Rakibools Shoot BSF Jawans on their Backs as they're returning from a Flag Meet

What Should Be the Indian Response

  • Diplomatic Option: Get Bangladesh to Apologize and Courtmartial those Involved

    Votes: 27 36.0%
  • Tactical Option: Indiscriminately Kill One BGB personnel, preferably headshot, and injure another

    Votes: 48 64.0%

  • Total voters
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bose

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BC Bangladeshi ab hamare jawano ko maarne ka baad celebrate kr rhe hai or yeh FIR likwa rha hai in bc Bangladeshi ka visa band kro
We have failed BSF and the country as a whole ... It is clear that BGB is at fault and they started the firing inspite of the orange flag to show intent for a flag meeting between forces for the release of the fisherman ...

Now it should be we Indian be in offensive rather for some strange reason we kept quite and the national news papers have started giving Bangladeshi perspective without verifying the actual events that happened ...

Bangladeshis are very clever and cunning now they want to defuse the situation with sweet talks ...

Just like Bangladeshis were celebrating when India lost in the just concluded semi Final of cricket World cup in England ... Now also they are celebrating the killing of BSF Jawan as a victory ...

India have to retaliate and sent the dead bodies of BGD and Bangladesh to show their nation what will happen if you you do these types of badmashis ... Mind it ... irrespective of good relationship with Hasina ...

I may sound like a war mongerer but it is essential
 

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FIR against Border Guard Bangladesh over BSF jawan's killing

TOI.
 

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Hey, I understand your emotions. Irking for revenge when you have a dagger stabbed in your back is completely normal. But acting without thinking about consequences is immaturity, which our dear western neighbour suffer dearly.

Ask yourself -
  • Is it worth it to start a war for an unfortunate incident? (Yeah, even if it was intentional, BGB do not support it, it was the mischief of the local commander).
  • Is it worth it to make another Islamic trigger-happy enemy, having a large number of uneducated and extremist population and sharing a large unmonitored border with us?
To your suggestion -


We will be seen as invaders and bullies. Already Kashmir situation hot, this is not a good move.



Pakistan will keep on being, well, Pakistan. China won't care. However, our other smaller neighbors, Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar and Sri Lanka will start to fear India, along with a latent fear that they, too will be annexed next time, making them cozying up (more) with China (Profit !) and avoiding India.

“The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Don't invoke another fool when we had Gandhi already. Fools who think the pen is mightier than the sword actually had never faced the barrel of AK-47.
Why do you think Bangladesh will go for war if you shoot back 10 of its soldiers?? If yes, then Bangladesh has better self-respect than us
Take Israel which undertook many military campaigns over civilian's murder. fear of 100% retaliation from Israel makes Arab shit in pants.
Russian diplomats kidnapped in Lebanon. in response, Russia gifted pair of the testicle to the head of terrorists belong to his family member which resulted in terrorists were begging to Russia take back diplomats because they were fearing what would happen if somebody else killed diplomats. it has been 30 years nobody dared to kidnap Russian diplomats.
Our western neighbour or any Islamic country is suffering due to Islamic ideology not because of showing spine.
Do you believe Pakistan return Abhinandan due to our diplomacy or Kadi ninda?? No. Abhinandan returned because India's Missile attack was imminent over Pakistan
 

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People on this forum are too trigger happy and think world politics is Age of Empires. Don't we have enough enemies on all sides that we need to make another one?

Yeah, the incident is unfortunate, and I bet heavily that it was indeed a misunderstanding. Even if it was a trigger happy BGB commander, do we need to prove the whole Bangladesh and world that we have the bigger dick? Punish Bangladesh and become belligerent in local people's opinion?

You know, if we take revenge as many members are voicing here, who will have the upper hand? India will be the loser. China and Pakistan will have the upper hand and laughing at the foolishness of India.

Rather, force them to make a formal apology by BGB chief, or maybe their external affairs ministers. Force BGB to court marshall the miscreants and give them a strict sentence equivalent to intentional franticide.

What we face isn't a border issue between Canada or USA or Mexico it is neither China and Indian border.

This is not the first time either

We helped Bangladesh take action against shakti/shanti bahini in late 70s where most of the tribal Hindus were against Bangladeshi Muslim forcing their identity on them.

We have basically acted like a coward and jaichand to our own people. Due to which Bengal became a mess illegal inside India became the lord. Border areas of Bengal and other states have suffered and paid so much due to this it's unexplainable.

And what makes you think Bangladesh won't turn on us. They are preparing and doing everything against Hindus out there while we get lecture on world politics.

