Pentagon planning to send US military aircraft, Navy ships near China

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I'm done with your pirated history. like it or not just mark my words on new balance, or dream on freeloading as US protege or first shoot in the world of might-is-right!



now u @Oblaks shall let off steam elsewhere. stop pestering me!

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Stop reading Chinese fairy tales and start learning real world history. You chinis exalt yourselves too much. The fact is that the world views China almost as a rougue nation. The new normal is that China will be a North Korea. Get ready for China's hard landing my Chini bit*CH. Good luck on those artificial islands. They look pretty much like sitting ducks over there. Easy targets in the event of a real war. :shoot::pound:
 

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China have only fight wars at home all time in history. My friend say that.
 

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1000 times bigger maybe true also but I speak with my friend and he say China only have wars at home all time but he say nothing if China won all fight at home last 3000 years. But today they can attack Japan, Philippines, New Zeeland and Australia. Two last are pact with United States in military.
 

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@amoy @no smoking smoking

http://www.cpf.navy.mil/news.aspx/040033

The USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) and USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76) strike groups commenced dual carrier flight operations in the Philippine Sea June 18.

The ships and aircraft assigned to both strike groups began coordinated operations in international waters demonstrating the United States unique capability to operate multiple carrier strike groups in close proximity.
 
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PHILIPPINE SEA (June 15, 2016) Two B-52 bombers assigned to the U.S. Air Force 69th Expeditionary Bomb Squadron fly over the guided-missile destroyer USS Spruance (DDG 111) following a joint-service bombing exercise at the targeting island Farallon deMedinilla, west of Guam. Spruance, along with the guided-missile destroyers USS Momsen (DDG 92) and USS Decatur (DDG 73), and embarked helicopter detachments of Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 49 are deployed in support of maritime security and stability in the Indo-Asia-Pacific as part of a U.S. 3rd Fleet Pacific Surface Action Group (PAC SAG) under Commander, Destroyer Squadron (CDS) 31. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Will Gaskill)

 

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@Oblaks Global policing is very expensive and often not worthwhile in W.Pac rim especially where risks are big vs. little gain. Ask not what Uncle can do for u, ask what u can do for Uncle. Posturing is all this is about...

House passes $576B defense spending bill
The House on Thursday passed a $576 billion defense spending bill, defying the Obama administration’s concerns that the bill would shortchange a war fund next year.

The vote was largely along party lines but easily cleared the chamber with a 282-138 margin — a stark contrast to the sinking of the Energy Department's spending bill over a fight on LGBT rights. After the energy bill debacle, similar LGBT amendments were blocked from coming to the House floor for the defense bill.

The defense appropriations bill would provide $575.7 billion for defense spending. The total is divided into $517.1 billion for base requirements and $58.6 billion for a war fund known as the Overseas Contingency Operations (OCO) account.

But of the total OCO account, $15.7 billion would be used for base requirements such as readiness, infrastructure and modernization.


That would leave war funding dry by April 2017, forcing the next president to request supplemental funding when he or she takes office if overseas operations are to continue.
 
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@Oblaks Global policing is very expensive and often not worthwhile in W.Pac rim especially where risks are big vs. little gain. Ask not what Uncle can do for u, ask what u can do for Uncle. Posturing is all this is about...

House passes $576B defense spending bill
The House on Thursday passed a $576 billion defense spending bill, defying the Obama administration’s concerns that the bill would shortchange a war fund next year.
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You don't worry about that Chini Boy. As long as China is getting money, the US is sure to have money too. And before money runs out, we make sure we got what we want and make sure you're pushed back to your proper place. Remenber China made stuff don't last long.
 

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You don't worry about that Chini Boy. As long as China is getting money, the US is sure to have money too. And before money runs out, we make sure we got what we want and make sure you're pushed back to your proper place. Remenber China made stuff don't last long.
Obviously u don't get it, except chest-thumping like "sure to have money" or "proper place".

Yes US is the sole superpower undertaking to ensure the world order in its own favour, and to protect its allies. Yet being over-stretched it had to rethink its focus and rebalance. Is it its core interest to back those useless Western Pacific buddies like the Philippines or Malaysia at its own cost? What would these so-called allies contribute to the coffer and shoulder the bills on their own? What gains after all?

In no headlong rush Uncle has to do the calculation, budgeting... meticulously, unlike those who wish to continue the freeloading. Have u seen the nuance, the 2 Carrier Strike Groups are maneuvring in the PHILIPPINE Sea, not China Seas? Such a posturing is intended to boost morale of ASEAN foot soliders but not entailing a direct confrontation in which America would fight others' war for free.

