Pakistanis Claiming Vedic Civilisation As Ancient Pakistan, Need To Counter It

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''''Many visitors to this forum especially people who have been following it for a long time might have noticed the increasing number of Pakistanis who started claiming exclusive rights over Sindhu Saraswati and vedic civilisation. Although there are still people here like umair nawaz who still believe that he is of pure Arab descent and his blood has not yet contaminated with Pakistani blood the number of such people has also come down considerably..there was a time in this very forum itself when most Pakistanis called themselves Arabs,Persians,turks etc etc to dissociate themselves from Indians..Even the number of people who claimed such foreign ancestry has come down a lot. (Of course lay man in Pakistan still considers himself as some Arab or Turk).. I would like to draw the attention of my fellow countrymen in this regard.Do not be fooled to believe that these PDF Pakistanis have started to take pride in their rich history..It is only to steal the right over the legacy of those civilizations from indians have these people started this new tamasha.They are full of jealous of Indians and want to annoy us..Pakistanis cross your heart and tell us honestly,is it not true?what brought about this change?'''

I saw this on Pakistan Defence Forum by an Indian to counter Pakistanis. It is a new strategy of Pakistanis to isolate Indians from their History and claiming whole of the vedic civilisation, sindhu civilisation and origin of faiths and culture to them.

We need to fail their trolls because if this takes a momentum to isolate us and sabotage us.
Why not to use this opportunity to create Identity crisis in them :cool3:




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Vedic civilization is indigenous to Bharat , Most of the places are in India.

Most of the Rishis and other prominent personalities, most of the literature is in India. They have one solid historic evidence that is Harappa Mohenjadaro sites, But with the start of excavations in Gujarat, Haryana and other parts of India it is now being established that the civilization is not unique to Indus region it spread through out region of India.

British tried to deny the civilization and other aspects to make it look Indians are inferior. But never succeeded.

Pakistan is a small region to claim every thing !

Even Taxila was established by Ashoka the Great, During 1950's and 1960's Pakistani intellectuals tried hard to establish some historic reference to Pakistan and make it look different than India but all those attempts failed.
 
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Dude you shouldn't have posted the links to that baki site here. Mods don't like it ! :/
 

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Dude you shouldn't have posted the links to that baki site here. Mods don't like it ! :/

I mentioned mods too, because I need a link or proof to authenticate whatever I am saying. And look at those Pakistanis, how proudly they are claiming.

Heights of Identity Crisis these Pakistanis have. We should utilize this opportunity
 

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Nobody gives a shit about what Pakis say other than Pakis themselves. Full of delusions and self obsession.

This is what years of inbreeding do to your capability to think and analyze things.
 

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The truth on the ground is other than a few internet trolls (who make such claims) pakistanis have lost complete contact with their past.Accepting vedic culture as their past means accepting that they were hindus and that is undoing most of the work put in by their masters for brainwashing them as arabs,turks, mongols .

The simplest counter argument to this is that only those who are following vedic culture today are custodians of a civilization.... they were part of a greater vedic civilization is all, also tell them that going by that logic only arabians have a right to Islam and they should revert back to the religion of their ancestors if they really want to claim to be part of it.
 

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The truth on the ground is other than a few internet trolls (who make such claims) pakistanis have lost complete contact with their past.Accepting vedic culture as their past means accepting that they were hindus and that is undoing most of the work put in by their masters for brainwashing them as arabs,turks, mongols .

The simplest counter argument to this is that only those who are following vedic culture today are custodians of a civilization.... they were part of a greater vedic civilization is all, also tell them that going by that logic only arabians have a right to Islam and they should revert back to the religion of their ancestors if they really want to claim to be part of it.
Very well said!!

How can we use this against them to create more identity crisis? One body going for Hadees other, claiming their ancient hereditary. Can we get out of something for our profit? :devil:
 

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Their identity crisis won't leave them anytime soon. Unfortunate people facing rejection from even Arabia ; have nothing else to brag with unreal identity, faith, civilisation and history. They wanted to be the face, idol and leaders but here they are.
 

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Hadiths are not considered authentic by most of them.... their religion forbids them to lay claim to anything.... especially not to some culture that doesn't espouse islam. If they accept Vedic past , islam is out of their lives...
Very well said!!

How can we use this against them to create more identity crisis? One body going for Hadees other, claiming their ancient hereditary. Can we get out of something for our profit? :devil:
 

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Their identity crisis won't leave them anytime soon. Unfortunate people facing rejection from even Arabia ; have nothing else to brag with unreal identity, faith, civilisation and history. They wanted to be the face, idol and leaders but here they are.
Can you explain this phrase more !
 

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Hadiths are not considered authentic by most of them.... their religion forbids them to lay claim to anything.... especially not to some culture that doesn't espouse islam. If they accept Vedic past , islam is out of their lives...
A deobandi Fatwa will do the job :india2:
 

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Don't bother about this issue, they can't accept vedic culture as theirs or else it will be a complete denial of their faith.:biggrin2:

Ancient Pakistan is a part of Vedic culture but Pakistanis have not rights to deny Indians of their culture !
 

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That is why i said that by that logic Islam belongs only to Arabians and hence they should revert back to the reigion of their ancestors if they want to be recognized as a part of vedic culture. Nobody can lay claim to something they have no understanding of... nor follow...Islam forbids them from all of this. This is the reason they are so fanatic in their following of Islam.... there are no means of escaping it once you are in it.

Ancient Pakistan is a part of Vedic culture but Pakistanis have not rights to deny Indians of their culture !
 

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That is why i said that by that logic Islam belongs only to Arabians and hence they should revert back to the reigion of their ancestors if they want to be recognized as a part of vedic culture. Nobody can lay claim to something they have no understanding of... nor follow...Islam forbids them from all of this. This is the reason they are so fanatic in their following of Islam.... there are no means of escaping it once you are in it.
Seems the reason why they hate any good news about Indian culture or any thing related to India.
 

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Well at some level it hasn't left them, they still follow caste system.... so it is hard to get the hindu out of them .... but you won't ever get them to admit it, that is the reason why this is only to irritate indians, this claim to vedic culture.... And the descendants of those hindus who represented vedic civilization there, no longer live there, most moved to the gangetic plain after the saraswati was lost... so either they resurrect their vedic past or let it go... no third choice really.

Seems the reason why they hate any good news about Indian culture or any thing related to India.
 

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this reminds me of a hilarious paki website i had encountered years back while wandering through the web. the site had lengthy articles and clickbait kind of links which introduced and expounded on the 'glorious' paki civilisation dating 5000 years back and ofcourse, the Vedas and such being part of it; pakistan according to that site was an ancient country/civilisation. such fervent patriotism brought tears to my eyes (that is, tears from laughing hard)!
 

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