Pakistan plans to buy 600 battle tanks; eyes Russian T-90

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At a time when the modernisation of the Indian Army's armoured corps is moving at a "snail's pace", Pakistan has drawn up a mega plan to procure nearly 600 modern main battle tanks, including the T-90 from Russia, primarily to bolster its combat prowess along the Line of Actual Control in Jammu and Kashmir, military and intelligence sources said on Sunday. The T-90 is also operated by the Indian Army.

Most of the tanks Pakistan was planning to procure were likely to have features like state-of-the-art computerised fire control system for increased accuracy, and they would be able to hit targets within a range of 3 to 4km, sources told PTI.


Some of the tanks are set to be deployed along the Line of Control and they will have wider features for battlefield effectiveness, they added.

Apart from the battle tanks, the Pakistan Army is also procuring 245 150mm SP Mike-10 guns from Italy. It has already received 120 such guns.

The intelligence sources said Pakistan was eyeing a batch of Russian T-90 battle tanks—the mainstay of the armoured regiments of the Indian Army—and that the move reflects Islamabad's intent to forge a deeper defence engagement with Moscow, which has been India's largest defence supplier for decades.

Pakistan has been holding joint military drills with Russia in the last couple of years besides eyeing to purchase Russian platforms, triggering some concern in New Delhi.

The sources said as part of the ambitious plan to significantly revamp its armoured fleet by 2025, Pakistan has decided to procure at least 360 main battle tanks from leading global manufacturers and produce 220 tanks indigenously with help from China.

The Pakistan Army's move to enhance its armoured corps comes at a time the Line of Actual Control in Jammu and Kashmir has witnessed growing hostilities, especially over the last one year. The Indian Army has been strongly retaliating to every unprovoked firing by the Pakistani side.

But, when the Indian Army is focused on counter-terror operations, the Pakistan Army was fast reducing its gap with Indian forces in fighting a conventional war, the intelligence sources said, adding Islamabad was also gradually increasing its missile regiments.

Military sources said modernisation of the Indian Army's armoured regiments was moving at a "snail's pace" due to procedural delays and the issue was being examined at a very high level of the government.

The sources said as part of the ambitious plan to significantly revamp its armoured fleet by 2025, Pakistan has decided to procure at least 360 main battle tanks from leading global manufacturers and produce 220 tanks indigenously with help from China.

The Pakistan Army's move to enhance its armoured corps comes at a time the Line of Actual Control in Jammu and Kashmir has witnessed growing hostilities, especially over the last one year. The Indian Army has been strongly retaliating to every unprovoked firing by the Pakistani side.

But, when the Indian Army is focused on counter-terror operations, the Pakistan Army was fast reducing its gap with Indian forces in fighting a conventional war, the intelligence sources said, adding Islamabad was also gradually increasing its missile regiments.

Military sources said modernisation of the Indian Army's armoured regiments was moving at a "snail's pace" due to procedural delays and the issue was being examined at a very high level of the government.

The Indian Army has also raised an independent tank brigade, which is stationed in Ladakh but it is not enough, the expert said.
 

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What's with this member continually regurgitating age-old news and eating up server space by creating new threads about it? This particular piece of news is from 2018, i.e, from 4 years ago. All of us now Porkistan's condition right now. Who in their right minds would think that the Porkis, who cannot even import medicine's right now, will import expensive western equipment (the Italian SPGs) in a time of extreme forex crisis? I request mods to delete this thread and serve an official warning to this member for such perfidy.

Link to 2018 news: Porkis import stuff in their dreams
 

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Pak wants T-90 tanks, Moscow holds the key
NEW DELHI: In a signal of changing times that could potentially sour India-Russia military relations, the Pakistan army is eyeing purchase of some 360 Russian-made T-90 tanks — the Indian Army uses the same tanks, that are produced under licence at Avadi, Tamil Nadu.


In a signal of changing times that could potentially sour India-Russia military relations, the Pakistan army is eyeing purchase of some 360 Russian-made T-90 tanks — the Indian Army uses the same tanks, that are produced under licence at Avadi, Tamil Nadu.

Moscow has, so far, not given its nod and New Delhi, has of course, been using its diplomatic heft to prevent such a purchase. Sources confirmed on Sunday that Pakistan has made a request to Russia for the T-90 tanks.

In the past, Pakistan has purchased Russian helicopters Mi-35, an attack copter, and the Mi-17, a transport copter. India objected both times since it uses the same equipment — nearly 65 per cent of India’s equipment comes from Moscow. A Pakistan-Russia defence agreement was signed in 2014.

The first hint of Pakistan wanting the T-90s came when in April this year its then Defence Minister Khurram Dastgir Khan was quoted by Russian news website Sputnik as saying, “We are interested in T-90 tanks and it is not going to be a one-time purchase but a long-term commitment.” The matter has progressed and now a serious bid is being made from Islamabad.

The former Director General of Military Operations (DGMO), Lt Gen Vinod Bhatia (retd), said, “I don’t think Russia will agree to such a request and they should not.” Former Western Army Commander Lt Gen KJ Singh (retd), who was in the Armoured Corps, felt

“it would be sacrilegious of Russia to agree”.