China also have enemy all around but they don't shy away from making their statement heard. Bangladesh need to be tamed they will attack us if not today then later.

It is still the age of empires around us . Mr Xi is life time emperor of China and Muslim have Caliphate to establish.

The weeks are never forgiven in the history they are mocked and killed . Bangladesh is a ticking time bomb from east and we are giving up Bengal and other areas to keep them happy .
 
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There are two scenarios ,
1. If India decides to kill a few ,then ball will be in bangladeshis court ,either it will settle down after a period or whole of indo -bangla border will become active which will cause problems to us initially but in long run smuggling activities will come drastically down and we will shoot the illegal smugglers.
As I mentioned earlier, the tactical option will cause a cycle of violence in the short term, but in the intermediate- and long-term, it will make those rakibool monkeys fear/respect the BSF, and more importantly, teach them the hard way what not to do in a flag-meeting. This is a more sustainable solution.

The diplomatic option will "diffuse" the current situation, but will not fix BGB's attitude. Nothing long-term ever comes out of this "vasudeiva kutubakam" bunkam.

Time to load some Vidhwansaks with hollow-points.

 
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We have failed BSF and the country as a whole ... It is clear that BGB is at fault and they started the firing inspite of the orange flag to show intent for a flag meeting between forces for the release of the fisherman ...

Now it should be we Indian be in offensive rather for some strange reason we kept quite and the national news papers have started giving Bangladeshi perspective without verifying the actual events that happened ...

Bangladeshis are very clever and cunning now they want to defuse the situation with sweet talks ...

Just like Bangladeshis were celebrating when India lost in the just concluded semi Final of cricket World cup in England ... Now also they are celebrating the killing of BSF Jawan as a victory ...

India have to retaliate and sent the dead bodies of BGD and Bangladesh to show their nation what will happen if you you do these types of badmashis ... Mind it ... irrespective of good relationship with Hasina ...

I may sound like a war mongerer but it is essential
Retaliation is not an option anymore. At least not a good one. As for the fact that we have failed bsf, we we failed hell lot of our institutions for political goals. Agree with you there.
 

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Retaliation is not an option anymore. At least not a good one. As for the fact that we have failed bsf, we we failed hell lot of our institutions for political goals. Agree with you there.
Sorry Brother, I have to agree to disagree with you.

I would have considered your thoughts if the Bangladeshis have arrested that rogue BGB personal and have taken concrete steps like an apology. but you see their government is justifying their force and just wanted to defuse temporarily with some sweet talks ...

As a self respecting nation we can not take this type of behavior from a nation for whom we have given our blood for their freedom ...

The best possible option as I see at this point of time is that since GOI has maintained silence post the tragic incident too long and it is since more than two days over ... I would suggest GOI continue to maintain silence and give a free hand to BSF to avenge the killing and continue treat it as a happening of a local nature ...

I can assure you one single shot at BGB will make the Bangladeshis drop their lungis ...
 

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Do you know about inertia in physics? Well there is very high inertia against acting against banglabros. You should know how bad things are when a bsf jawan was suspended and arrested for shooting an illegal immigrant.
Now there was a small window during that incident that we could have disproportionately retaliated and then descalated the matter but unfortunately that didn't happen because the decision maker realised that the entire might of state will come down on him .

On the surface we have good relations with Bangladesh. If we initiate military action now after 2 days of kvetching to avenge an "accident" know how will this look .

We can always covertly do things but then it will be kind of pointless. Bodycount is something that hasn't really mattered to mudslimes.

The best way to go is pressure hasina to initiate action against the perpetrator. If we had a half competent information warfare ministry, a bunch of reports or articles at world news orgs would have popped up by now.
 

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3 smugglers, 9 intruders held at Bangla border

https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/3-smugglers-9-intruders-held-at-bangla-border/1644176


Now let them come for Flag meeting.
This is it. Amit Shah is going for the tactical option. Throughout the border India will maintain an aggressive stance, and keep them guessing. At a place and time they least expect, we will hit BGB.

BSF has a large stock of AMRs and ace marksmen. Ideally the unit mates of the BSF martyr will be given the opportunity to take revenge.

After the revenge Amit Shah will dial his Bangladeshi counterpart to talk peace. This is his MO.
 

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Do you know about inertia in physics? Well there is very high inertia against acting against banglabros. You should know how bad things are when a bsf jawan was suspended and arrested for shooting an illegal immigrant.
Now there was a small window during that incident that we could have disproportionately retaliated and then descalated the matter but unfortunately that didn't happen because the decision maker realised that the entire might of state will come down on him .

