Pentagon planning to send US military aircraft, Navy ships near China

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There is no point in reasoning with you, Chinaman or Chinawoman, whatever creature you are since your brain is too corrupted by state media. The game never stops for you because the CCP will constantly brainwash you so they will have a strong endless hold of power in china. If i were you, instead of believing the ccp that China and the Chinese people are ones being oppressed here, better be one of those who tell the ccp to hold their horses because we never know that they may be putting you chinese people and the rest of the world in the brink of war.
Chinamen & China women suffer from acute mental paralysis because of daily feeds of propaganda from state machinery... Chinese are in capable of independent thinking...
 

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I guess for being silent on this issue, it seems their silence has not gained anything in return from the chinese... Below was Malaysia's stand 2 years ago...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...h-other-asean-claimants-over-china-sea-threat

Malaysia Splits With Asean Claimants on China Sea Threat

“Just because you have enemies, doesn’t mean your enemies are my enemies,” Hishammuddin said on the sidelines of meetings with counterparts from the Association of Southeast Asian Nations as well as the U.S. The Chinese “can patrol every day, but if their intention is not to go to war” it is of less concern, he said. “I think we have enough level of trust that we will not be moved by day-to-day politics or emotions.”

“Asean is divided on the South China Sea dispute because all the members have different interests in the South China Sea and their relationships with China also differ,” said Ian Storey, a senior fellow at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore. “Vietnam and the Philippines see the dispute as a major national security concern while Malaysia and Brunei always downplay
 

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Chinamen & China women suffer from acute mental paralysis because of daily feeds of propaganda from state machinery... Chinese are in capable of independent thinking...
Is Chinese giving up their legitimate claim - the so-called independent thinking u're good at? Why don't try the other way around - request PH and VN to withdraw?

The energy reserves equal to Persian Gulf, and the only hope to go green by replacing coal to reduce CO2 emission. Asking Chinese to let go of all this? R u sure u still have any thinking faculty?

:bplease: Clearly u r the one in mental paralysis, my Indian genius!
 

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Is Chinese giving up their legitimate claim - the so-called independent thinking u're good at?

The energy reserves equal to Persian Gulf, and the only hope to go green by replacing coal to reduce CO2 emission. Asking Chinese to let go of all this? R u sure u still have any thinking faculty?

:bplease: Clearly u r the one in mental paralysis, my Indian genius!
No one is saying China to give up any legitimate claims [ if any] but to be responsible nation...

I have worked with Chinese men and women [ the one's from China ] they are too scared to express their views and ideas, not sure who is watching them even in USA...

I do accept those who disagrees with me...
 

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No one is saying China to give up any legitimate claims [ if any] but to be responsible nation...

I have worked with Chinese men and women [ the one's from China ] they are too scared to express their views and ideas, not sure who is watching them even in USA...

I do accept those who disagrees with me...
Too scared to express their views? LOL u were so unlucky but now u're getting some luck here's a Chinese telling u straightly what a normal thinking is like ~ South China Sea has a good reason to be called CHINA Sea. Got it?!

As a UNSC P5 China has every responsibility to explore the waters and reefs for the future of mankind.

Do try harder to improve Inglish lest nobody understand what u r murmuring again but u'd assume they daren't express themselves. [emoji23]



~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
 

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It's u who's been corrupted by war-mongering propaganda. US will fight your war?! Only in your pipedream.

UN tribunal? the tribunal has no jurisdiction to decide the case.The issue of territorial sovereignty falls beyond the purview of the UNCLOS Convention. U have no case there.
Says who??? YOU???

Now u may gang up on China. But that marriage of convenience won't last.
Says who again??? YOU??? Uhhh no... Not buyin those!!! You Chini guy pretend too much to be an expert on a lot of stuff when in fact is you only puke out what you hear and see on freakin' chinese fake media
 

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As a UNSC P5 China has every responsibility to explore the waters and reefs for the future of mankind.
Toooooot. WRONG! CCP does not care about the rest of the world, maybe does not care about the common chinaman either. They only want a lasting hold of power and that greedy solution of how to feed dumplings and noodles (and tigers and sharks fin and snakes...uuuh oohhh) that 1/3rd of the world's population.


Do try harder to improve Inglish lest nobody understand what u r murmuring again but u'd assume they daren't express themselves. [emoji23]

Look who's talking... Mr perfect english himself!!!!