Pakistan’s swing away from the US is evident. It has been relying more on Chinese equipment in the past decade. Gen Bhatia said “since the US is no more giving aid and the Chinese equipment given to Pakistan is not the top-end of technology, the Pakistan swing towards Russia is visible”.

It is not that Pakistan will be able to challenge India, immediately. Gen KJ Singh said, “Even if Russia gives the tank, there will be a long gestation and training period.” Reminding of the past, he added, “Pakistan army’s much superior Patton tanks were felled by the Indian ‘Centurion’ tanks in 1971. It all depends on crew training.”

The Indian estimates are that Pakistan is looking to revamp its armoured fleet by 2025. This will include at least 360 tanks procured globally (T-90 is the chosen one so far), besides producing 220 tanks with help from China.

Islamabad inducting Chinese VT-4 tanks

  • Pakistan army is also in the process of inducting Chinese VT-4 and Oplod-P tanks from Ukraine. Trials for both conducted
  • India has 67 armoured regiments — 46 tanks in each — comprising mainly T-90, T-72 and Arjun tanks. The Pakistan army has 51 regiments — that include Ukrainian, Chinese origin tanks
  • Apart from tanks, Pak army is procuring 245 150mm SP Mike-10 guns from Italy, of which it has received 120
 

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I know it's a joke but we should sell them from our fleet of tincans, can offer them a good discount.
Hopefully they help Pakistan perform better than israel did in 2006 against a mere 1,000 insurgents kek
 

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Pak wants T-90 tanks, Moscow holds the key
NEW DELHI: In a signal of changing times that could potentially sour India-Russia military relations, the Pakistan army is eyeing purchase of some 360 Russian-made T-90 tanks — the Indian Army uses the same tanks, that are produced under licence at Avadi, Tamil Nadu.


In a signal of changing times that could potentially sour India-Russia military relations, the Pakistan army is eyeing purchase of some 360 Russian-made T-90 tanks — the Indian Army uses the same tanks, that are produced under licence at Avadi, Tamil Nadu.

Moscow has, so far, not given its nod and New Delhi, has of course, been using its diplomatic heft to prevent such a purchase. Sources confirmed on Sunday that Pakistan has made a request to Russia for the T-90 tanks.

In the past, Pakistan has purchased Russian helicopters Mi-35, an attack copter, and the Mi-17, a transport copter. India objected both times since it uses the same equipment — nearly 65 per cent of India’s equipment comes from Moscow. A Pakistan-Russia defence agreement was signed in 2014.

The first hint of Pakistan wanting the T-90s came when in April this year its then Defence Minister Khurram Dastgir Khan was quoted by Russian news website Sputnik as saying, “We are interested in T-90 tanks and it is not going to be a one-time purchase but a long-term commitment.” The matter has progressed and now a serious bid is being made from Islamabad.

The former Director General of Military Operations (DGMO), Lt Gen Vinod Bhatia (retd), said, “I don’t think Russia will agree to such a request and they should not.” Former Western Army Commander Lt Gen KJ Singh (retd), who was in the Armoured Corps, felt

“it would be sacrilegious of Russia to agree”.

Pakistan’s swing away from the US is evident. It has been relying more on Chinese equipment in the past decade. Gen Bhatia said “since the US is no more giving aid and the Chinese equipment given to Pakistan is not the top-end of technology, the Pakistan swing towards Russia is visible”.

It is not that Pakistan will be able to challenge India, immediately. Gen KJ Singh said, “Even if Russia gives the tank, there will be a long gestation and training period.” Reminding of the past, he added, “Pakistan army’s much superior Patton tanks were felled by the Indian ‘Centurion’ tanks in 1971. It all depends on crew training.”

The Indian estimates are that Pakistan is looking to revamp its armoured fleet by 2025. This will include at least 360 tanks procured globally (T-90 is the chosen one so far), besides producing 220 tanks with help from China.

Islamabad inducting Chinese VT-4 tanks

  • Pakistan army is also in the process of inducting Chinese VT-4 and Oplod-P tanks from Ukraine. Trials for both conducted
  • India has 67 armoured regiments — 46 tanks in each — comprising mainly T-90, T-72 and Arjun tanks. The Pakistan army has 51 regiments — that include Ukrainian, Chinese origin tanks
  • Apart from tanks, Pak army is procuring 245 150mm SP Mike-10 guns from Italy, of which it has received 120
They don't have the money for that!!! They are begging China to give loans or freebies for its weapons!!!
 

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They don't have the money for that!!! They are begging China to give loans or freebies for its weapons!!!
That's why they are considering T90. China never give freebies. Pakistan buying ssk, mbt, fighter jets, ships, missiles, sams etc from china worth 15 billion plus and ships/drone/helio/etc from turkey & EU, how ? becz pakistan military is not so pover like pakistanis and their generals more rich than ours. 5billion for 8 ssk, 4+4 boats, vt4s, j10, mbrls, atgm, jf17a, and upgrading old ones, drones, sams, attack helios, aews, helios etc and they are under gray list, on the other hand our forces modernisation going in snail phase.
PA acquired APS equipped tanks, full night fighting capability, armed drones, long range mblr, artillery, rifies etc and IA lack most of those and waiting for gov approval & deal complection for more than 1.7 decade.
 

