Persian, Urdu, English or Arabic language in Pakistan?

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So please , other nations with id crisis but with the same difinition of id crisis you used on pakistan n korea. And while you at it , please name as many you can , it will be easier for me to understand.
Come on now, be a sport, will you stop mating with your goat? It is a simple question, much less loaded than yours.

As far as making it easier for you to understand, there is a limit to the effort I am willing put into easing your comprehension. If examples of three countries are not enough for you then I doubt any more will help. Perhaps re-reading the posts slowly and reading all the refereed documents will shed some light.
 

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Come on now, be a sport, will you stop mating with your goat? It is a simple question, much less loaded than yours.

As far as making it easier for you to understand, there is a limit to the effort I am willing put into easing your comprehension. If examples of three countries are not enough for you then I doubt any more will help. Perhaps re-reading the posts slowly and reading all the refereed documents will shed some light.
east germany dont count , because i only want current countries.
So you have given me two examples

And i promise you it would be my last request.
Name as many as you can.
But when you name them, also tell me where their hatred are pointed at.
 

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east germany dont count , because i only want current countries.
Why difference does it make to the argument if the country is 'current' or not? It has absolutely no bearing on the argument. Next you will ask countries in the southern hemisphere only etc. Ridiculous.

So you have given me two examples
Three. E Germany. N Kor and Pakistan. You cant deny a valid example arbitrarily just because it doesn't suit you.

And i promise you it would be my last request.
Name as many as you can.
But when you name them, also tell me where their hatred are pointed at.
Really? You promise? I am sure that counts for a lot. I am sure that if I give more examples you will drag the debate into a quagmire and derail it again by arguing about those countries.

If you want to discuss other countries then start a new thread to talk about crises in other countries, I will surely oblige you, I promise. This thread is however is for Pakistan.
 

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Why difference does it make to the argument if the country is 'current' or not? It has absolutely no bearing on the argument. Next you will ask countries in the southern hemisphere only etc. Ridiculous.



Three. E Germany. N Kor and Pakistan. You cant deny a valid example arbitrarily just because it doesn't suit you.



Really? You promise? I am sure that counts for a lot. I am sure that if I give more examples you will drag the debate into a quagmire and derail it again by arguing about those countries.

If you want to discuss other countries then start a new thread to talk about crises in other countries, I will surely oblige you, I promise. This thread is however is for Pakistan.
But its the first time i promise something
I am telling you i am not going to discuss it any further.
You can be calm.

Forget if its relevant or not. Its my last request. You have my word.
 

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But its the first time i promise something
I am telling you i am not going to discuss it any further.
You can be calm.

Forget if its relevant or not. Its my last request. You have my word.
So you expect me to answer your question even if it is irrelevant? That says much about how the debating has been shaping.

How about you answering my goat question in return for another example? I give MY word, if you answer the goat question in 'yes' or 'no' I will give you more examples.
 

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So you expect me to answer your question even if it is irrelevant? That says much about how the debating has been shaping.

How about you answering my goat question in return for another example? I give MY word, if you answer the goat question in 'yes' or 'no' I will give you more examples.
If you dont want to be serious then just go
For your information i was really interested in the question i asked, it was not because i wanted to irritate you.
Go ahead make fun of it.
 

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If you dont want to be serious then just go
For your information i was really interested in the question i asked, it was not because i wanted to irritate you.
Go ahead make fun of it.
I have been pretty serious throughout, but if you continue to indulge in ad hominems or such behavior you can expect such replies.

Anyway, Israel\Palestine. That's a good example.
 

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I have been pretty serious throughout, but if you continue to indulge in ad hominems or such behavior you can expect such replies.

Anyway, Israel\Palestine. That's a good example.
And which one has the crises.
 

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Palestine right
I was expecting that since you assume that anyone critical of Pakistan would automatically be biased when it comes to the Israel\Palestine issue.

My answer is both. Both countries (and I use the word loosely here) derive their identity (loosely as well) from different, albeit equally irrational, sources.

Biblical justification and hawkish policies of the Israelis is as destabilizing as the excessive hatred that is being injected in the Arabs. You have probably watched the three year old Arab girl spewing venom on Jews. She is too little to understand anything of the complications of the issue, but her parents have ensured she will remain angry and bitter for the rest of her life.

In such a scenario how can one expect peace?
 

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I was expecting that since you assume that anyone critical of Pakistan would automatically be biased when it comes to the Israel\Palestine issue.

My answer is both. Both countries (and I use the word loosely here) derive their identity (loosely as well) from different, albeit equally irrational, sources.

Biblical justification and hawkish policies of the Israelis is as destabilizing as the excessive hatred that is being injected in the Arabs. You have probably watched the three year old Arab girl spewing venom on Jews. She is too little to understand anything of the complications of the issue, but her parents have ensured she will remain angry and bitter for the rest of her life.

In such a scenario how can one expect peace?
So both israel and palestine have identity crisis because of hatred towards each other.
 

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So both israel and palestine have identity crisis because of hatred towards each other.
See you are not reading my posts.

One country suffers from hatred the other from delusion and arrogance.
 

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So palestine suffers from hatred resulting in id crisis.
There is a reason I was hesitant to rush into an Israel Palestine debate. It deserves a forum of its own, not just a thread. As such I will not like to go too deep into it on this thread, as always open a new thread about Israel\Arab conflict and I will respond there.

The Palestinian identity is so dependent on hatred for the Jews, it is impossible for any concessions or a compromise solution. There won't be a solution until both sides reach a middle ground. It is very hard to reach that middle ground if hatred is endemic.

I hope that answers your question.
 

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There is a reason I was hesitant to rush into an Israel Palestine debate. It deserves a forum of its own, not just a thread. As such I will not like to go too deep into it on this thread, as always open a new thread about Israel\Arab conflict and I will respond there.

The Palestinian identity is so dependent on hatred for the Jews, it is impossible for any concessions or a compromise solution. There won't be a solution until both sides reach a middle ground. It is very hard to reach that middle ground if hatred is endemic.

I hope that answers your question.
Yeah right, without israel the palestinean would have difficulty sustaining their identity.
:rofl:
 

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Israel and Palestine issue is an unique issue.
 

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Now onwards no discussion on Israel and Palestine
 

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Now onwards no discussion on Israel and Palestine
Sorry didnt see your post before I replied.

I have no intentions of getting tangled in the Israel\arab quagmire.

Feel free to delete posts related to that issue.

i have replied directly on Fighter's profile, those wishing to take a look can see it there.
 

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I dont get you. Why are you making simple things complicated.
Is it a surprise to you that we are muslims.
Islamic culture is on our daily lives.
Pakistan is a islamic country.

I think india is multi cultural.
So india also have islamic culture.

Why should we have indian culture, we are not hindus.
I object to this comment of yours. You do not have to be Hindu to be Indian. This is something that Pakistani's tend to say very often, and it is something I find very annoying/offensive.

Just because Pakistan is an Islamic country doesn't mean India is a Hindu country. India has JUST as many Muslims as Pakistan, if not more.

You don't have to be Hindu to have Indian culture. You can be Hindu, Sikh, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, etc. After all, we are a secular country.


I am a Muslim, and an Indian with Indian culture.
 

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