Every move of A/C groups is very costly against the backdrops of budget cut.
air defense drills, sea surveillance, replenishments at sea, defensive air combat training, long range strikes, coordinated maneuvers and other exercises.


Unlike USN, China is situated right on the west rim, and nowhere to go. Chinese can patrol routinely with new facilities on Spratlys at a wee cost like a chip off the US expenses.


Jingoism is a waste of time before basic maths is done.
 

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Obviously u don't get it, except chest-thumping like "sure to have money" or "proper place".

Yes US is the sole superpower undertaking to ensure the world order in its own favour, and to protect its allies. Yet being over-stretched it had to rethink its focus and rebalance. Is it its core interest to back those useless Western Pacific buddies like the Philippines or Malaysia at its own cost? What would these so-called allies contribute to the coffer and shoulder the bills on their own? What gains after all?

In no headlong rush Uncle has to do the calculation, budgeting... meticulously, unlike those who wish to continue the freeloading. Have u seen the nuance, the 2 Carrier Strike Groups are maneuvring in the PHILIPPINE Sea, not China Seas? Such a posturing is intended to boost morale of ASEAN foot soliders but not entailing a direct confrontation in which America would fight others' war for free.

Every move of A/C groups is very costly against the backdrops of budget cut.




Unlike USN, China is situated right on the west rim, and nowhere to go. Chinese can patrol routinely with new facilities on Spratlys at a wee cost like a chip off the US expenses.


Jingoism is a waste of time before basic maths is done.
Obviously you don't know what I'm talking about. China money comes from US money.. intertwined economies.. so don't worry about the US not having enough of it.

Yes the US polices for its own interest. ON this one, it is freedom of navigation... It is not letting China dominate this part of the world...its about getting the asian allies sympathy to achieve these...

Just because they are at the Philippine sea (Pacific) does not mean they never pass through the SCS
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/04/politics/aircraft-carrier-patrols-south-china-sea/

Those Chini islands are expensive to build and will be expensive to maintain. Aside from the fact that they can't go anywhere else they are not self sustaining. what wee price are you talking about. It is also an easy target in the event of war it can easily be taken out. You also forget that the US has bases dotted around the SCS coupled with defense agreements with asian nations.
 

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Yes interwined economies ~ now u @Oblaks get a step closer to the truth. Big guys know that deep in heart so play on the game to put up a SHOW to small guys. But never will a real face-off take place, like in Syria or Crimea. Small guys stuck in between are always the first to be scrapped or fleeced.

Now that US is buffing and puffing with drills as loud comforting messages to Asian buddies, what can be done is being done to prove freedom of navigation has never been obstructed. Then what else to come up? Chinese build-up on Spratly is going on unfaltered as usual despite all the noise! Yes vulnerable they are but what else isn't an easy target? Even A/C groups are not missile-proof.

Yes military bases on the periphery but they're too expensive to maintain often with dwindling strategic value. Therefore US quit Subic, and Soviet Cam Ranh Bay before. Gone are the days when the Philippines and Vietnam could hide behind top powers and get shielded for free. U need to triple your defence budget and face the music.

~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
 
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Yes interwined economies ~ now u @Oblaks get a step closer to the truth. Big guys know that deep in heart so play on the game to put up a SHOW to small guys. But never will a real face-off take place, like in Syria or Crimea. Small guys stuck in between are always the first to be scrapped or fleeced.

Now that US is buffing and puffing with drills as loud comforting messages to Asian buddies, what can be done is being done to prove freedom of navigation has never been obstructed. Then what else to come up? Chinese build-up on Spratly is going on unfaltered as usual despite all the noise! Yes vulnerable they are but what else isn't an easy target? Even A/C groups are not missile-proof.

Yes military bases on the periphery but they're too expensive to maintain often with dwindling strategic value. Therefore US quit Subic, and Soviet Cam Ranh Bay before. Gone are the days when the Philippines and Vietnam could hide behind top powers and get shielded for free. U need to triple your defence budget and face the music.

~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
Now you @amoy should stop using web traslators to say what you mean. Island building was tolerated because those reefs were already china held. Those were also outside of the Philippine EEZ. Besides other claimants also does that reclamation thingy. Try scarborough shoal and you would know what the real world response would be.

Subic Base was abandoned because they were kicked out by the Philippine government not because of budget problems. Get your uneducated facts corrected.
 

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