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That's why they are considering T90. China never give freebies. Pakistan buying ssk, mbt, fighter jets, ships, missiles, sams etc from china worth 15 billion plus and ships/drone/helio/etc from turkey & EU, how ? becz pakistan military is not so pover like pakistanis and their generals more rich than ours. 5billion for 8 ssk, 4+4 boats, vt4s, j10, mbrls, atgm, jf17a, and upgrading old ones, drones, sams, attack helios, aews, helios etc and they are under gray list, on the other hand our forces modernisation going in snail phase.
PA acquired APS equipped tanks, full night fighting capability, armed drones, long range mblr, artillery, rifies etc and IA lack most of those and waiting for gov approval & deal complection for more than 1.7 decade.
What makes you think that Russia will give freebies to Pakistan? That will piss off India no end and push India further into the western camp.
 

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What makes you think that Russia will give freebies to Pakistan? That will piss off India no end and push India further into the western camp.
They're trying their luck, with some loan and exchange of goods, and russian equipment is better than chinese in warfare, and Russa only supply equipment rejected/removed by Indian forces or posses little threat to Indian forces. Pakistan tried to buy su 35 and now t90 only to cause issues with ino-rus relations. Russia supplied atgm, helios etc to Pakistan and IAF also uses them.
 

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Shows how efficient and effective their army functions at the cost of economy.
Also confirms that their own tanks are underperforming.
 

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Pak wants T-90 tanks, Moscow holds the key
NEW DELHI: In a signal of changing times that could potentially sour India-Russia military relations, the Pakistan army is eyeing purchase of some 360 Russian-made T-90 tanks — the Indian Army uses the same tanks, that are produced under licence at Avadi, Tamil Nadu.


In a signal of changing times that could potentially sour India-Russia military relations, the Pakistan army is eyeing purchase of some 360 Russian-made T-90 tanks — the Indian Army uses the same tanks, that are produced under licence at Avadi, Tamil Nadu.

Moscow has, so far, not given its nod and New Delhi, has of course, been using its diplomatic heft to prevent such a purchase. Sources confirmed on Sunday that Pakistan has made a request to Russia for the T-90 tanks.

In the past, Pakistan has purchased Russian helicopters Mi-35, an attack copter, and the Mi-17, a transport copter. India objected both times since it uses the same equipment — nearly 65 per cent of India’s equipment comes from Moscow. A Pakistan-Russia defence agreement was signed in 2014.

The first hint of Pakistan wanting the T-90s came when in April this year its then Defence Minister Khurram Dastgir Khan was quoted by Russian news website Sputnik as saying, “We are interested in T-90 tanks and it is not going to be a one-time purchase but a long-term commitment.” The matter has progressed and now a serious bid is being made from Islamabad.

The former Director General of Military Operations (DGMO), Lt Gen Vinod Bhatia (retd), said, “I don’t think Russia will agree to such a request and they should not.” Former Western Army Commander Lt Gen KJ Singh (retd), who was in the Armoured Corps, felt

“it would be sacrilegious of Russia to agree”.

Pakistan’s swing away from the US is evident. It has been relying more on Chinese equipment in the past decade. Gen Bhatia said “since the US is no more giving aid and the Chinese equipment given to Pakistan is not the top-end of technology, the Pakistan swing towards Russia is visible”.

It is not that Pakistan will be able to challenge India, immediately. Gen KJ Singh said, “Even if Russia gives the tank, there will be a long gestation and training period.” Reminding of the past, he added, “Pakistan army’s much superior Patton tanks were felled by the Indian ‘Centurion’ tanks in 1971. It all depends on crew training.”

The Indian estimates are that Pakistan is looking to revamp its armoured fleet by 2025. This will include at least 360 tanks procured globally (T-90 is the chosen one so far), besides producing 220 tanks with help from China.

Islamabad inducting Chinese VT-4 tanks

  • Pakistan army is also in the process of inducting Chinese VT-4 and Oplod-P tanks from Ukraine. Trials for both conducted
  • India has 67 armoured regiments — 46 tanks in each — comprising mainly T-90, T-72 and Arjun tanks. The Pakistan army has 51 regiments — that include Ukrainian, Chinese origin tanks
  • Apart from tanks, Pak army is procuring 245 150mm SP Mike-10 guns from Italy, of which it has received 120
And do they plan to pay for those with mujhra performances?
 

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India is Russia's largest Defence client, most of the Weopons sold by Russia is to India itself. Russia selling T-90 and that too in number of 600 to Pakistan seems highly unlikely. Russia will not want to piss us off by selling these many tanks to Pakistan.

Lastly wasn't Pakistan also planning on acquiring SU-35? What happened to that? Same is with this T-90 ka jhamela. (LOL)
 

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