Pakistan likely to secure civil nuclear deal with US: report

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Pakistan likely to secure civil nuclear deal with US: report
keep dreaming ,
first get those mig - 35 from russia then post bs,

interesting...... very interesting. i did not see that coming. but it was expected sooner or later, as india has a similar agreement and Pakistan does have the right for the same or similar agreement too i guess.
pakis have right for same agreement , bs
who said this ???
where this is written ??? in [edited] ???

well yes it does, nobody cares about who gave what to who. if the world is concerned about iran then they should have gone to pakistan. nobody mentions that pakistan gave iran tech. india's and pakistan's nuclear stance are the same therefore should be treated the same too.
lol pakis ,
india and pakis nuclear stance are same ???
pakis has to put up some fake drama on paper ,
but paki country is terrorist country ,
pakis deployed nuclear weapons during kargil war , this means their nuclear stance is not same as india is bs ,
those weapons are china made and pakis just painted them.
 
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does it matters??? China allready supplying them nuclear reactors for power plans officially. US want to tap that market too. no need to get hyper with anything paki gets.....they will still be paki n begging on world streets
 

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The deal will institutionalize Pak nuclear proliferation and its missile and nuclear weapons program.

Obama is a fool to even think about it.
What else can be expected from someone who is adviced by the Muslim brotherhood!
 

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Reported US-Pak nuclear deal not like the one with India
  • Yashwant Raj, Hindustan Times, Washington
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  • Updated: Oct 08, 2015 21:51 IST

The deal US is considering with Pakistan to limit its nuclear arsenal in exchange for free access to nuclear material and supplies is very different from the one it has with India.

The US proposal, as reported by Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, is to cap Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal and delivery systems, tying them to the defence needs regarding India.

In other words, the deal seems designed to cover Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal — the warheads — fissile material and production facilities, giving US access to them.

In return, the US will facilitate for Pakistan easier access to nuclear material and supplies from the 38-member Nuclear Suppliers Group, which doesn’t trade with non-NPT countries.

The US nuclear deal with India covers only civilian use facilities, opening them to international inspection. But it does not cover weapons and related processes at all.

Pakistan has been seeking a nuclear deal like the one US has with India, arguing for a “non-discriminatory approach on nuclear issues”, but hasn’t had any success, not until now, it seems.

Now, however, the US seems to be moving towards using Pakistan’s desire of a deal to cap its weapons programme and delivery systems that had long been an international concern.

The White House refused to confirm or deny the Washington Post column saying it doesn’t typically comment on internal discussions. But, implicit here, is the absence of denial.

The Post said talks have been on quietly between the US and Pakistan in the run-up to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s coming visit to the US to meet President Barack Obama later this month.

The columnist called the move a “diplomatic blockbuster”, but warned progress could be “slow and difficult” as “Pakistan prizes its nuclear program … and it’s not clear if Islamabad would be willing to accept the limitations that would be required”.

Pakistan currently has between 100 and 120 nuclear warheads in its arsenal, to India’s 80-100, but is projected to become the world’s third largest in a decade, based on its production targets.

The US and Russia have the largest stockpile with an estimated 1,600 each. France, China and UK are next with 300, 250 and 225 respectively.

A recent study by Carnegie and Stimson Center, both think tanks, suggested Pakistan could go up to 350 in a decade based on its estimation of India’s stock of fissile material.

Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal worries the world given its proliferation history, Abdul Qadeer Khan’s nuclear black-market, and growing presence of extremists.

But the current move comes, the Washington Post columnist said, in the context of bringing lasting peace to Afghanistan and in recognition of Pakistan’s role in it.

Pakistan is already one round of talks between the Afghanistan government and the Taliban, in Murree, which was to be the venue for the next round also, but then talks broke down.

Source: http://**********/threads/reported-...like-the-one-with-india.402095/#ixzz3o0CRm3jn
 

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Knowing Pakistan ability to read words from the recent uffa statement and abiding by rules, international laws and customs and also about sovereignty and proliferation (too many examples to list) it already by default is a failure. The deal with India was different since Pakistan wants to copy India but India planned and prepared (including dissenting reasons for pakis that mea has made).

I believe this is USA trying to get the pakis to perpetually point their weapons only to east and to India and within range of India only. Because Israel is and.cam be within range of Pakistan. That message of USA asking pakis to point the gun at India ain't good to read. That message of USA trying to use a international agreement and legal document with Pakistan to get them not to look at Israel is more interesting.

