PAF wants to buy Chinese stealth aircraft: minister

[anoop_mig25]

how its comparable to US F-35 ????

USA had spent a lot on it even then it still in project stage

 

[Free Karma]

how its comparable to US F-35 ????

It seems to have a few issues at this point.
China's FC-31 Fighter Disappoints in First Display | Defense: Aviation International News

 

[sgarg]

Quite a jahil comment coming from you.
Didn't expect that.

I have not seen anything of substance from you so far. Can you quote EVEN ONE intelligent comment on this board from you.

I see only unabashed propaganda from you.

I does not matter what Indians think of Pakistan. Your country will be finished in the next six years. There will be no Pakistan after six years.

My advice to you - forget about fighters and fix your country.

 

[sgarg]

When India launches a satellite into orbit, the British media talks about India's poverty.
Looks like we are doing the same about Pakistan.
Sure, Pakistan has its problems, but why can we not focus on the topic? Every thread by @Neo becomes a slugfest and people tend to gang up against him.

The situation is very different. The satellite cost is recovered by sale of services. The cost of fighter is total waste.

When British media criticizes an Indian satellite launch, it shows its ignorance.

India has a modest military budget which balances different needs of the society. The country is not obsessed with its military.

Cannot say the same for Pakistan.

 

[Singh]

Singh.... Read the following paper carefully. J-31 and J-21 is a useless effort to beat the American F 22 or F35 or Russian PAK-FA. But the Chinese have too much cash and huge of documentation, stolen without the neccassry technological and manufacturing techniques. Also American & Russians are not ready to share the metallurgical behind their technology.



India's fears floods and landslides from Tibet dam Wed, Nov 26, 2014 NATO establishes a fleet of multirole tanker transport fleet Wed, Nov 26, SOURCE : IDRW NEWS NETWORK ( INN )

China's Second Stealth fighter aircraft Shenyang J-31 or FC-31 developed by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation came under Heavy Criticism from non other but from its own General . one of the official commentators of People's Liberation Army's (PLA) Admiral Zhang Zhaozhong instead of making tall claims of the fighter aircraft , took pot shots at the whole J-31 fighter aircraft program . Zhang told the state-run People's Daily newspaper that the J-31 was never built with China's military in mind and also dismissed Internet rumors that Chinese Navy is considering development of aircraft carrier variant of J-31 for use from future Chinese aircraft carriers . He also cleared that Objective of J-31 is to position Chinese fighter aircraft in Export market for those who cannot afford Expensive Stealth fighter aircrafts like American made F-35 or Russian made Pak-Fa . In his own words He described J-31 has a low Cost, low-end stealth fighter primarily designed for export like JF-17 which was also designed to replace older Soviet Mig-21's and which was never used by its own air force . Zhang also made stunning observation that J-31 is too heavy for aircraft in its class and also questioned use of older Russian RD-93 in the aircraft , same engine is also used by Russia's MiG-29 fighter aircraft which was developed way back 30 years ago . China plans to offer J-31 with two engine option Russian provided RD-93 engine which is also used by JF-17 or the WS-13 engine developed from the RD-93 . Since Pakistani JF-17 are still using Russian provided RD-93 and not the Chinese copy WS-13 it indicates that the engine is not fully operational nor it is capable to be used has a regular engine due to presiding technical problems it is still facing and Recent order placed by China for more RD-93 engine from Russia only further cements this claims of unreliability of WS-13 engines . Zhang too in his speech made reference to limitation of Reverse engineering of Engines and How China is yet few years away from mastering complex engine technology and why it is still depended on Russian engines for its domestic fighter aircraft programs . In Zhuhai Airshow Chinese media declared that Pakistani is very much interested in J-31 Fighter aircrafts and might be first Export customer for the same fighter . Well when it comes to Pakistani Military establishment any thing which comes with " Friendly Price tag " or with Never ending " Soft loan " are always welcomed with open arms , idrw.org had confirmed in past how Pakistan couldn't even afford to Purchase fourth generation J-10 fighter aircrafts from china . China literally had to make excuse that J-10 has Export Ban and was not cleared by Chinese Government authority to stop Pakistani advances for Friendly Payment terms for Purchase . Are we also forgetting Pakistani air forces phobia of not operating Twin engine fighter aircrafts since it not only raises Operational and Manpower cost but also contributes to Higher fuel cost while providing same level of flight hours to its pilots . Even if Pakistan do end up buying J-31 , numbers put forward by media is only of 36-40 aircrafts which will be little over Two Squadrons , not enough to Change Air power Superiority in the region since India's has its own plans to Induct 150+ FGFA / PAk-FA along with 126 French built Rafales . Many Western analyst have said that prospects for the J-31 jet's export market are not as positive as many in Chinese media has described. Countries with stronger economies, bigger defense budgets

Copied from idrw.org Why India shouldn't be concerned about Chinese J-31 Fighter aircraft | idrw.org

Shoddy reporting from your source. These comments were made in 2013 PRC's Avic Plans To Expand Export Markets | Defense: Aviation International News

Please get yourself uptodate from here - https://medium.com/war-is-boring/chinas-stealth-fighter-could-get-a-lot-better-7fa16ad578fb

 

[Illusive]

Well PAF at one point or another has to buy new aircraft, capable aircraft. I think a 5th gen programme needs a lot of money involved and if pak is ready to put some, then good for them. But i think they should stick to 4.5 gen aircrafts(J10s would have considerably evolved) with stealth UCAV as a good option.

 

[Hari Sud]

Singh


The paper you recommend is hardly a reliable paper. Moreover it discusses the mock up of the Chinese Stealth Fighter, with much of the discussion on model than on a real plane.

Hence the original comments of the Chinese admiral stand.

There is a long time before not so smart copy called j-31 flies to become a formidable aircraft. First they have to build an engine, then improve the frame and last if all reliable weapons it is going to carry.

 

[Singh]

Singh


The paper you recommend is hardly a reliable paper. Moreover it discusses the mock up of the Chinese Stealth Fighter, with much of the discussion on model than on a real plane.

Hence the original comments of the Chinese admiral stand.

There is a long time before not so smart copy called j-31 flies to become a formidable aircraft. First they have to build an engine, then improve the frame and last if all reliable weapons it is going to carry.

Sir,

Please add @ symbol before username to mention/notify someone

It is not a paper, but a blog.

In the current 2014 airshow a new model of J-31 was unveiled. This is an improved version of the flying prototype about whom the comments were made last year (but published this year by idrw).

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Also please read this :

China vs. America in the Sky: A Stealth-Fighter Showdown Is Brewing | The National Interest

I am not able to quote it here.