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Says who again??? YOU??? Uhhh no... Not buyin those!!! You Chini guy pretend too much to be an expert on a lot of stuff when in fact is you only puke out what you hear and see on freakin' chinese fake media
regrettably u dont take my words of wisdom. then go ahead to the tribunal and keep me informed of outcomes if any.

it's u who pretend US will come to yr rescue like whistling in the dark to calm yourself down.

mind u the greatest PH hero Jose Rizal was also partly of Chini / Chinaman descent ~ not according to freaking Chinese media!

~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
 

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Too scared to express their views? LOL u were so unlucky but now u're getting some luck here's a Chinese telling u straightly what a normal thinking is like ~ South China Sea has a good reason to be called CHINA Sea. Got it?!
Chinese are too scared to talk, this is hard truth ... they can not speak against their government ... what a shame !!

If the same reason are applied then Indian ocean will become India's ocean ... Got it ?

China is too weak to take control of south China sea... more so with hoax of economic growth about to be exposed...

As a UNSC P5 China has every responsibility to explore the waters and reefs for the future of mankind.
UNSC P5 member does not guarantee right to steal other countries resources... Got it ?

China was the only allied country who did not had the spine to fight back ...

Do try harder to improve Inglish lest nobody understand what u r murmuring again but u'd assume they daren't express themselves. [emoji23]



~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
very well, I will now try Chinglish !! will that help ??
 

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regrettably u dont take my words of wisdom. then go ahead to the tribunal and keep me informed of outcomes if any.

it's u who pretend US will come to yr rescue like whistling in the dark to calm yourself down.

mind u the greatest PH hero Jose Rizal was also partly of Chini / Chinaman descent ~ not according to freaking Chinese media!

~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
It is obvious that There is no wisdom in what you are bringing up here buddy. We've all read and heard those from chinese press releases.

mind u the greatest PH hero Jose Rizal was also partly of Chini / Chinaman descent ~ not according to freaking Chinese media!
Wrong again.. He was hitler's bastatrd.. Get it??.
 

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I find it amusing that some Indians had attempted to have serious conversation with Chicoms. :laugh:
 

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Chinamen & China women suffer from acute mental paralysis because of daily feeds of propaganda from state machinery... Chinese are in capable of independent thinking...
Is this kind of India expression of "I run out of argument"?
 

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Toooooot. WRONG! CCP does not care about the rest of the world, maybe does not care about the common chinaman either. They only want a lasting hold of power and that greedy solution of how to feed dumplings and noodles (and tigers and sharks fin and snakes...uuuh oohhh) that 1/3rd of the world's population.
Wow, are you suggesting that Vietnam gov doesn't care how to feed your own population?
By the way, Chinese population is only about 18% of world population. But India and China together would be about 1/3 of the world's population.
 

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Wow, are you suggesting that Vietnam gov doesn't care how to feed your own population?
By the way, Chinese population is only about 18% of world population. But India and China together would be about 1/3 of the world's population.
Whatever. Vietnam will feed its own people with the country's own legitimate resources. China will go as far as thousands of miles beyond its borders to provide sharksfin and sea turtles for their population
 

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Too scared to express their views? LOL u were so unlucky but now u're getting some luck here's a Chinese telling u straightly what a normal thinking is like ~ South China Sea has a good reason to be called CHINA Sea. Got it?!

As a UNSC P5 China has every responsibility to explore the waters and reefs for the future of mankind.

Do try harder to improve Inglish lest nobody understand what u r murmuring again but u'd assume they daren't express themselves. [emoji23]



~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
What kind of argument was that . South China sea has China in it so it's belongs to China ? Wow day by day insecurity of China is creeping to new hight . Read the international law first . And then you come to debate. After your brain is full of botched up truth of u r communist brutal education .

On topic : I always maintained that Chinese communist party already digged huge holes across Chinese foreign policies. How many mistakes you will make ?

All you are doing is yo strengthen your enemies and any helping them to gang up against you . You think you will defeat everyone in war ? What do you even have to do that ?
 

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What kind of argument was that . South China sea has China in it so it's belongs to China ? Wow day by day insecurity of China is creeping to new hight . Read the international law first . And then you come to debate. After your brain is full of botched up truth of u r communist brutal education .

On topic : I always maintained that Chinese communist party already digged huge holes across Chinese foreign policies. How many mistakes you will make ?

All you are doing is yo strengthen your enemies and any helping them to gang up against you . You think you will defeat everyone in war ? What do you even have to do that ?
Your ignorance has no borders. :biggrin2:

Chinese claim over those reefs/waters dates far far back to time immemorial, when there was no Communist Party, nor Bharatiya Janata Party, prior to Indian independence.

