Project-75I class SSK Submarines

[BON PLAN]

Hope it's true.

Good news, but a black hole between the end of P75 and the beinning of P75I in Mazagon dock !
=> Lack of know how, lack of skilled workers. So sad. But so common in India. A shame.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Why not build a new improved scorpene class ?
As follow up , anyway mazgaon dockyard is full .
Infact no indian naval shipyard is empty right now.

 

[BON PLAN]

Why not build a new improved scorpene class ?
As follow up , anyway mazgaon dockyard is full .
Infact no indian naval shipyard is empty right now.

Even then, with the long lead time items, there will be a hole in the planning.
Too late...

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Even then, with the long lead time items, there will be a hole in the planning.
Too late...

It will be again after 15 years when first p 75i subamarine rolls out

 

[SavageKing456]

Why can't we absorb the technical expertise with these projects?
It's always the same situation.

 

[Lonewolf]

It will be again after 15 years when first p 75i subamarine rolls out

Which is planned for 2027 induction .


@BON PLAN the p 75 will be retrofitted with drdo aip for some time ,so almost count that downtime , and a few small modifications if included will increase our work time ,hope by then pre construction activity and actual keel laying takes place

 

[Lonewolf]

Why can't be absorb the technical expertise with these projects?
It's always the same situation.

Depends on how was it conceived , was the tot was with shipyard or naval design beuraeu

 

[BON PLAN]

Why can't we absorb the technical expertise with these projects?
It's always the same situation.

Because there is no long term commitment. No follow on projects so as to keep the know how intact.
It's probably the main indian problem, with bureaucraty. The two are may be linked.

 

[BON PLAN]

Which is planned for 2027 induction .


@BON PLAN the p 75 will be retrofitted with drdo aip for some time ,so almost count that downtime , and a few small modifications if included will increase our work time ,hope by then pre construction activity and actual keel laying takes place

Indeed. It may help.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Because there is no long term commitment. No follow on projects so as to keep the know how intact.
It's probably the main indian problem, with bureaucraty. The two are may be linked.

Who builds military submarines continuously ?
French do it , because they are a respectable weapons manufacturer and have experience in this field .
India cannot keep these lines engaged continuously.

 

[Lonewolf]

Who builds military submarines continuously ?
French do it , because they are a respectable weapons manufacturer and have experience in this field .
India cannot keep these lines engaged continuously.

For previous decades nope ,but this is our turn point and if we don't cash on this opportunity we would hace to import for much longer , we have a more diversified economy and more growth potential , so commiting to long term plans now for indigenization is a good start now

 

[BON PLAN]

Who builds military submarines continuously ?
French do it , because they are a respectable weapons manufacturer and have experience in this field .
India cannot keep these lines engaged continuously.

so sharing in two the P75I is not a nice solution !

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

so sharing in two the P75I is not a nice solution !

I don't know what you are saying, I only know the indian navy should chooSe the scorpene class with any improvement they Desire as follow up p 75i class.

 

[BON PLAN]

I don't know what you are saying, I only know the indian navy should chooSe the scorpene class with any improvement they Desire as follow up p 75i class.

Sharing the production between two docks will reduce the delivery time (nice for navy) but also reduce the production time so a more important black hole time before next program.

 

[Lost user]

Who builds military submarines continuously ?
French do it , because they are a respectable weapons manufacturer and have experience in this field .
India cannot keep these lines engaged continuously.

Why not.. we are short on submarines.. we must ensure that no substantial gap exists between successive iterations.. and retain the talent and know how..

 

[Lost user]

Sharing the production between two docks will reduce the delivery time (nice for navy) but also reduce the production time so a more important black hole time before next program.

Unless.. Indian economy grows enough to order more submarines.. and keep both shipyards busy..

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Sharing the production between two docks will reduce the delivery time (nice for navy) but also reduce the production time so a more important black hole time before next program.

One dock is mazgaon, another one is vizag.
In india only these two dockyards have the capability to manufacture submarines.
Vizag is building arihant class nuke submarines so only mazgaon is idle as far as submarines are concerned.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Why not.. we are short on submarines.. we must ensure that no substantial gap exists between successive iterations.. and retain the talent and know how..

Tell that the ministry , navy should have got atleast 12 scorpenes and then 6 p75i follow on.

 

[FactsPlease]

A good strategic thinking, streamlined planning, and most of all commitment to succeed, finally plus excellent PM will solve this. Japan had been doing this for a long time (the thing India need to learn, instead just technology).

In the end, India should get a submarine fleet even larger than JDF. If Japan had been doing this successfully ever since post-WW2, I don't see why India can not.
- IMO, the only advantages for Scorpene had been all the infrastructure we had invested, if any left and of value to us.

 

[SavageKing456]

P75i update