at will if we want to teach Bangladesh a lesson,more than 60 plus infiltrator shot dead between 2004 to 2010 including little Felani.

Bangladesh already kicked China out from the port projects,sri Lanka did the same and now Rajpakhsha crying us a river.

Now only one left is Pak who didn't bow to us but look what India did to that country since 1947 till today.
 
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R&AW has given the Pakis that wound that they still get haunted when they hear 'Muktibahani'

Looks like Pakis are trying to produce a case at UN against Indian involvement in Dhaka for sure. Through this they will discuss KASHMIR indirectly. It's a mischievous plan.


http://arynews.tv/en/mukti-bahini-foreign-office/


Pakistan’s Foreign Office is still clueless about proceeding further on admission by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi about active role of Indian forces in collaboration with Mukti Bahini in East Pakistan.

Evidence has emerged that Indian Army and Mukti Bahini assaulted, maimed, raped and killed thousands of Bengalis in East Pakistan in events leading upto the 1971 war between India and Pakistan.

Official archival records reveal that atleast 102 Mukti Bahini militants massacred more than 76557 innocent people, including women and children in events leading upto the 1971 war.

Yet, Pakistan’s Foreign Office has not been able to come up with a clear plan to take up the matter internationally, what to talk of even staging mock public trials of collaborators of Mukti Bahini and Indian forces in Pakistan as being done against Pakistan Army officers in Bangladesh.

Accounts given by former senior Indian army officials and senior operatives of Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) detail the elaborate plans which were in put in place to blame the atrocities in East Pakistan on Pakistan Army.

B.Raman, an officer who served RAW for 26 years, in his memoirs “THE KAOBOYS OF R&AW,” mentions how the then Indian Prime Minister, Indira Gandhi, was a born “psywarrior” and ordered establishment of R&AW’s Psychological Warfare (PSYWAR) Division to put Pakistan in the dock internationally for the human rights situation in East Pakistan.

Major General (retd) Sukhwant Singh in review of “Indian Wars Since Independence” acknowledges the role of full and formal involvement of Indian Army since April 30, 1971 in raising the Mukti Bahini as a guerilla force to wage warfare of the Vietcong type.

Before, April 30, the Indian Border Security Force (BSF) was training and supplying weapons to Mukti Bahini to target Bengalis and installations to raise public sentiments against Pakistan Army troops stationed in East Pakistan.

“Every six weeks, 2000 guerillas were trained by RAW, capable of taking on the enemy in hit and run encounters, thereby seriously disrupting Pakistani force in many places,” writes Asoka Raina in his book “Inside Raw-The Story of India’s Secret Service.”

The books by the senior intelligence and armed forces officials who were at the helm of affairs at that time reveal that contacts were established with “pro-Mujib” faction way back in 1962-63 in Agartala.

Pakistan arrested Sheikh Mujib-ur-Rehman in Agartala Conspiracy Case but had to release him due to domestic political compulsions and international pressure managed by Indian foreign office.

“A provisional Bangladesh Government in exile was formed at Calcutta at Theater Road on April 14, 1971 and the name of the capital was given as Mujib Nagar,” writes RK Yadav, a former RAW officer in his book, “Mission Raw.”

Former Indian Army Chief, General VK Singh, in his book, “Courage and Conviction” details how Indian Army officials were fighting alongside Mukti Bahini even much before the break out of war between India and Pakistan.

As Bangladesh starts mock trial of Pakistani officers, it is worth questioning if the trail of individuals of Mukti Bahini would also be staged who were responsible for gross human rights violations.

To begin with, following are some of the names culled from extensive research who were involved in atrocities on people in East Pakistan but blame of their actions was put on Pakistan Army:

Mr. Mujibur Rehman s/o Mishrutulla Mondol, Village Armotta, PS Adamdighi, Distt Bogra (15 August 1971)

• Organizing Santahar Awami League miscreants and inciting them to rape women followed by their naked parade before being shot dead. Many people were burnt alive and over 15000 (Fifteen Thousand) dead bodies were left open in the streets

Mr. M.A. Gafur s/o Late Jonab Ali, Dharmasave Cross Road, Khulna Town, Khulna

• Organizing para military training camp in Khulna
• Planning and assisting murders and arsons in Crescent Jute Mills Khalispar and Star Jute Mills Chandimahal in which approximately 5000 innocents were killed and a large numbers of houses were destroyed in the incidents

Mr. Mustafizur Rehman Siddiqi s/o Haji Mohammad Hussain Chaudhary, Village south Rahmantnagar, PS Sitakund, District Chittagong

• Organising a slaughter house in the office of Awami League where men, women and children were systematically massacred. In many cases, blood was drained through syringes ostensibly for the blood bank of the new country to be formed.
• Organizing bands of the defunct Awami Leauge volunteers who went on the rampage looting and massacring and setting fire to entire colonies in the main town as well as in the outlying areas in which thousands of innocents were put to death

