Project P15B Visakhapatnam class destroyer

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we hv total 7 kolkata+vishakhapatnam class destroyers in 7000-8000 ton displacement. although their is dispute that its VLS number cant be increased beyond 48 (32 barak 8 nd 16 brahmos), but i think even if we cant increase VLS number, these destroyer hv large empty space, where we can equip surface batteries easily. if this possible we can add light sams nd antiship missile, like 16 VLSRAM (30 km range) nd 8-16 upcoming NASM- MR (150 km) or isreali sea breaker (300 km) can be fitted. our 13000 ton displacement project 18 cruisers will only come in navy hand near 2035. so we should build 3 more vishakhapatnam class with modification (more VLS, 120mm guns etc) , so there number reach 10 till 2032. older delhi etc class destroyers r mediocre in capabilities.
 

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we hv total 7 kolkata+vishakhapatnam class destroyers in 7000-8000 ton displacement. although their is dispute that its VLS number cant be increased beyond 48 (32 barak 8 nd 16 brahmos), but i think even if we cant increase VLS number, these destroyer hv large empty space, where we can equip surface batteries easily. if this possible we can add light sams nd antiship missile, like 16 VLSRAM (30 km range) nd 8-16 upcoming NASM- MR (150 km) or isreali sea breaker (300 km) can be fitted. our 13000 ton displacement project 18 cruisers will only come in navy hand near 2035. so we should build 3 more vishakhapatnam class with modification (more VLS, 120mm guns etc) , so there number reach 10 till 2032. older delhi etc class destroyers r mediocre in capabilities.
It doesn't have empty spaces bro
Don't go through these sm analysts they have no other work than causing hypes for following
They are filled with necessary resources u just can't have empty tin boxes right
That's how it has been designed max vlsrsam will be added as the provision was kept during design phase if I am not wrong
 

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It doesn't have empty spaces bro
Don't go through these sm analysts they have no other work than causing hypes for following
They are filled with necessary resources u just can't have empty tin boxes right
That's how it has been designed max vlsrsam will be added as the provision was kept during design phase if I am not wrong
watch space near VLS sells.

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watch space near VLS sells.

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That doesn't prove that those spaces are empty
They have necessary equipments on that place wrt range and capability
Ships aren't designed like that they are built on the purpose which Navy asked they just don't leave spaces for increasing tonnage
Yeah it's underarm according to me but no changes can be made
 

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That doesn't prove that those spaces are empty
They have necessary equipments on that place wrt range and capability
Ships aren't designed like that they are built on the purpose which Navy asked they just don't leave spaces for increasing tonnage
Yeah it's underarm according to me but no changes can be made
bhai ek kaam krte hai...hum dono chalte hai. vaha pe jo empty space hai, vaha pe "khatiya" laga ke dekhte hai. agr lag gaya to smjhna vaha pe surface launcher lag sakte hai, nhi laga to aapki baat pakki.😝🤭
 

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That doesn't prove that those spaces are empty
They have necessary equipments on that place wrt range and capability
Ships aren't designed like that they are built on the purpose which Navy asked they just don't leave spaces for increasing tonnage
Yeah it's underarm according to me but no changes can be made
upar pic me dekhiye two 4 cell torpedo tubes kitna space gher raha. yeah agr hum additional space pe missile launcher lagayenge to usse may be stealth nd range se compromise krna padega. but vo hume additional firepower bhi dega.
 