U an indian don't care about "truth", nor "intl law". Your argument is sheerly to vent your anti-Chinese grievances and frustrations.

Here for your enlightenment ----

On 6 November 1946, the ROC government sent four warships to the South China Sea to secure islands within the region, commanded by Lin Zun and Yao Ruyu (姚汝鈺): ROCS Chung-Yeh (中業號), ROCS Yung-hsing (永興號), ROCS Tai-ping (太平號) and ROCS Chung-chien (中建號). The warships departed from Guangzhou and headed towards the Spratly and Paracel island groups. On 12 December the two ships led by Lin Zun, ROCS Tai-ping and ROCS Chung-Yeh, arrived at Taiping Island. In commemoration of the island being secured, the island was chosen to be named after the ROCS Tai-ping warship, and thus a stone stele reading "Taiping island" was erected on a breakwater tip southwest of the island.[6] The other three ships likewise had their names used: Woody Island (in the Paracels) was named Yongxing (Yung-hsing) Island (presently PRC-occupied), Triton Island (Paracels) was namedZhongjian (Chung-chien) Island (presently PRC-occupied), and Thitu Island (Spratlys) was named Zhongye (Chung-Yeh) Island (presently Philippines-occupied).
Following the defeat of Japan at the end of World War II, the Republic of China re-claimed the entirety of the Paracels, Pratas and Spratly Islands after accepting the Japanese surrender of the islands based on the Cairo and Potsdam Declarations. In November 1946, the Republic of China sent naval ships to take control of these islands after the surrender of Japan.[12]

The nine-dotted line was originally an eleven-dotted-line first shown on a map published by the Kuomintang government of the Republic of China (1912–1949) in December 1947 to justify its claims in the South China Sea.[10] After the Communist Party of China took over mainland China and formed the People's Republic of China in 1949, the line was adopted and revised to nine as endorsed by Zhou Enlai.[10] After evacuating to Taiwan, the Republic of China has continued its claims, and the nine-dotted line remains as the rationale for Taiwan's claims to the Spratly and Paracel Islands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-dotted_line

Chinese have a consistent hold and claim over there, Qing Dynasty, the 1st Republic, the 2nd Repblic, even before colonies like India or Philippines were independent entities.



An image of three Republic of China flags, including the "Five-coloured flag" (centre), the army flag (left) and Sun Yat-sen's flag, the flag currently in use in Taiwan.
 

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Your ignorance has no borders. :biggrin2:

Chinese claim over those reefs/waters dates far far back to time immemorial, when there was no Communist Party, nor Bharatiya Janata Party, prior to Indian independence.

U an indian don't care about "truth", nor "intl law". Your argument is sheerly to vent your anti-Chinese grievances and frustrations.

Here for your enlightenment ----



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-dotted_line

Chinese have a consistent hold and claim over there, Qing Dynasty, the 1st Republic, the 2nd Repblic, even before colonies like India or Philippines were independent entities.



An image of three Republic of China flags, including the "Five-coloured flag" (centre), the army flag (left) and Sun Yat-sen's flag, the flag currently in use in Taiwan.

SO Chinese had no shame since time immemorial - perpetual bullies only to be bullied around by every tom dick and harry in the neighborhood :D
 

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SO Chinese had no shame since time immemorial - perpetual bullies only to be bullied around by every tom dick and harry in the neighborhood :D
the second time u use tom dick and harry to phrase yr bitterness. do u hav a crush on them? [emoji38]

other than trolling and whining what else do u hav to deny Chinese claim? as late as 1946 Chinese navy was landing there when India or Philippine were nowhere as states.

~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
 

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Your ignorance has no borders. :biggrin2:

Chinese claim over those reefs/waters dates far far back to time immemorial, when there was no Communist Party, nor Bharatiya Janata Party, prior to Indian independence.

U an indian don't care about "truth", nor "intl law". Your argument is sheerly to vent your anti-Chinese grievances and frustrations.
Chinese have a consistent hold and claim over there, Qing Dynasty, the 1st Republic, the 2nd Repblic, even before colonies like India or Philippines were independent entities.
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First of all your Wikipedia source was probably written by some paid Chinese internet troll.. Anybody can write and edit any entry in Wikipedia.

I suggest you read the article below. It is very enlightening and it will give you the opportunity to be de-brainwashed. Get your tunnels ready as this might site might be blocked in China

For your enlightenment....
http://www.asiasentinel.com/politics/fact-fiction-south-china-sea/3/
The Chinese did not know where the spratlys were...1933 when the French annexed the spratlys.....
Francois-Xavier Bonnet has found American records showing that immediately after the French announcement the Chinese government had to ask its consul in Manila, Mr Kuan-ling Kwong to ask the American colonial authorities there for a map showing their location. Only then was the government in Nanjing able to understand that these islands were not in the Paracels and then decide not to issue any formal protest.

