Quadrilateral security dialogue (QUAD) - Resurrected!! News and Updates

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me personally have no expectations from quad. with so much modi phobia and India phobia in Washington DC, it will always bound to be one step forward and two steps backward.
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There is no phobia per se in relations, it, s all optics IMO. Fact remains that 🇺🇸 US alone cannot control China.. They need us more than we need US. More over with recent uttering of CCP, nuking Japan et all.. . Will have alarm bells ringing in WH.... Taiwan need to be protected too...
 

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There is no phobia per se in relations, it, s all optics IMO. Fact remains that 🇺🇸 US alone cannot control China.. They need us more than we need US. More over with recent uttering of CCP, nuking Japan et all.. . Will have alarm bells ringing in WH.... Taiwan need to be protected too...
I’ll put it this way, the pro-China lobby in US & Washington is more powerful and resourceful than QUAD lobby.

both their coasts east and west, has made a lot of money on China in past 30 years. they also control the global public opinion via MSM & SM. resistance to quad is bound to be immense.

As I keep saying, US foreign policy is not one monolithic entity. It is a amalgamation of interest groups, which ever interest group prevails at that point in time that version of foreign policy will prevail.

GoI cannot match the lobbying power of pro China interest group in US.

Not saying quad chapter is closed, I’m saying quad progress will be slow.
 

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That could be one reason why CIA and a few western agencies are coming up with many flavors or political unrest in India..from CAA protest to Pegasus to put this current Indian administration in jeopardy.
India being a IT powerhouse along with majority of Indians in Big Tech companies couldn't make its own snooping software.

This is ought to happen when you rely on foreign tech. So much for "AatmaNirbharta" gimmick.
 

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I’ll put it this way, the pro-China lobby in US & Washington is more powerful and resourceful than QUAD lobby.

both their coasts east and west, has made a lot of money on China in past 30 years. they also control the global public opinion via MSM & SM. resistance to quad is bound to be immense.

As I keep saying, US foreign policy is not one monolithic entity. It is a amalgamation of interest groups, which ever interest group prevails at that point in time that version of foreign policy will prevail.

GoI cannot match the lobbying power of pro China interest group in US.

Not saying quad chapter is closed, I’m saying quad progress will be slow.
Public Opinions do not matter to govt's . they do whats they need to do & whats in overall interest of the nation.

China might have a say in capitol hills and big funded lobby groups, but they are seen with suspicion universally while indian lobby groups are no pushover. What works in our favor is that we are seen as reliable & trusted people in US govt circles. One thing trump administration did right was that they seeped that chinese suspicion in every official.

There is a reason why chinese companies are facing renewed resistance in USA while indians continue to head many big tech companies...

Again, QUAD might face headwinds in media / SM but that's about it. Govt's rarely listen to what media / SM had to say .......
 

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Public Opinions do not matter to govt's . they do whats they need to do & whats in overall interest of the nation.

China might have a say in capitol hills and big funded lobby groups, but they are seen with suspicion universally while indian lobby groups are no pushover. What works in our favor is that we are seen as reliable & trusted people in US govt circles. One thing trump administration did right was that they seeped that chinese suspicion in every official.

There is a reason why chinese companies are facing renewed resistance in USA while indians continue to head many big tech companies...

Again, QUAD might face headwinds in media / SM but that's about it. Govt's rarely listen to what media / SM had to say .......
Indian lobbies in US ARE a pushover. they have done nothing to alter perceptions about India in US even in last 6-7 years, except for organising events like howdy modi and madison square garden.

except for ensuring sunanda vashist's participation in Tom Lantos hearing on Kashmir issue few years back.
 

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Indian lobbies in US ARE a pushover. they have done nothing to alter perceptions about India in US even in last 6-7 years, except for organising events like howdy modi and madison square garden.

except for ensuring sunanda vashist's participation in Tom Lantos hearing on Kashmir issue few years back.
Let us see Monsieur . US seeing india as counter to china itself shows the success of various lobby group in my opinion , Not to forget the active role played by them in various deals so far... Perhaps, they don,t advertise or show off much ....
 

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See the channel by ex cia folks and how the usa sees india(enemy and nonchristian)and the rest of the world.
https://youtube.com/user/CommMediaHub
Here is cynthia ritchie a paid video analyst from usa hired by isi to woo american aka lobbying.
perhaps a more nuanced way to read this is by saying, not that entire USA is against India but rather there are still powerful lobbies within US that believe in this.

future is yet to be written in stone and it can be changed by creating a powerful lobby of our own, only question is whether it will happen in our lifetimes.
 

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Christian lobby
Marxist lobby
Islamist lobby
Cold War lobby
European lobby
UK lobby
Commonwealth lobby

The list is long .. :hehe:

Let them play their games, we just need to build ourselves first. Everything else will fall in place. Insha Ganesha !!!
It's almost a fun game to guess the lobby the person belongs to when such statements come.
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US Representative Mark Green says India's close strategic ties with Russia, is a threat to the burgeoning defense relationship between USA and India. Congressman Mark Green is a member of US House Armed Services (Defence) Committee.
 

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Pravin Sawhney is extremely biased against Quad:

Looks like CCP shrill/bot Parvin Chowmeenhei wants India to be a vassal to China.

I was under the impression that the distributed neural algorithmic network AI centric haptic deployment of communist gundass in Ladakh/other sectors were supposed to stop the Quad adventure by India. What happened Chowmeenhei?

Don't you want India to act according to her best interests?
 

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perhaps a more nuanced way to read this is by saying, not that entire USA is against India but rather there are still powerful lobbies within US that believe in this.

future is yet to be written in stone and it can be changed by creating a powerful lobby of our own, only question is whether it will happen in our lifetimes.
Hmmmm
 

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