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bhai ek kaam krte hai...hum dono chalte hai. vaha pe jo empty space hai, vaha pe "khatiya" laga ke dekhte hai. agr lag gaya to smjhna vaha pe surface launcher lag sakte hai, nhi laga to aapki baat pakki.😝🤭
Good joke but seriously design organizations have their mandate written by navy for tehur requirements and dnd makes it even after kolkata they had same weapon requirements and I am not able to understand why do they want to keep it underarm
I may not be educated enough for those sitting in dnd but I feel it's under armed and could be better designed for necessary equipments and additional weapons
 

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upar pic me dekhiye two 4 cell torpedo tubes kitna space gher raha.
Main kya bol raha hun bro
Woh apko dikh raha ki space bahut hai but under ka mamla yeh nahi hai waha pe necessary equipments aur loads hai ese koi jagah khali nahi hota
Even app real ship photos likalenge toh apko bahut space lagega par under waha bhi jagah nahi hai
 

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Main kya bol raha hun bro
Woh apko dikh raha ki space bahut hai but under ka mamla yeh nahi hai waha pe necessary equipments aur loads hai ese koi jagah khali nahi hota
Even app real ship photos likalenge toh apko bahut space lagega par under waha bhi jagah nahi hai
bhai raat ko us space me sailer nd officer etc...dholak etc le ke dance nd party krte honge. desi logo ko raat me party krne ka shauk to hota hi hai🤭. vrna or koi equipment to dikh nhi raha pe.
 

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Empty space se kya hota hai?? Do you not understand concept of displacement ??
empty space pe aap missile batteries nd launchers laga sakte hai...yes usse weight badega. range nd stealth bhi ghatega. baaki mujhe koi problem nhi dikhta.
 

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bhai raat ko us space me sailer nd officer etc...dholak etc le ke dance nd party krte honge. desi logo ko raat me party krne ka shauk to hota hi hai🤭. vrna or koi equipment to dikh nhi raha pe.
Bhai saab app under gaye hai
Apko kya malum hai ki waha pe kya hai
Mai jo bol raha hun woh generally designers karte hai AFAIK
 

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Bhai saab app under gaye hai
Apko kya malum hai ki waha pe kya hai
Mai jo bol raha hun woh generally designers karte hai AFAIK
i understand, ki andar space nhi ho sakta hai. but surface pe to hum missile batteries nd launcher fit kr sakte hai. jese SAAR 6 etc me hai.
 

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empty space pe aap missile batteries nd launchers laga sakte hai...yes usse weight badega. range nd stealth bhi ghatega. baaki mujhe koi problem nhi dikhta.
Are baba its not designed for it bro
It has necessary equipments compartments and controlling resources very critical things have been placed
It's not like khali jagah dekhi launcher gad diya
Also to keep launcher u need related equipments to be placed which it doesn't contain
It's not only about your range or stealth
 

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.yes usse weight badega.
Chalo itna to samjhe

i understand, ki andar space nhi ho sakta hai. but surface pe to hum missile batteries nd launcher fit kr sakte hai. jese SAAR 6 etc me hai.
Are andar bahr ki baat nahi hai abhi to tumhe bataya displacement naam ki bhi cheez hoti hai.

Jaise Aircraft ka MTOW hota hai. Vaise hi ships ka displacement hota hai.

I think we lack good replenishment ships, so these offensive vessels are designed to carry more fuel, food and water for longer endurance.
 

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If Navy adds another 8x Anti ship VLS on P15A/B, it'd be Nirbhay/ITCM.
what ?? may be you mean - If Navy adds another 8 VLS on P15A/B, it'd be Nirbhay/ITCM.
Totally right- i agree.
Also it require small redesign both to the structure & c&c, fire control etc.
Its is possible to add more vls modules into P15/A, but its require redesign of ship.
[Russian converted a hybrid vtol ac into normal stobar ac & chinese adding vls into old ships.]
 

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what ?? may be you mean - If Navy adds another 8 VLS on P15A/B, it'd be Nirbhay/ITCM.
Totally right- i agree.
Also it require small redesign both to the structure & c&c, fire control etc.
Its is possible to add more vls modules into P15/A, but its require redesign of ship.
[Russian converted a hybrid vtol ac into normal stobar ac & chinese adding vls into old ships.]
Nirbhay is half the weight of Brahmos, 2 meters shorter. An 8x cell can be added during MLU.
 

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