According to Bonnet, the reason is evident from minutes of a meeting of the Republic of China’s Military Council on 1 September 1933, “All our professional geographers say that Triton Island [in the Paracels] is the southernmost island of our territory.” The RoC decided that it had no claim in the Spratly Islands at that point and therefore had nothing to protest against.
Why the features in the Spratlys had Chinese names...
The island names

In his 1997 paper Shen claims the RoC Government “reviewed the names of the islands in the South China Sea” in 1932. In fact that government committee simply translated or transliterated the existing British or international names. As a result several of the Chinese names continue to honour the British surveyors that first mapped the features. In the Paracels, Líng yang Jiao – Antelope Reef – is named after a British survey vessel, the Antelope. Jīn yín Dǎo – Money Island – is not named after notes and coins – but after William Taylor Money, the Superintendent of the Bombay Marine – the navy of the East India Company.
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Following the defeat of Japan at the end of
World War II, the Republic of China re-claimed the entirety of the Paracels, Pratas and Spratly Islands after accepting the Japanese surrender of the islands based on the Cairo and Potsdam Declarations. In November 1946, the Republic of China sent naval ships to take control of these islands after the surrender of Japan.[12]
The truth about The Cairo Declaration is the Japs did not surrender the SCS islands to China read on..
The Cairo Declaration

Shen (2002 p139) and Xi and Tan (2014) follow the PRC foreign ministry in arguing that, under the 1943 Cairo Declaration, the wartime allies awarded the South China Sea islands to China. The CAN paper discusses this claim and explicitly rejects it on the grounds that,

“The Cairo Declaration, as reinforced by the Potsdam Proclamation, only provides that China would recover Manchuria, Formosa [Taiwan], and the Pescadores [Penghu Islands] after the war. The next sentence simply provides that Japan would be expelled from “other territories” which it had taken by violence, but it does not indicate that these “other territories” would be returned to China. Although not specifically stated, the only logical conclusion is that these “other territories” included the Spratly and Paracel Islands, which were seized by violence from France, not China..
the truth about the spratlys for your enlightenment
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Japanese Surrender in the Paracels

The CNA paper and Ambassador Freeman’s presentation both carry claims that Chinese forces received the surrender of the Japanese garrisons in the Paracels and Spratlys at the end of the Second World War. Freeman has argued that the US Navy actually transported Chinese forces to the islands for this purpose. In personal communication with the author he has not been able to provide any corroborating evidence for the assertion.

Based upon evidence from US and Australian military archives, the claim seems very unlikely to be true. During the war Japan had military bases on Woody and Pattle islands in the Paracels and Itu Aba in the Spratlys. Woody Island was shelled by the submarine USS Pargo on 6 February 1945 and on 8 March American aircraft bombed both it and Pattle Island. When another submarine, the USS Cabrilla, visited Woody Island on 2 July, the French tricolour was flying, but this time with a white flag above it.

Itu Aba was napalmed by US planes on 1 May 1945. Six months later, the US Navy sent a reconnaissance mission to Itu Aba, It landed on 20 November 1945 and found the island unoccupied – the Japanese had fled.

It wasn’t until more than a year later – December 1946 that a Chinese landing party – using second-hand American warships just transferred to the RoC Navy – was able to reach the island. (The French had arrived two months before and reclaimed the island but that’s rarely mentioned in Chinese sources.) The Chinese name for Itu Aba is Taiping Dao, named after the warship that carried the landing party. The Taiping was previously the USS Decker. The irony is that if the US had not supplied those warships China would have no claim in the Spratly Islands today.

The Japs were the first ones to use and control the islands in the Spratlys during WW2. Before that, the CCP had no idea and interest on where and what those islands are except probably for a couple of fisher folks. After WW2, the japs gave up the spratlys but they did not explicitly endorse it to China. Sending a couple of ships to check it out does not mean it's already yours. there was no effective occupation. The CCP drew the 9-dashed line just to be able to encompass those features because they had no idea of what they were. They were too far from China. There it is a no brainer that the 9-dashed line had no basis and until now nobody from China even you trolls here can definitively explain what the hell that 9-dash line was based from. The only thing that the 9-dashed line demontstrated was the beginning of Chinese GREED sweeping across Asia!
 

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