Pak Journalist banned from leaving country over "Pak isolation" article

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Ek toh journalist , uppar se christian. .... soon u will see him posting anti india articles...that's how people like hamid mir , wajahat saeed khan changed.

Btw this is called action!,,, BJP has done nothing against presstitutes. ..
 

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Ek toh journalist , uppar se christian. .... soon u will see him posting anti india articles...that's how people like hamid mir , wajahat saeed khan changed.

Btw this is called action!,,, BJP has done nothing against presstitutes. ..
i know that hamid mir got shot and then he became alright as per Paki expectations..
just curious, wajahat saeed khan was neutral once upon a time is it? share a article or video where he appears neutral...
 

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I don't buy this at all. It's another false flag op. Dawn is as military/ISI as they come. They are a more of a mouthpiece to the mil establishment than NYT is to unkil. Dawn broke the story about Act against Terrorism or face isolation, with the aim of creating a buzz about pakis getting serious about fighting terrorism, but it was laughed off. Now they're trying to lend credibility to the story by raising the stakes higher, but their feeble attempt is another display of amateur gaming. Sorry, cover up fail.

Cyril is no friend of India. Here's a recent article where he states that #Uri was a false flag
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The India problem
CYRIL ALMEIDA — PUBLISHED SEP 25, 2016 01:17AM

TRY this one for a conspiracy theory. Two months ago, on July 8 to be precise, the Indians did something stupid in the Valley: they killed Burhan Wani.

Stupid not because Pakistan says so, but because many Indians themselves did: killing a charismatic 22-year-old who had stirred up Kashmiris was a recipe for unrest.

And unrest is what India got. An own goal had been scored.

What happened next was also fairly predictable: India went into repression mode. Compounding the original error, it used disproportionate violence against civilians and made a mess of things there.

Curfew was imposed. The state of India was sucked back into a familiar cycle of repression and violence in held Kashmir. The people wouldn’t back down; the state wouldn’t relent.

All right, but where’s the conspiracy theory, you’re wondering.

The state of India had an advantage that the people of Kashmir didn’t: much of India didn’t care about the violence and the outside world sure as heck didn’t — contrary to what we were being told here in Pakistan.

Sure, the human rights lot and the Kashmiri diaspora had shone a light on abuse and repression by Indian security forces and that had started to attract international media attention at the fringes, but it was nothing remotely alarming for India.

As for Pakistan’s efforts to internationalise the issue, the derision with which the parliamentary junkets to foreign capitals was met with pretty much summed up the effort: desultory, weak and embarrassing.

Now, look away if you’re easily disorientated by theories other than what the state propagates.

Two months of unrest in reaction to Indian repression had created a dilemma for the anti-India non-states here.

India was getting away with murder, literally, and India wasn’t being forced to pay. Violence in response to violence is the non-states raison d’être.

What the hell kind of jihadi outfit are you if you don’t act when India is on the rampage against Kashmiris?

And violence by the Indian state is also a recruiting tool, especially if you can amp up the outrage here in Pakistan at Indian atrocities against Kashmiris.

Plus, the world’s attention needed to be focused and there’s only one way for the world’s attention to focus on Pakistan and India: the threat of war.

Put all of that together and you have the makings of a spectacular attack.

Like, y’know, Uri.

That’s madness, you’re thinking. A two-bit conspiracy theory. What the hell was the advantage to Pakistan?

Even well-meaning folk here have had trouble digesting the possibility. But then they also have long had trouble digesting the value of non-states to begin with.

There is, of course, a straightforward way to separate conspiracy from fact. The Uri attackers were either Pakistani or they were not.

India has the bodies and those bodies are tied to families, handlers and networks that exist either here or over there. Identification is not only possible it is inevitable.

And you can bet the Indian and Pakistani intelligence apparatuses — and probably of a handful of other countries — already know the attackers’ identities.

Attacks and their aftermath usually unleash a torrent of intelligence that is impossible to miss.

Handlers have to coordinate. The families have to mourn their dead. The networks have to eulogise the act. Fellow jihadis have to dissect the operation and marvel at their brethren’s bravery and success.

If Uri was not done by Pakistanis, then India has managed an even more spectacular own goal. It would mean a new generation of armed and trained insurgents to contend with.

And it would mean that India’s raging against Pakistan has drawn the world’s attention, however briefly, towards what India is doing to Kashmiris.

But if Uri was done by Pakistani non-states…

In truth, it would be more depressing than frightening. Not frightening in a peculiar Pak-India sense because already we’ve shown that we can get away with it.

Because what, really, can India do about it? A rageful India can threaten war, but that only brings the outside world rushing in to counsel peace.

Plus, in a hard-nosed way, would India go to war with Pakistan — a Pakistan with an explicitly lowered nuclear threshold — over a handful of dead soldiers and citizens?

As India rises, a two-and-a-half-trillion dollar economy paired with global ambitions, its pain threshold will also rise — what is worth losing all of that over will become progressively higher in the next decade or so.

And if India does decide to double-down on stirring up mischief inside Pakistan, nothing like it. Few things would enthuse the boys here more than hunting down some India-lovers doing harm to the homeland.

The counterterrorism infrastructure is anyway in full-blown expansion mode because of the fight against the anti-Pak militants. And an endless war would extend the boys’ internal predominance.

So not really that frightening in the peculiar way that is India-Pak.

But depressing because of the circularity of it all. A security state with an insecure worldview. An India obsession that is fed by India’s own antics.

A Kashmir dispute that we refuse to be pragmatic about and which India gives us a reason to not be pragmatic about.

A democratic transition too weak for the civilians to influence foreign policy or national security, but weak enough to not invite a military takeover that could place a peace-making general at the helm.

So, yeah, God bless the Kashmiris. Fire and brimstone on the Indians. But feel sorrow for Pakistan and Pakistanis — you and me, the regular folk.

Conspiracy theories or facts, all we have is the knowledge that, either way, we get hurt.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1285901/the-india-problem
 

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There are no sane Bakis when it comes to India. Even dhimmis like Almeida are jihadi (either by choice or force) when it comes to taking a stand against India.
 

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WATCH: Pakistani Girl’s video on questioning the role of Military in Terrorism goes Viral

The relationship between India and Pakistan has been strained over the past month after the Uri attacks that killed 19 Indian soldiers. In retaliation, the Indian Army announced that it carried out surgical strikes on seven launch pads along the Line of Control. At the United Nations General Assembly, India made its stand against terrorism very clear and even pointed out Pakistan’s role in terrorism.

Amid the ongoing situation, a rather old video of a Pakistani girl questioning the role of military in terrorism during what looks like a conference has gone viral on social media. The video, uploaded by Viral in India on October 10, has been shared massively and already has over 800,000 views. Though it has been uploaded by various other YouTube accounts now.

The girl starts by saying that she is surprised to realise that they have spoken on terrorism for over 10 minutes but not once have they mentioned military. “We should try and learn from our history and the history of terrorism in Pakistan is linked with military,” she says.


 

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there are so many Christians in Pakistan with Arabic names ......................that means missionaries are very active in Pakistan & they are converting Muslims ?? few days ago there was an article in dailymail about rape of a christian Girl Jameela in-front of her brother Arif .............according to that article 4% population of pakistaan is christian .

is it true ??
 

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