Motahar Hossain Talukdar s/o Nazimuddin Talukdar, Liaqat Ali Road, Sirajganj, Pabna (12 August, 1971)

• Indulging in looting of district treasury Pabna to the tune of 35,700,000 (Rs35.7 Million) rupees.
• Taking away two railway engines with passenger bogies with filled with looted food grains from Ishradi to India.
MPA Elect Mozaffar Hossain s/o Haji Rahamatullah, PK village Betgari, PO and PS Shibganj, District Bogra (2 September, 1971)

• Taking part in looting the State Bank of Pakistan, Bogra and taking away an amount of Rs. 67 Million.
• Organizing mass arrests of thousands of innocents and subsequently looting their property.
• Looting Bogra Police Station armory and arming the miscreants with the looted weapons.
• Killing 17 Pakistan Army officials and 12 others at Bogra.

Mr. Mohammad Azizur Rehman Advocate s/o Late Akimuddin, resident of Mohammadpur Union Council No II, PS Tahakurgaon, Dinajpur

• Organized killing, looting, burning of houses of innocent in which 3000 people were killed in Thakurgoan. Young girls were abducted, raped and those pregnant bayoneted, still born babies were torn to pieces, corpses dragged naked along the streets.
• Instigating the absconders of East Pakistan Rifles to rebel and kill all of the West Pakistani Officers and men.

Mr. Shah Mehtab Ahmed Advocate s/o Late Haji Serajuddin Shah, Village Uttar Palashbari, PS Chirr-Bandar, District Dinajpur

• Organizing resistance against Pakistan Army in the constituency.
• Killing over 2000 innocent people including old men, women and children.
• Instigating absconders of East Pakistan Rifles and Awami Leauge volunteers for unleashing mass rapes followed by killing of raped victims.

Mr. Quamuruzzaman s/o Shamsuddin Ahmed, Village Kanchannogar, PO & PS Jhenidah, Jessore

• Organizing looting of National Bank of Pakistan Jhenidah branch and taking away Rs 22.915 million to India.
• Organizing looting of Jhenidah and surrounding area police station armories and arming hooligans with the looted weapons.
• Organizing killing of innocent people residing in Jhenidah area.

Mr. Atwar Rahman Talukdar s/o Haji Jesiruddin Talukdar, Village Mathurapur, PO Jabaripurhat, PS Badalgachi, Rajshahi

• Looting bank at Naogaon and taking away 60 lakh rupees to India.
• Taking leading part in killing of peaceful citizens in Naogaon in which 35 families were butchered

Mr. Abdul Hamid s/o Tayabuddin Haji, Village Kamlapur, PO Nikh Dhampara, District Mymensigh

• Organizing violent mobs armed with rifles, swords, spears, daggers and Ramdaoes, attacking and killing male members of Shankipara and other colonies in and around Mymensigh town in which hundreds of innocent people were killed.
• Forcing the district jail open and allowing convicted criminals to escape and inciting them to commit loot and arson the city of Mymensigh.

Mr. Khundker Abdul Hafeez s/o Abdul Wadud Kundker, Village Mohishkhola, PO and PS Narail, District Jessore

• Organizing brutal killing of 65 innocent people who were rounded up from all over PS Narail
• Bringing 500 women from Jessore and getting them massacred after they were raped under his direct supervision.

MPA Elect Imajuddin Pramanik s/o Hajrat Ullah Parmanik, Village PO Chaksaila, District Rajshahi

• Looting and killing 900 innocent people of his area.
• Organizing resistance against law enforcing agencies in PS Mauda.

MPA Elect Dr. Moinuddin Ahmed s/o Dr. Kalimuddin Ahmed, Village Monakasha Sadartole, District Rajshahi (2 September, 1971)

• Taking part along with Mr. AAM Meshbahul Haq (Bachchu Doctor) MPA Elect PE 44 in looting National Bank of Pakistan at Nawabganj and taking the looted to India.
• Taking leading part in raiding village Kansat, PS Shibganj, assaulting the villagers indulging in looting and taking away their valuables.
• Collaborating with the rebel of East Pakistan Rifles in killing Army personnel and 790 non-locals in Nawabganj.

MPA Elect S M Yousaf s/o Late Kasimuddin Ahmed Shah, Village Mokleshpur, PS Biral, District Ahmed Dinajpur (2 September, 1971)

• Organising killing of 300 non local at Dinajpur town and surrounding area
• Inciting Police, East Pakistan Rifles personnel, Ansar and Mujahids to revolt against the government

Mr. Nurul Huq s/o Abdul Majid, Village Hajipur, PS Begumgong, Noakhali (27 August, 1971)

• Organizing looting of government godowns in Feni, looting of National Bank of Pakistan and taking away looted money to India.
• Interfering with the move of the Army on 25th March 1971 by blowing bridges on Comilla-Chittagong Road.
• Forcibly taking over 30 buses, 50 trucks and one jeep and taking them away to India where he was running a transport service exploiting this looted property.

