Pakistan fakes Babur missile test

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When Indians put the facts before you all became sober.

All you inflated air is leaked after making tall claims of nuclear patrols using french submarines. Now you agree that there are repercussion disclosing the name of the Submarine.

Licence: You know "tatti" about being able to licence produce French submarines. Your Navy wouldn't have spit on China for submarines if you could have been able to mass produced Augusta. Please stop being absurd.

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@sayareakd . I am not quite sure but but I think I have seen the second frame of the video of red colored Cruise Missile flight making land fall/crossing the beach before. Please dig it out if anyone of you have seen it before. I could be totally wrong.

The Babur-3 SLCM Bakwaas Exposed
On January 9, 2017 the following press-release was released by Pakistan’s ISPR (and curiously not from the PN):

https://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/main.asp?o=t-press_release&id=3672#pr_link3672

From the contents of this press-release, it can safely be deduced that the cruise missile, a member of the Hatf-7 family, has a wingspan of 3.1 metres, length of 6 metres, diameter of 0.514 metres, and a mass of 900kg. Range of this SLCM has been claimed to be 450km, although it can attain 600km when carrying a 300kg warhead. The press-release’s contents need to be dissected, since they provide some pretty interesting insights into what is really at play here.

Firstly, it has been claimed that the maiden test-firing of the Babur-3 SLCM was conducted from an underwater, mobile platform that was located at an undisclosed location in the Indian Ocean. This test-firing, hailed as a 100% successful effort, was witnessed by the Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (CJCSC) General Zubair Mahmood Hayat, DG Strategic Plans Division (SPD) Lieutenant General Mazhar Jamil, and the Commander Naval Strategic Force Command (NSFC). Notable absentees from this event were the PN’s Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Muhammad Zakaullah, and Shahid Nabeel, Chairman of the National Engineering and Science Commission (NESCOM)—a state-owned entity that owns the National Defence Complex, the industrial entity that has reportedly the Hatf-7/Babur family of cruise missiles. Short video-clips of this alleged test-firing () showed a cruise missiles breaking a water surface and adopting a shallow trajectory in elevation (meaning it was launched from a torpedo-tube and not a VLS cell), then cruising over land and finally hitting its designated target area somewhere in the vicinity of Balochistan’s Ras Koh mountain range.

Now, if the Babur-3 was indeed launched from a SSK belonging to the PN—and the PN has only three Agosta 90B and two Agosta 70B SSKs all of which are equipped with the THALES-supplied SUBTICS combat management system—then the fire-control system servers required for computing and transmitting the firing solution for/to the encapsulated Babur-3 would have to be integrated with the SUBTICS and the 533mm torpedo launch-tubes. This is an impossible task, given the fact that THALES does not share the operating source-codes of thre SUBTICS’ fire-control algorithms with anyone. Secondly, for the Babur-3 to have been fired from anywhere in the IOR and for the SLCM to reach Baluchistan, NOTAMs would have had to be issued at least 10 days in advance for clearly identifying the flight-path trajectory and cruising altitude for both airmen and merchant mariners. This was NOT done. Thirdly, as the video-clip shows, the test-firing was initiated from a submerged vehicle in clam waters (i.e. shallow waters), following which the SLCM cruised over a vast landmass, meaning the Babur-3’s entire flightpath was well within Pakistan’s territorial; waters and airspace. Lastly, the PN does not possess any naval vessel equipped with long-range precision-tracking radars, which is a prerequisite for any navy that is involved in test-firing land-attack cruise missiles. Therefore, all this brings us to only one conceivable conclusion:

The test-firing was initiated from a submerged Type 093 Shang-class SSN (that had left its homeport at Yulin in Hainan Island in the third week of December 2016) located well inside Pakistan’s territorial waters, and the SLCM fired was of 100% Chinese origin. Furthermore, this SLCM’s westward flightpath first along Pakistan’s coastline and then into western Baluchistan was ideal for the NESCOM’s missile trajectory-tracking sensors located at the Sonmiani Flight Test Range in Sindh province. All this also ties in well with the Naval Strategic Force Command’s inauguration in 2012, and the commissioning of a VLF communications facility—PNS Hameed—on November 15, 2016.


http://trishul-trident.blogspot.in/2017/01/a-not-so-silent-war.html
 

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Those HD videos are not for public viewing.
For press releases ISPR always releases poor quality videos, it's normal ISPR procedure.