And Pakistan will not only have PRC (india) but USA (israel) to be a perpetual relation ... And from whom to keep demanding over and over again.

Why north Korea asked to have disarmed nuclear talks but pakis asked only to point one way ...

I also believe the Americans will place the brackets to be with conditions and that will open pakis up to a lot of problems. Because another point is the Pakis are able to point at Israel and also others (dirty bombs) and no international agreement can deny that. Too many examples where pakis not bother about rules and laws.

The approach by the Americans also opens up the Pakistan and its neighbours on its west to think in elaborate terms. Like the declaration of Mecca protectors and sunni lords and warriors. In a way this deal is USA acknowledge they messed up in their paki policy since Israel is a clear and direct threat from and by Pakistan ... Today and tomorrow. A civil nuclear deal is not the solution ... And I feel that is also in acknowlgement.
 
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US has signed or is in a verge of signing nuclear cooperation with 24+ countries , the only thing that matters here is what is there in those clauses . Nobody got equal treatment in those deals , it wouldn't be unfair to say that US nuclear deals with India , Japan and Euratom (Most of the European nations are represented here) got the best deals even China got pretty much what she wanted , the notion that US would sign a nuclear deal with Pakistan and give her the same terms as were given to India or China is preposterous to say the least . Even Iran got a nuclear deal from P5+1 nations ( JCPOA) which ended her PMD ambitions and clipped her wings for atleast 10 years .
 

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Yep, just like the way they dangled a carrot in front of desperate Indies but found themselves empty handed as they didn't get any export orders ten years since the deal was signed.

The 123 agreement practically killed the Nuclear apartheid and the double standards are for everyone to be seen. China and Pakistan took a good advantage
to justify the sale of new neactors and US couldn't do anything about it.
In the end India got what it wanted. Time to see what Pakistan gets from the USA.
 

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Tarek Fateh telling the story of Foundation of Pakistan lol enjoy simmer off
 

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pakistan can only talk about nuclear with USA if they stop supporting terrorism.


Pakistan most dangerous country for the world: ex-CIA official

A former CIA official has said Pakistan is probably the most dangerous country for the world as it is ripe with threats of terrorism, a failing economy and the fastest growing nuclear arsenal.


“While Pakistan is not the most dangerous country in the world, it is probably the most dangerous country for the world, and as such, a serious case for close and continued US engagement with Pakistan can be made,” Kevin Hulbert, a former top intelligence officer who retired in June 2014 , wrote in an op-ed in
The Cipher Brief.

“As a country ripe with the triple threat of terrorism, a failing economy, and the fastest growing nuclear arsenal, Pakistan has the potential to create more nightmare scenarios for US policymakers than any other country,” Hulbert said.


Hulbert previously served multiple overseas tours as CIA chief of station and deputy chief of station.



The CIA official went on to say, “Like it or not, Pakistan is similar to a bank or company considered too big to let fail because of the ripple effect it might cause across the entire economy.”



Read: US providing precision strike technology to Pakistan: Jilani


Claiming that the spectre of the sixth largest country in the world being a failed state is a hypothetical catastrophe that would unleash a world of unintended consequences, the ex-CIA official said, “Rather than risk it, and as much as we might like to move on, we really should increase the level of engagement with Pakistan, not decrease it.”



Hulbert said many of the trend lines in Pakistan now seem to be “moving in the wrong direction.”



“For years, Pakistan felt justified in its use of t militias to attack India in a war of attrition,” he continued.



However, Hulbert said, “The good news on Pakistan is that al Qaeda’s core in Pakistan’s troubled Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) is largely destroyed. The US government has decimated al Qaeda and its extremist allies in the Fata, and it is telling that none of Ayman al-Zawahiri’s named successors are located in Pakistan. It is also telling that in order to stay alive, Zawahiri has isolated himself to the point of being irrelevant. He cannot communicate with his followers, he provides no command and control, and it takes him weeks, sometimes months, to respond in any meaningful way to current events.”


Today, Pakistan finds itself in a very complicated security situation where there is little differentiation among radical groups, he noted.


“Terrorist groups, such as Lashkar-e-Taiba, are suddenly allied with al-Qaeda, while Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, the Pakistan Taliban, the Afghan Taliban, and other assorted miscreants and non-state actors are intent on bringing down the elected government of Pakistan,” he added.



