Pakistan set to declare Gilgit-Baltistan as fifth province

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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is planning to declare the strategic Gilgit-Baltistan region as the fifth province, a move that may raise concerns in India as it borders the disputed Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.

Pakistan's minister for inter-provincial coordination Riaz Hussain Pirzada told Geo TV that a committee headed by advisor of foreign affairs Sartaj Aziz had proposed giving the status of a province to Gilgit-Baltistan.

"The committee recommended that Gilgit-Baltistan should be made a province of Pakistan," Pirzada said on Wednesday.

He also said that a constitutional amendment would be made to change the status of the region, through which the $46 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor(CPEC) passes.

Gilgit-Baltistan is treated as a separate geographical entity by Pakistan. It has a regional assembly and an elected chief minister.

Balochistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Punjab and Sindh are four provinces of Pakistan.

The move may raise concerns in India as the disputed region borders Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK).

It is believed that China's concerns about the unsettled status of Gilgit-Baltistan prompted Pakistan to change its status.

According to an earlier report in Dawn newspaper, Pakistan was mulling to elevate the constitutional status of the region in a bid to provide legal cover to the CPEC.

The move could signal a historic shift in the country's position on the future of the wider Kashmir region, the paper had quoted experts as saying.
 

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Looks like they want to now secure POK slowly declaring it as another provision to prove the legitimacy of the CPEC
 

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India does not have balls to abolish article 370 and trifurcate Kashmir into 3 states Leh-laddakh, Jammu and Kashmir. This will actually solve Kashmir issue forever. Put all Kashmiri leaders like Abdullahs, Geelani, Yasin Malik, etc. Under prison, stop all telecom services, stop media any camera seen should be broken and a thorough cleaning of Kashmir like Hitler did to Jews is needed. Settle Kashmiri pandits, retired army Navy IAF personnel and people from other parts of country to change demographics is necessary to completely finish problem.
 

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We are not pakistan bro .. We don t use heavy gunship or Attack copters like they do in FATA and Baloch ,, We still try to win kashmiri s hearts with love on one hand and soft stick on the other ..

India does not have balls to abolish article 370 and trifurcate Kashmir into 3 states Leh-laddakh, Jammu and Kashmir. This will actually solve Kashmir issue forever. Put all Kashmiri leaders like Abdullahs, Geelani, Yasin Malik, etc. Under prison, stop all telecom services, stop media any camera seen should be broken and a thorough cleaning of Kashmir like Hitler did to Jews is needed. Settle Kashmiri pandits, retired army Navy IAF personnel and people from other parts of country to change demographics is necessary to completely finish problem.
 

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We are not pakistan bro .. We don t use heavy gunship or Attack copters like they do in FATA and Baloch ,, We still try to win kashmiri s hearts with love on one hand and soft stick on the other ..
LOL with pellet guns :) ..................
 
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Looks like they want to now secure POK slowly declaring it as another provision to prove the legitimacy of the CPEC
Ghantaa!! :biggrin2:
Kuchh nahi hoga, they have not recognized their country's claim themselves for 7 decades and today even planning because of a foreign party?
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LOL with pellet guns :) ..................
Less pathetic than bombing so fighter planes.
 

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That is so cheap bombing civilians using american funded fighter jets which were supposed to target Taliban and Haqqani s ...Paki s spit comes and falls on their face when they talk about kashmir and pellet guns ....
Selective memory you have.
Remember Mizoram, how you bombed it and lied about it for decades?
 

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Air attacks in Mizoram, 1966 - our dirty, little secret
By Abheek Barman, ET Bureau | 19 Feb, 2013


The original villages, crops and granaries were destroyed to deny wandering insurgents shelter and food.
One month and four days after becoming prime minister of India,Indira Gandhi was faced with a problem familiar to her father, Jawaharlal Nehru: an insurgency in the north east. On February 28, 1966, the Mizo National Army (MNA) revolted against India and fighting broke out across the region. In response, the Indian state did two unprecedented things.

By March 2, the MNA had overrun the Aizawl treasury and armoury and was at the headquarters of the Assam Rifles. It had also captured several smaller towns south of Aizawl. The military tried to ferry troops and weapons by helicopter, but was driven away by MNA snipers.

So, at 11:30 am on March 5, the air force attacked Aizawl with heavy machine gun fire. On March 6, the attack intensified, and incendiary bombs were dropped. This killed innocents and completely destroyed the four largest areas of the city: Republic Veng, Hmeichche Veng, Dawrpui Veng and Chhinga Veng.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...-dirty-little-secret/articleshow/18565883.cms
 

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Selective memory you have.
Remember Mizoram, how you bombed it and lied about it for decades?
also since then, lessons learnt and aerial bombings were not done on civilians .
it's not about the mistakes done, it is also about lessons learnt and change in tactics..

