Railway may scrap GE’s diesel locomotive plant in Bihar

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New Delhi: Indian Railways plans to scrap the upcoming diesel locomotive manufacturing unit in Marhaura, Bihar, but it won’t be easy.
The national carrier may require cabinet approval to do so and might need to pay damages to the company involved—US giant General Electric Co. (GE).
A senior railway ministry official said on condition of anonymity that “anything that has been approved by the Cabinet can be modified or terminated only after the proposal is taken back to the cabinet committee”. This person added that in the case of a “big project such as this the company can also seek payment.”
He added that the bigger problem is the timing of the decision as the company plans to deliver the first locomotive to the railways by January-February 2018 and the first imported locomotive is about to reach Indian shores by the first week of October.
Railway board chairman Ashwani Lohani said: “We are still analysing the project and no decision has been taken yet.”
The situation arose after the new railway minister Piyush Goyal, during a meeting on 7 September, asked the national carrier to review the GE project as Indian Railways plans to go for complete electrification by 2022. However, neither the minister nor railway ministry officials are ready to comment on the move.
In January 2014, when the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) was in power, the Cabinet gave its approval for setting up an electric locomotive factory at Madhepura, Bihar and a diesel locomotive factory at Marhaura at an estimated cost of Rs1,293.57 crore and Rs2,052.58 crore, respectively, with limited equity contribution by the ministry of railways. As per plans, over a 10-year period, the factories will provide Indian Railways with 800 electric locomotives of 12,000 horsepower (hp) each and a mix of 1,000 diesel locomotives of 4,500 and 6,000 hp with high level performance guarantees.
GE, in a statement on Tuesday, said that if the “Ministry of Railways moves forward with changes to the joint venture between Indian Railways and GE, they will undermine one of the most promising infrastructure projects in the country and put future foreign investment at risk. An alteration of this contract will have serious impact on job creation and skills development and cause the government to incur substantial costs. This will also undermine the government’s signature ‘Make in India’ initiative.”
The company said that the project is on track and the first locomotive has been shipped from the US. “The construction of our factory in Marhaura, Bihar and maintenance shed in Roza, Uttar Pradesh are well underway and expected to be completed on time. We expect the partnership to move forward and the company continues to fully execute towards the plan.”
 

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As per the exit clause, we'll have to pay Rs 1,300 crore to the company and we'll also lose equity in the project,” a top railway official told ET. “It's not a huge amount given that the savings on account of 100% electrification would be Rs 8,000 crore a year. However, we have no intention of terminating the project and have already offered GE to use the same facility to manufacture either electric locos among many other options.”
 

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Bad proposal!!!

Remember the Enron trouble when India tried to wriggle out of contract from Enron. That may be the case here one more time. Also remember that GE was one of the contractor together with Enron in nineties for building a power plant. Trouble lasted ten years and still it'd production arm and distribution still has $2 billion debt which came with the construction.

Think carefully Mr. Modi
 

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Bad proposal!!!

Remember the Enron trouble when India tried to wriggle out of contract from Enron. That may be the case here one more time. Also remember that GE was one of the contractor together with Enron in nineties for building a power plant. Trouble lasted ten years and still it'd production arm and distribution still has $2 billion debt which came with the construction.

Think carefully Mr. Modi
See, savings of forex by not using diesel is far higher than otherwise. It is better to scrap diesel engine while using the same plant for electric locomotive. Nothing can be worse than being unnecessarily dependent on foreign country
 

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Bad proposal!!!

Remember the Enron trouble when India tried to wriggle out of contract from Enron. That may be the case here one more time. Also remember that GE was one of the contractor together with Enron in nineties for building a power plant. Trouble lasted ten years and still it'd production arm and distribution still has $2 billion debt which came with the construction.

Think carefully Mr. Modi
Times have change. First govt is working with GE for an optimum solution . But even if contract is broken GE will have to swallow the bitter pill. It can not antagonize Indian government. Modi is here till 2024 at least. India is too big and too important market for GE to put at risk.

GE needs India not the other way around.
 

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Times have change. First govt is working with GE for an optimum solution . But even if contract is broken GE will have to swallow the bitter pill. It can not antagonize Indian government. Modi is here till 2024 at least. India is too big and too important market for GE to put at risk.

GE needs India not the other way around.
We must never create an atmosphere of uncertainty to investors. We can scrap it but after paying certain compensation and asking them to modify it to run on electricity. Some concessions have to be given without which FDI will be scared of India. Mature behaviour is needed
 

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We must never create an atmosphere of uncertainty to investors. We can scrap it but after paying certain compensation and asking them to modify it to run on electricity. Some concessions have to be given without which FDI will be scared of India. Mature behaviour is needed
That is exactly what govt is doing . You should read things properly first before jumping to conclusions.
 

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We must never create an atmosphere of uncertainty to investors. We can scrap it but after paying certain compensation and asking them to modify it to run on electricity. Some concessions have to be given without which FDI will be scared of India. Mature behaviour is needed
Best advice so far.

GE is very influential. Like Enron, they lobby and undermine any other investment coming to India. Uncertainty is always the worst enemy.
 

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See, savings of forex by not using diesel is far higher than otherwise. It is better to scrap diesel engine while using the same plant for electric locomotive. Nothing can be worse than being unnecessarily dependent on foreign country

Diesel is going to be around for transportation for next many decades. Electricity is short supply. First the power plant has be built and then transmission costs.

No diesel is going to around in one form or the other.
 

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We must never create an atmosphere of uncertainty to investors. We can scrap it but after paying certain compensation and asking them to modify it to run on electricity. Some concessions have to be given without which FDI will be scared of India. Mature behaviour is needed
While railway minister Piyush Goyal has declined to comment on media reports, sources said the railways have told GE that even if it doesn't have the capability to manufacture electric locos, it can get the technology or do it in a joint venture with another company to meet demand.

The railways has also offered GE the option of setting up a locomotive maintenance shed. GE, however, is going ahead with its plans to make its locomotives in India.

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The more we kill the dependence on Wahabi oil the more effectively we can counter wahabis.
 

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the contrect was awarded in 2015 by the present govt....

what suddenlly changed in just 2 years ??
They suddenly realised they have plenty of P4/G4 locos assembled by DLW Varanasi, and with rapid electrification, need more electric locos. CLW in Chittranjan WB has a huge backlog of WAP7 and WAG9 locos based on a Swiss ABB platform.

I'm just happy that they killed the ALCO-derived WDM3-series locos for good.
 

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