Color scheme for land version has white stripes on sides.
View attachment 12942

So if the missile side is facing towards you, obviously you will see white not red.
From top it is red and that is visible when shown from a higher vantage point.
At the time of launch and before impact, obviously the missiles side will be facing the camera, that in conjunction with sunlight reflection shows the change of color you are having problem with.
Although the color scheme for submarine version can be altogether different. We will have to wait and see. More pics will eventually surface.
here is the color scheme of missile

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Missile shown in the middle angle has more red than earlier one. You can see hint of white line.

Post the NOTAM and the area where it was tested.
 

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#Pakistan successfully test fired first Submarine launched Cruise Missile Babur-3. Rg 450 Km. #COAS congrats Nation and the team involved.

I will post the video of test soon
Begger Pakistan successfully test first chinese given Submarine Crusie Missile launched.
 

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can also be an exocet missile SM39 on Agosta 90B (Khalid) class submarines later coupled with other videos which explains the color change and on and oh the classic geeni technology :biggrin2::biggrin2:

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Begger Pakistan successfully test first chinese given Submarine Crusie Missile launched.
will take about 5 years before first of the 8 ordered deliver to pakistan......
 

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Now that it is submarged platform, next question is was it vertical launch or submarine torpedo tube launch??
 

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this ISPR reporting is also false check this

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Now lets draw measurement from Indian Ocean

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shows 2361 kms to Pakistani coast line.

Since the target was close to mountain, first we need to find country in Indian Ocean with mountain and then we have to calculate 450 kms. :scared2::scared2::hail::hail::hail:
 

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Warning to all members whose posts have been deleted. If I notice any further trolling, I will consider issuing infractions that will result in posting restrictions.
Can you point what was trolling in my post? It was clearly propaganda video stitched together showing different missiles. All i asked was to give pakis infraction when even kids can watch and make out fake-ness of posted videos. Was I abusing any paki member or what?
 

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Can you point what was trolling in my post? It was clearly propaganda video stitched together showing different missiles. All i asked was to give pakis infraction when even kids can watch and make out fake-ness of posted videos. Was I abusing any paki member or what?
A Pakistani member was issued a temporary ban, but you were not. Be thankful I am being more lenient with you. Don't act over smart, or you will go down the same path.
 

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i must say Pakistan is tough country, last time they tested 5 or 6 nukes on Mountain and that SOB was still standing, now they used flag for the test and the flag was still standing when so called missile has hit it, it dont appears to have dont use any explosive.........:scared2::scared2:
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Those HD videos are not for public viewing.
For press releases ISPR always releases poor quality videos, it's normal ISPR procedure.

Color scheme for land version has white stripes on sides.
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So if the missile side is facing towards you, obviously you will see white not red.
From top it is red and that is visible when shown from a higher vantage point.
At the time of launch and before impact, obviously the missiles side will be facing the camera, that in conjunction with sunlight reflection shows the change of color you are having problem with.
Although the color scheme for submarine version can be altogether different. We will have to wait and see. More pics will eventually surface.
this is in no way a poor quality video, wanna explain why ISPR released a good quality here ?
 

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i must say Pakistan is tough country, last time they tested 5 or 6 nukes on Mountain and that SOB was still standing, now they used flag for the test and the flag was still standing when so called missile has hit it, it dont appears to have dont use any explosive.........:scared2::scared2:
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even i have doubt on their nuclear tests....

one nuke of 20kt can vaporize a island ...and they conducted 6 of 40kt each.... even if they conducted it appears to be a fusslly fusssss...
 

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