Mr. Mohammad Hanif s/o Late Maulvi Ibrahim, Village Kalikapur, PS Begumganj, District Noakhali

• Blowing bridges and culverts in Noakhali district which resulted in hampering of food supplies and other necessities of life.
• Organising resistance to Army operations in restoring peace in the area of Belonia.

MPA Elect Mr. Siddique Hussain, s/o Khayer-uddin, Mouza Bakhtarpur, PS Kotwali, Rangpur

• Organising and participating in looting and burning of 40 shops and houses on 3 March 1971 at Rangpur.
• Organising Sangram Parishad in the villages with a view of participating in anti-state activities
• Organising and leading an attack on Rangpur Cantonment on 28th March 1971

MPA Elect Abdul Hakim s/o Mafujuddin Sheikh, Hasanabad, District Rangpur

• Organized rebel groups in his area fighting against Pakistan Army.
• Organising the killings of 2000 plus innocent people including women and children at Kurigram and Lalmohirhat.

MPA Elect Quamaruddin Ahmed s/o Late Haji Md Ibrahim, Nutanasti, PS Panchagarh, District Dinajpur

• Organized a rebel force by seducing Police, East Pakistan Rifles personnel and Ansars of his constituencies and with them fought against the Army.
• Organized and conducted the killing of 700 non locals of his area.

MPA Elect Dr Zikrul Haq s/o Dir Ziarutullah Ahmed, Natun Babupara, PO and PS Saidpur, District Rangpur

• Organized and abetted killings of 500 non-locals and set fire to their houses.
 

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Professor Boyle: India is Guilty of "Complicity" in Sri Lankan Tamil Genocide

Dr. Francis A. Boyle is Professor of International Law at the Illinois University College of Law in United States of America (USA). Professor Boyle is an expert on international law and in 1993 he was responsible for winning two World Court orders against Yugoslavia on the basis of the 1948 Genocide Convention; these orders relate to Yugoslavian actions during Bosnian war.

http://www.tamiltribune.com/09/0803.html
 

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Rajiv Gandhi indeed ditched the Tamils. But Tamils also made a mistake in over-estimating their own resources.

I agree that Indian Government MUST BE sympathetic to Tamil cause in Sri lanka. How that is achieved is something that needs to be planned.

Tamil sometimes act as their own enemies. If Tamil elite keep on criticizing Indian govt., then it is unlikely that there will be an alignment of forces in favour of Tamils.

Tamils have to create a favourable environment for such critical decision.
 

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@raja696 Rajiv did not deserve to die. His intentions were in right place(to nip Prabhakaran, lest the fire spread to TN), but he was too naive for politics at that time. Prabhakaran was just another case of Congress betting on wrong horse, during Indira's time. And its outcome is that today, Tamilians issue in Lanka has been sidelined. Prabhakaran was the worst thing ever happened to Lankan Tamils.
 

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@raja696 Rajiv did not deserve to die. His intentions were in right place(to nip Prabhakaran, lest the fire spread to TN), but he was too naive for politics at that time. Prabhakaran was just another case of Congress betting on wrong horse, during Indira's time. And its outcome is that today, Tamilians issue in Lanka has been sidelined. Prabhakaran was the worst thing ever happened to Lankan Tamils.

Hi can any body help me to understand supposedly in history if prabhakaran is successful in liberating tamils in srilanka... is there any intelligence that same prabhakaran would instill unrest in to tamilnadu to separate it from India.... what are reasons prabhakaran turned against Indian ruling class but won support of RAW covertly which felt rajiv decision is back stabbing of his own country.... there is contridiction...
 

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Hi can any body help me to understand supposedly in history if prabhakaran is successful in liberating tamils in srilanka... is there any intelligence that same prabhakaran would instill unrest in to tamilnadu to separate it from India.... what are reasons prabhakaran turned against Indian ruling class but won support of RAW covertly which felt rajiv decision is back stabbing of his own country.... there is contridiction...
Dunno sir, dunno. As I said the whole thing boggles mind..
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...se-investigator-says/articleshow/39723139.cms
 

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India cannot get stuck in Rajiv era forever. India will have to move forward.

Everybody needs friends. If all India has is enemies, then future may look challenging.

As India is working in Afghanistan despite so many problems, same should be with Tamils in Sri Lanka.

However it is necessary that Tamil themselves support India.
 

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