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After PM's tough talk, Zardari opts out of NAM meet
In a sudden development, President Asif Ali Zardari has decided not to attend the NAM Summit in Egypt next month, apparently to avoid another meeting with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh whose blunt public comments appear to have annoyed Pakistan.

Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani will lead the Pakistani delegation to the Summit at Sharm-el Shaikh on July 15, the Foreign Office announced, a day after Singh had told reporters that he and Zardari would be meeting on the sidelines of the Summit.

At the start of their ice-breaking meeting at Yekaterinburg in Russia on Tuesday, Singh had told Zardari in full glare of international media that his mandate was limited to telling that Pakistan should not allow its soil to be used for terrorism against India.

It had been announced later that the Foreign Secretaries of the two countries would meet to discuss terrorism and then the two leaders would "take stock" of their deliberations when they meet in Sharm-el Shaikh.

Foreign Office spokesman Abdul Basit told the weekly news briefing here on Thursday that would lead the Pakistani delegation to next month's NAM summit.

Pakistan has been represented at the last few NAM summits by former President Pervez Musharraf.

Basit, however, sought to play down the development. "We said the next meeting at Sharm el-Sheikh would be between the political leadership of the two countries. It was never said whether the President or the Prime Minister would represent Pakistan," he told PTI.

Diplomatic and other sources said the move was a reaction to Singh's remarks, which the pro-establishment daily The News had described as "rude". They said the intention was to send out a clear message that Singh's comments had not gone down well with the Pakistan government.

The usually soft-spoken Singh caught Zardari off guard during their meeting on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation in Russia on Tuesday when he told him in front of journalists that Pakistan needed to control terrorism emanating from its territory.

Apparently embarrassed, the Pakistani President told Singh that they could talk after journalists have left the hall.

Pakistan's The News daily extensively covered Singh's remarks in a report headlined "Singh surprises with rude public remark" but other sections of the media played up Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi's comment that the meeting between Singh and Zardari was a "positive
development".

The meeting between Singh and Zardari was the first high-level contact between the leadership of the two countries since last year's Mumbai terror attacks, which India blamed on Pakistan-based elements including the Lashkar-e-Taiba.

Observers said the latest development could impact Pakistan's efforts to bring composite dialogue back on track.

India put the peace process on hold in the wake of the Mumbai attacks and has linked the resumption of dialogue to Pakistan acting
against perpetrators of the terrorist strike.
After PM's tough talk, Zardari opts out of NAM meet
 

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Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

‘All issues including Kashmir will be discussed with India’

* FO spokesman says PM to represent Pakistan at NAM summit
* Says Islamabad not considering signing CTBT

Staff Report

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan said on Thursday that it wanted result-oriented dialogue with its neighbour to resolve all outstanding issues, including the Jammu and Kashmir dispute.

President Asif Zardari and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh met in Yekaterinburg in Russia on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit and decided to resume the dialogue process.

“Pakistan is a responsible country and seriously wants to resume the dialogue process with India to resolve the disputes between the two countries through negotiations,” Foreign Office spokesman Abdul Basit said at the weekly FO briefing.

The spokesman said there were two tangible outcomes of the meeting between President Zardari and Prime Minister Singh. He said one was the agreement to resume the dialogue process at the foreign-secretary level and the other was the consensus between the two leaders to meet again.

Representing the country: Abdul Basit said Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani would represent Pakistan at the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) summit being held at Sharm El Sheikh next month. He said Pakistan was an active member of NAM and considered it a useful opportunity to raise all issues at the summit including terrorism, extremism and the crisis of internally displaced persons.

Replying to a question, the spokesman dispelled the impression “created by the Indian media” that Pakistan was begging for the meeting between President Zardari and Prime Minister Singh. Pakistan is a responsible country and has always made sincere efforts for the resumption of dialogue, he said. “The SCO summit provided a great opportunity for Pakistan and India to break the ice and both the countries have agreed to resume the dialogue process at the secretary level,” he said.

CTBT: Answering a question on the issue of signing the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty (CTBT), the spokesman said Pakistan’s position on this issue remained unchanged and it was not considering signing the treaty. He said Pakistan however did support the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). To a question about the statement made by the CIA chief that Osama Bin Laden was in Pakistan, the spokesman said there was no authentic information or intelligence about his whereabouts.

The spokesman also said that Pakistan’s accession to the International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism demonstrated the country’s commitment to eliminating terrorism.
 

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Guys, I am tired of this..... Pakistan wants J&K.

Is India ready to give J&K fully to Pakistan simply like that.... I don't think so, Moreover that will never ever happen till the last Indian survives.

They are clear.... They will only dismantle the terror networks after they get Kashmir.

India is not ready for war, Then let us be defensive we have to guard our borders.

There should be no terror Attacks in India(Very very Difficult Task) and we need to foil all their attempts.

Snap all talks with Pakistan, Tell them clearly and strongly that Jammu & Kashmir is a Integral Part of India.

If they push for a war.... we have no other go.... It is a fight to finish..... At the end of the day they should survive or we should survive.
 

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They are clear.... They will only dismantle the terror networks after they get Kashmir.
You are terribly wrong here mate, Pakistan is not going to give up terrorism come what may. Suppose if they get J&K next day all the jehadis will become saint or what?
 

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you mean to say that they will Claim Punjab and Himachal Pradesh the following Day?

What else in the world they need? Whether they will not co-exist Peacefully?
 

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you mean to say that they will Claim Punjab and Himachal Pradesh the following Day?

What else in the world they need? Whether they will not co-exist Peacefully?
It seems likely that that is exactly what they will do ??? They don't want to exist peacefully because the whole reason for creation of Pakistan was that Muslims cannot coexist with Hindus...

Haven't you heard their popular TV Shows??? They want the whole of India under the "islamic" banner...
 