On the surface we have good relations with Bangladesh. If we initiate military action now after 2 days of kvetching to avenge an "accident" know how will this look .

We can always covertly do things but then it will be kind of pointless. Bodycount is something that hasn't really mattered to mudslimes.

The best way to go is pressure hasina to initiate action against the perpetrator. If we had a half competent information warfare ministry, a bunch of reports or articles at world news orgs would have popped up by now.
That BSF guy was shown in the Nat Geo documentary on BSF.
 

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This is it. Amit Shah is going for the tactical option. Throughout the border India will maintain an aggressive stance, and keep them guessing. At a place and time they least expect, we will hit BGB.

BSF has a large stock of AMRs and ace marksmen. Ideally the unit mates of the BSF martyr will be given the opportunity to take revenge.

After the revenge Amit Shah will dial his Bangladeshi counterpart to talk peace. This is his MO.
If doing their routine job is the tactical option then i greatly worry about the security of this country.
 

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After few victories on international forum now we rely mostly on diplomatic powers. We are soft power and tit for tat reply does not suit us. That can be an example of dhimmi ideology.

Look example of Nepal and Maldives . In Maldives we got successful but only after changing their government. They told us to lift out chopper, exile our backed high persons. In Nepal we still not able to achieve what we needed. They given less constituency to lower Himalayan people which are close to us. We protested, blocked them and failed miserably

We as a giant nation never fully influenced our neighbours for longer periods. Soft power projection is not solution of everything , sometimes nation have to stand up and should do little and impactful to leave a mark.

These incidents will keep happening. We might be looking for some diplomatic channel. If Ms Hasina is so favourable to us then why BGB not understand this, are they operating on their own. They do have separate economy and source of income, and if it so then they needed a lesson. I am afraid of growing confidence of these small group (which works against their national alignment). We must leave a deep mark which should be remembered for ages
 

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BC Bangladeshi ab hamare jawano ko maarne ka baad celebrate kr rhe hai or yeh FIR likwa rha hai in bc Bangladeshi ka visa band kro
I read it too, their propaganda poster of "we don't serve tea". These Muslims don't want development and jobs, they have thirst for blood and violence. Seems like lungis are bored of consistent GDP growth and peace. They are asking for bankruptcy and failed state like Pakistan.

Well we can't be an obstacle to their dreams. RSS and BJP aren't pushing for akhand Bharat like these Muslims are pushing for.

Lungis should be ready to spread their legs. Their nagin dance may come to rude halt sooner. Plus this will ease job of NRC and halt corruption at border.
 

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After few victories on international forum now we rely mostly on diplomatic powers. We are soft power and tit for tat reply does not suit us. That can be an example of dhimmi ideology.

Look example of Nepal and Maldives . In Maldives we got successful but only after changing their government. They told us to lift out chopper, exile our backed high persons. In Nepal we still not able to achieve what we needed. They given less constituency to lower Himalayan people which are close to us. We protested, blocked them and failed miserably

We as a giant nation never fully influenced our neighbours for longer periods. Soft power projection is not solution of everything , sometimes nation have to stand up and should do little and impactful to leave a mark.

These incidents will keep happening. We might be looking for some diplomatic channel. If Ms Hasina is so favourable to us then why BGB not understand this, are they operating on their own. They do have separate economy and source of income, and if it so then they needed a lesson. I am afraid of growing confidence of these small group (which works against their national alignment). We must leave a deep mark which should be remembered for ages
Our neighbors were in romance with Chinese and now they are realizing China is one beautiful, gorgeous woman with aids.

China will give pleasure initially but eat up the host nation later.

Lungis aren't fan of Chinese either because of rohingayas crisis and ulghar Muslims issue. They are trying to become ummah chumma ideal Muslims and they will hate us for not being Muslim if not for anything else.
 

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I read it too, their propaganda poster of "we don't serve tea". These Muslims don't want development and jobs, they have thirst for blood and violence. Seems like lungis are bored of consistent GDP growth and peace. They are asking for bankruptcy and failed state like Pakistan.

Well we can't be an obstacle to their dreams. RSS and BJP aren't pushing for akhand Bharat like these Muslims are pushing for.

Lungis should be ready to spread their legs. Their nagin dance may come to rude halt sooner. Plus this will ease job of NRC and halt corruption at border.
We have to deal with them on a language they understand ... Few BGB kills will bring them down to earth ...

I pray that BSF be given free hand for a calibrated and sustained reply ...
 

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