Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

[SilentlAssassin265]

Why are this ships not carrying additional smaller missiles like kalibr or exocet missile.
8 missile seems very less

 

[SUPERPOWER]

Why are this ships not carrying additional smaller missiles like kalibr or exocet missile.
8 missile seems very less

Do you think they will disclose us what they are carrying.

 

[jai jaganath]

Do you think they will disclose us what they are carrying.

What
It's official about what they carry
8 bhramos and 32 barak-8 pathetically
Nothing else

 

[Marliii]

What
It's official about what they carry
8 bhramos and 32 barak-8 pathetically
Nothing else

How is it pathetic ? It's still 8 Brahmos and 32 braraks it may be not the 108 vls monster like what west uses but atleast it will not swim with the fishes like armed to the brim "Moskva"

 

[SUPERPOWER]

What
It's official about what they carry
8 bhramos and 32 barak-8 pathetically
Nothing else

You are very Optimistic.

 

[jai jaganath]

How is it pathetic ? It's still 8 Brahmos and 32 braraks it may be not the 108 vls monster like what west uses but atleast it will not swim with the fishes like armed to the brim "Moskva"

8 bhramos seriously sir
The entire ship can participate in first wave that's it after that 7000 tonnes frigate is useless

 

[jai jaganath]

You are very Optimistic.

What optimism bro
It's fact it has 8 bhramos and 32 barak-8
No Kalibr no harpoon no more bhramos no nirbhay
That's it

 

[Marliii]

8 bhramos seriously sir
The entire ship can participate in first wave that's it after that 7000 tonnes frigate is useless

How the fuck would be it useless ? It would still be able to to form an airdefence umbrella over a large area and can protect ships near to it.

 

[jai jaganath]

How the fuck would be it useless ? It would still be able to to form an airdefence umbrella over a large area and can protect ships near to it.

So we r building a 7k tonnes of warship to provide airdefence that too with 32 sams to protect itself along with fleet

 

[binayak95]

@jai jaganath study fleet defense and intercept kill chain before making grandiose claims about uselessness of P17As. They are perfectly adequate for their intended role in the IN, and will never be operating alone in a combat group.

All youre doing is revealing your ignorance here

 

[blackleaf]

@jai jaganath study fleet defense and intercept kill chain before making grandiose claims about uselessness of P17As. They are perfectly adequate for their intended role in the IN, and will never be operating alone in a combat group.

All youre doing is revealing your ignorance here

The 32 LRSAM is a bit less considering how many missiles other ships of comparable size carry. It would be good if 32 VL-SRSAMs could also be added to some of the IN ships that currently only have LRSAM.

The Brahamos are perfectly adequate. They weight much more than most anti-ship missiles so 8 or 16 Brahamos is a lot.

I'm also not that disappointed with the order for 4 more Talwar. Having a force of 10 second rate frigates to deploy in the regions isn't a ibad idea. Hopefully the class can be upgraded with VLS Shtil or even VL_SRSAM.
Upgraded Talwars won't be as capable as the P-17s but they would still be better than most of the ships that Pakistan could deploy.
The P-17 will be the tip of the spear where frigates are concerned but having 10 less capable frigated to make up numbers isn't bad.

 

[binayak95]

The 32 LRSAM is a bit less considering how many missiles other ships of comparable size carry. It would be good if 32 VL-SRSAMs could also be added to some of the IN ships that currently only have LRSAM.

The Brahamos are perfectly adequate. They weight much more than most anti-ship missiles so 8 or 16 Brahamos is a lot.

I'm also not that disappointed with the order for 4 more Talwar. Having a force of 10 second rate frigates to deploy in the regions isn't a ibad idea. Hopefully the class can be upgraded with VLS Shtil or even VL_SRSAM.
Upgraded Talwars won't be as capable as the P-17s but they would still be better than most of the ships that Pakistan could deploy.
The P-17 will be the tip of the spear where frigates are concerned but having 10 less capable frigated to make up numbers isn't bad.

Exactly, the Nilgiris, Kolkatas and Vizags have a tonne of space left - all to take in future upgrades that the IN is anticipating. USV/UAV bays, new missiles, new Defensive systems. It makes sense not to go for everything right now and then 5 years hence have new tech you want to integrate but no space left.

 

[Super falcon]

Plz can one post nilghiri mock up design

 

[Super Flanker]

Plz can one post nilghiri mock up design

I think so that you want to know what Nilgiri class frigates look like.

1. Here is a mock-up model of a Nilgiri class frigate.

2. Here is an artistic render of Nilgiri class frigate (the time when the first ship of this class was launched).

 

[Super falcon]

I think so that you want to know what Nilgiri class frigates look like.

1. Here is a mock-up model of a Nilgiri class frigate.
View attachment 188148

2. Here is an artistic render of Nilgiri class frigate (the time when the first ship of this class was launched).View attachment 188150

Bro any idea on integration of weapons

 

[Super Flanker]

Bro any idea on integration of weapons

I think you are are asking about what weopons can be carried by these frigates. Nilgiri class frigates have various types of armaments depending on the type of role.
1. For anti-air role, there are 4×8 cells for 32 Barak 8ER.
2. For anti-surface role, there are 8 cells for Brahmos.
3. For anti-submarine warfare, there are 2 torpedo launchers (triple tube) for Varunashtra torpedoes and 2 RBU-6000 launchers.

It has a 76mm OTO Melara main gun and two Ak-630M CIWS.

 

[Super falcon]

I think you are are asking about what weopons can be carried by these frigates. Nilgiri class frigates have various types of armaments depending on the type of role.
1. For anti-air role, there are 4×8 cells for 32 Barak 8ER.
2. For anti-surface role, there are 8 cells for Brahmos.
3. For anti-submarine warfare, there are 2 torpedo launchers (triple tube) for Varunashtra torpedoes and 2 RBU-6000 launchers.

It has a 76mm OTO Melara main gun and two Ak-630M CIWS.

Don't you think integrating Barak 8 on all Indian vessels will make job easier for china and pak they just has to find how to defeat Barak 8 rather than multiple types of Air defences which will make job harder

India has CAMM ER why not they are being used

 

[flanker99]

Don't you think integrating Barak 8 on all Indian vessels will make job easier for china and pak they just has to find how to defeat Barak 8 rather than multiple types of Air defences which will make job harder

India has CAMM ER why not they are being used

Ok lets talk after u have a counter to barak8 also we don't have camm er

 

[SilentlAssassin265]

Ok lets talk after u have a counter to barak8 also we don't have camm er

Smaller ships are using vl srsam

 

[Super Flanker]

Don't you think integrating Barak 8 on all Indian vessels will make job easier for china and pak they just has to find how to defeat Barak 8 rather than multiple types of Air defences which will make job harder

This is a very dumb argument by you, and this same argument can be used for pretty much every weopon system present in the world.
1. For example, the USAF uses hundreds of F-16s, F-15s, F-35s, F-22s, so all the enemy needs to do is simply find the weakness of F-22, F-35, F-16s etc then automatically it will be very easy to defeat them.
2. Another example, the RuAF uses of hundreds of Flankers (that is Su-30, Su-35, Su-27 etc) so easily someone will find the weakness of these planes and therefore it will be very easy to counter them.

Like I said, and am saying again - DUMB ARGUMENT AND DUMBER LOGIC.

India has CAMM ER why not they are being used

This is actually totally false, India does not use CAMM or any missile of this family, It used only by UK, Chile, New Zealand, and Poland.