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you mean to say that they will Claim Punjab and Himachal Pradesh the following Day?

What else in the world they need? Whether they will not co-exist Peacefully?


It is fight to finish mate :)
 

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Yes Muthu, there is no end to the Pakistani demands. They will not stop at Kashmir. They still have not forgotten the erstwhile kingdoms of Hyderabad and Junagadh as well.
There is no reason to believe that they will turn off the terror tap once they get any resolution on Kashmir to their liking.
 

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Yes Muthu, there is no end to the Pakistani demands. They will not stop at Kashmir. They still have not forgotten the erstwhile kingdoms of Hyderabad and Junagadh as well.
There is no reason to believe that they will turn off the terror tap once they get any resolution on Kashmir to their liking.
Its upto us to make sure that there is no resolution to Kashmir... if at all any resolution comes about, it should be a status quo or one in our favour...
 

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the whole reason for creation of Pakistan was that Muslims cannot coexist with Hindus...
Not our Problem at all..... If they cannot peacefully co-exist... they can die.

Haven't you heard their popular TV Shows??? They want the whole of India under the "islamic" banner...
Good Joke...... again will not happen till the last Indian Survives. Let them dare for that.....
 

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Not our Problem at all..... If they cannot peacefully co-exist... they can die.



Good Joke...... again will not happen till the last Indian Survives. Let them dare for that.....
They are high on ideology and indoctrination thanks to the blatant manipulation of their syllabus right from the school level... Now, everybody in Pakistan whether educated or not thinks that India is the enemy...

We don't think so and the world doesn't think so, but the fact is that they think so...
 

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Guys, What will happen if our PM says "Kashmir belongs to India and no dialogue with Pak on this". What will happen then? Will they start war the next second.
 

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Its upto us to make sure that there is no resolution to Kashmir... if at all any resolution comes about, it should be a status quo or one in our favour...
J & K is a Integral Part of India like Tamilnadu or Maharastra....... If we make concessions... then India will break into 1000 Pieces, Period... do it or die, No other option.
 

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Guys, What will happen if our PM says "Kashmir belongs to India and no dialogue with Pak on this". What will happen then? Will they start war the next second.
This is all within the realm of speculation. If we say that in the current scenario it will upset America's balance in the War on Terror and they would not be very pleased with the outcome...

Whether Pakistan would goto war or not is not that simple. Their airforce performed well in both the previous wars (65 & 71) and at the current moment that is their weakest link in the three forces so they will not risk anything until the JF-17 is inducted in full...

Their Army has always been weaker than us throughout and I haven't seen the circumstances change very much to say that there would be a difference in outcome this time around...

They may try a barrage of missiles at our vital installations and critical infrastructure and at the current moment that could hurt us a lot. But, if the Missile Defence thing goes through well and is implemented, then we don't have much to worry about that aspect either (except for Cruise missiles) which still may get through...

As the balance of power is on our side, they will not risk a war in this situation since they would also realise that it's hara-kiri...
 

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Guys, What will happen if our PM says "Kashmir belongs to India and no dialogue with Pak on this". What will happen then? Will they start war the next second.
I also ask the same Question...... Let us die fighting the enemy rather than getting feared on terror strikes.
 

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This is all within the realm of speculation. If we say that in the current scenario it will upset America's balance in the War on Terror and they would not be very pleased with the outcome...
Americans are fighting their war.... Yes they are helping us in some areas.... but we are not Pakistanis so that we can beg to US all the time.

Never ever trust the Americans.... They are known only for their interests they are not our friends.
 

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This is all within the realm of speculation. If we say that in the current scenario it will upset America's balance in the War on Terror and they would not be very pleased with the outcome...

Whether Pakistan would goto war or not is not that simple. Their airforce performed well in both the previous wars (65 & 71) and at the current moment that is their weakest link in the three forces so they will not risk anything until the JF-17 is inducted in full...

Their Army has always been weaker than us throughout and I haven't seen the circumstances change very much to say that there would be a difference in outcome this time around...

They may try a barrage of missiles at our vital installations and critical infrastructure and at the current moment that could hurt us a lot. But, if the Missile Defence thing goes through well and is implemented, then we don't have much to worry about that aspect either (except for Cruise missiles) which still may get through...

As the balance of power is on our side, they will not risk a war in this situation since they would also realise that it's hara-kiri...
Looks like we are stuck in the web of relations. I think the time-waste diplomatic efforts will suffice during this period.
 

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Americans are fighting their war.... Yes they are helping us in some areas.... but we are not Pakistanis so that we can beg to US all the time.

Never ever trust the Americans.... They are known only for their interests they are not our friends.
I'm sure nobody trusts the Americans in the Foreign Ministry... they have a history of use and throw relationships and nobody likes that...

In Foreign Relations there are no permanent friends or permanent enemies, only permanent interests... Right now our interests are matching with the Americans and so we also play ball with them, in the future if the interests don't match I'm sure that New Delhi will look elsewhere...

Currently the US is helping us in our global ascendancy with the nuclear deal and other arms exports (all of them for money of course, but that doesn't discount the fact that we are gaining from them)... surely, the US actions in Pakistan are hurting our interests, but the advantage from having the Americans on your side is much more than the disadvantage...

Vis-a-vis the Pakistan situation their actions might be hurting us, but as far as global ascendancy is concerned, they are indeed helping us except for a few hiccups in the middle which all relationships tend to have...

India is in a unique situation in the world right now. We have a great relationship with both the Americans, Russians and Europeans and all are willing to do our bidding (almost) because they want a share of the India-shining pie and want to profit from it as well...

As long as the babus at the External Affairs ministry keep their cool and play their cards right, in the long run there can be only one winner in the India-Pakistan standoff, and that is us Indians!!!
 

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