Right now IA and central forces are willing to take the bullets rather than bomb the shit out of jihadis and the reds, That takes courage and patience . hell, our guys don't even use more than 51mm mortars in naxal areas. and your chaps use Fighter jets ,combat helis, Tanks and what not..

sometimes it is not about demonstrating all your strengths, a little bit of level-fight is needed too.
 

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All you were able to counter us with this all the way back to 50 years back in past . Don t forget just 5 years right after this we bombed shit out of another near by place which was part of the training and funding for the uprising in Mizoram ..you guys put your hands everywhere .... East Pakistan Aka Bangladesh in 1971 ...


Air attacks in Mizoram, 1966 - our dirty, little secret
By Abheek Barman, ET Bureau | 19 Feb, 2013


The original villages, crops and granaries were destroyed to deny wandering insurgents shelter and food.
One month and four days after becoming prime minister of India,Indira Gandhi was faced with a problem familiar to her father, Jawaharlal Nehru: an insurgency in the north east. On February 28, 1966, the Mizo National Army (MNA) revolted against India and fighting broke out across the region. In response, the Indian state did two unprecedented things.

By March 2, the MNA had overrun the Aizawl treasury and armoury and was at the headquarters of the Assam Rifles. It had also captured several smaller towns south of Aizawl. The military tried to ferry troops and weapons by helicopter, but was driven away by MNA snipers.

So, at 11:30 am on March 5, the air force attacked Aizawl with heavy machine gun fire. On March 6, the attack intensified, and incendiary bombs were dropped. This killed innocents and completely destroyed the four largest areas of the city: Republic Veng, Hmeichche Veng, Dawrpui Veng and Chhinga Veng.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...-dirty-little-secret/articleshow/18565883.cms
 
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India having nationalist party with strong majority and public support at the centre, if govt. does not escalate matter at hand,i.e. Pakistan declaring Gilgit Baltistan as fifth province, opposition parties will take a strong jibe on the central govt. and will make it an issue about national sovereignty and pride for upcoming elections. This will seriously hit credibility of any nationalistic party.
Further, with current situation of Indian armed forces, govt. is in no situation to take military action.Further. to strengthen Pakistani forces , right now 100,000 Chinese Marine are situated in Port of Gwadar.
It will be quite interesting to see how Indian govt, diplomacy and defence forces will solve the matter at the hand.

Further, this development has thrown third party, i.e. Hurriyat, out of the claim for Jammu & Kashmir. This development has strengthen Indian narrative that small states like Jammu & Kashmir cannot exist in such neighbourhood.
 
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As per the news report, this was initiated by sartaj aziz. i said last year that the guy has gone senile because of his old age.

if they declare GB as a province, the probability of solution to kashmir problem either thru war or diplomacy increases.
 

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More than the indian government it will be the pakistan government who will be more worried once they make this move and see the turn of events happening in the Gilgit northern province area s especially from the people who are living there who will kick the move .


India having nationalist party with strong majority and public support at the centre, if govt. does not escalate matter at hand,i.e. Pakistan declaring Gilgit Baltistan as fifth province, opposition parties will take a strong jibe on the central govt. and will make it an issue about national sovereignty and pride for upcoming elections. This will seriously hit credibility of any nationalistic party.
Further, with current situation of Indian armed forces, govt. is in no situation to take military action.Further. to strengthen Pakistani forces , right now 100,000 Chinese Marine are situated in Port of Gwadar.
It will be quite interesting to see how Indian govt, diplomacy and defence forces will solve the matter at the hand.
 

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also since then, lessons learnt and aerial bombings were not done on civilians .
it's not about the mistakes done, it is also about lessons learnt and change in tactics..

Right now IA and central forces are willing to take the bullets rather than bomb the shit out of jihadis and the reds, That takes courage and patience . hell, our guys don't even use more than 51mm mortars in naxal areas. and your chaps use Fighter jets ,combat helis, Tanks and what not..

sometimes it is not about demonstrating all your strengths, a little bit of level-fight is needed too.
Our fight is against a much more deadlier force, the Taliban and Daesh. No civilians are being targeted in FATA. Can you say the same? How many stonepelters did go blind? How many died? You will take bullets with pride and courage yet kill innocent civilians armed with stones? Some logic.
 

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