This article originally appeared on The Cipher Brief.
:D


This is US way of SAYING "Hey Pakistan..You are next..how about a color revolution"
 

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Everyone in the world, US in particular, knows that Pakis are back-stabbing retards. They have also learnt that isolation does not work in most cases, but you can delay if not limit by engagement.

That is what Iran is about. Iran will have nukes, but the process would be delayed by a decade or so. This is what they learnt from N Korea.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-07-21/iran-nuclear-deal-has-north-korea-written-all-over-it

Now with Pakis, the intent has to be to limit their nuclear capabilities as much as possible or delay them. That's not a bad thing for us while we develop our capabilities freely including perfect our missile defense.
 

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Richard armitage also had said that Pakistan would be sent to cave man ages ...

Americans must have war gamed and tested such because such words do not come without reason. Sure distance helps and usa at arms reach but pakis are pakis and they won't forget such words and the next time a cave man threat is made they will show their contingency. Even Saddam was in contingency mood for short time and americans were prepared that time and even Saddam was close to usa at one points. Missiles , jets, equipment with range greater to scuds in paki inventory's. Even passport of pakis have colorful meaning - will such items be in brackets ??

In a way pakis have made Americans and western world deeply threatened by simple act of showing accommodation ... Because they have realised at any cost they get away with things. E.g. Richard headley is sitting in jail being fed meals and taken care by us tax payer money!! Pakis turn up all over europe and usa even with links that are not direct and easy. Its typical paki swindling. This civilian nuclear deal is impossible because Pakistan cannot point their guns only at India. They have had too much slapping and transactions for their own good. Pakis Viagra is not india anymore but its to its eastand north west ... And it is this Allah (from paki mind and constitution) they beleive in and its gift to the world. America failed in its Pakistan policy and the faster it realises it is playing double game harming it's and western interests the better. PRC will learn but and they won't sit quietly when they do. Pakistan simply cannot be used against india only. It is another story if others are playing a charades with pakistan and giving them false and planning their denuclearization . Iran also must have demanded such before entering into nuke agreement why would they accept pakis being Islamic nuke proetectors and threats to its own. the pakis have had too much time and chance to go the right and proper way.
 
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if this deal restricts mad pakis from developing advance range nuclear capable missiles and use nuclear fuel to produce electricity and deterrent war-heads, rest assured Jaheel Shareef will definitely reject it. :bplease:
 

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No it doesn't. India didn't proliferate nukes. Pakistan armed Iran and North Korea with nukes.
Sir, i googled but cannot find solid article or leads that point, Pakistan armed Iran with nukes, though i have read that Pakistan has help N Korea in the form of scientist, but can the same thing be said about Iran ? does Iran took help from Pakistan in developing their nuclear program ?
 

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Sir, i googled but cannot find solid article or leads that point, Pakistan armed Iran with nukes, though i have read that Pakistan has help N Korea in the form of scientist, but can the same thing be said about Iran ? does Iran took help from Pakistan in developing their nuclear program ?
I don't think Pak helped them as a state as they would not help Iran given SA's rivalry with Iran. It was non-state actors and AQ Khan who sold himself to Iranians.
 

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The deal will institutionalize Pak nuclear proliferation and its missile and nuclear weapons program.
Obama is a fool to even think about it.
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the next step is already here http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/12/w...issile-possibly-violating-nuclear-accord.html

then putting them together will be the attack on israel and the beginning of the next
major international world war


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well yes it does, nobody cares about who gave what to who. if the world is concerned about iran then they should have gone to pakistan. nobody mentions that pakistan gave iran tech. india's and pakistan's nuclear stance are the same therefore should be treated the same too.
Paki dream of being at-par with India will remain just that, a WET-DREAM.

In which Bakistan can match India ?? Economy, Military, Technology, Industry, Population, Education, Growth and the list goes on....
 

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Yep, just like the way they dangled a carrot in front of desperate Indies but found themselves empty handed as they didn't get any export orders ten years since the deal was signed.

The 123 agreement practically killed the Nuclear apartheid and the double standards are for everyone to be seen. China and Pakistan took a good advantage
to justify the sale of new neactors and US couldn't do anything about it.
We have not bought even a single reactor from USA we sigh the deal to import uranium from Australia,France,......India has sufficient nuke to make Pakistan piss .we need reactor power production not for nuke warhead .we consider Pakistan as an upstacle not as an enemy .but Pakistan act like mad man who is ready to kill him self to kill his enemy . I feel sorry for you and your country man who are preparing your self for next slavery .one deference this time it will be Chinese who will be your master .
 

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