Opinion Su-57 MMRCA choice over Rafale ????

[Ayushraj]

Why to prefer su -57 . When we are ongoing with our amca.
Remember what happened to hal marut.
Su57 is heavy category plane . We already have 15 squardron of su-30. Our forces lack in lightweight plane(means mig21 are going to retire whose requirement would bbe fulfilled tejas.
If we purchase su57 our budget in amca would be cut down.

 

[Pig benis on sushy]

Neither west neither Russian are gonna give tot to India keep that in mind Rolls Royce can guide or assist but never give tot the engine in su57 are inferior to any western counterpart along with service and barley manages to come in at 5 gen other than paper . Aur never mind those a@@@holes saying jab AMCA ayega phir sab ke pass 6gen plane hoga ye aur porki jo 17gen pe udte hai. Nevermind be + about AMCA

 

[Longewala]

Su-57 better and more powerful AESA with GAN technology with 360 degree radar coverage
reduced RCS
internal bays
BVR with AESA seeker
In all aspects its better than rafale +Futuristic development scope that lacks in 4.5 gen rafale

The internal bays are super important
It's not just stealth Vs non stealth
It's A. stealth Vs B. partial stealth plus internal bays Vs C. External weapons

The gap between B (Su-57) and C (Su-derivatives) in terms of combat potential us huge

Especially if we combine Su-57 with the less stealthy but much superior electronic warfare capability of Rafale

 

[LegendaryR3D]

No.

Rafale will be last foreign fighter procured. Domestic aerospace industry is the future.

 

[Bleh]

Kinda like cutting off your own dick & then wearing a strap-on dildo!
Yeah it maybe might be bigger & better than what you had but not really worth the, hassle... And later you might regret the decision.

 

[Marliii]

Domestic is the way and already we have ordered rafales so ordering more is the most sensible option and su57 is not a good option for IAF. The russians are the most money sucking lice and any attempt at buying su57 is gonna delay AMCA.both west and russian try to to destroy our domestic industry but the ruskies act as if they have a monopoly on indian defence market.if ruskies are not selected they will stall and lobby the deal like k30 biho so no more russian or west shit.MMRCA 2.0 is necessary and IAF has already unofficaly do not want russian jets and want a western jet.

 

[Blank]

Kinda like cutting off your own dick & then wearing a strap-on dildo!
Yeah it maybe might be bigger & better than what you had but not really worth the, hassle... And later you might regret the decision.

Natural (cough indigenous) dick can grow larger over time. Through therapy, massage, Viagra all that shit. But once you have a plastic dildo as your front line asset. It's gonna forever. You are impotent for life. You have to keep changing it to suit your needs.

 

[Super Flanker]

Should we buy the SU 57 Aircraft?
-In my opinion, we should not buy an Aircraft like The SU-57.
Because already we are Developing AMCA( Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft) SU-57 has no hopes for being in Indian Airforce, it's fate was already decided in 2018 when we backed out of the FGFA project when we left it in 2018.
FGFA/SU-57 is a heavy weight Category Fighter Aircraft. We already have 240+ SU-30 MKI Aircrafts which are of Heavy weight category, and we don't want another such Aircraft in our inventory of such Category. Because heavy weight Fighter Aircrafts require a lot of Maintenance compared to Aircrafts of Medium and Light category.
Plus everyone knows The Track Record of These Russian Platforms already(I don't need to go into too much detail into it)
they are a nightmare to Maintain! So there is no hope that I see of SU-57 getting Inducted in Indian airforce. Better focus on AMCA and other Indigenous Programs to fullfil your requirements.

 

[Super Flanker]

But if you getting 5 th generation at price of 4.5 gen its better to stick to 5 th gen

Buddy, are sure about that? SU-57 and 5th Generation?let me be fair and Honest here. The fact is that the SU-57 is not a True 5th Generation Aircraft at all,it is at Best a 4++/4.5 Generation Fighter Aircraft with with a little less RCS than today's 4th Gen Aircrafts like F-18, F-16, F-15 but it has far more RCS as compared to Aircrafts like F-22 and F-35 from my personal opinion. There is no hope of India buying this Aircraft for any of its needs. It's just not gonna be good from my personal perspective.

Why to prefer su -57 . When we are ongoing with our amca.

Yes exactly, why SU-57 When you can fulfill your requirements by Indigenous programs like AMCA? It's just not a good thing to buy this plane.

 

[Trololo]

Only case where we might see a limited su 57 induction is if PAF inducts the J31 before 2030 in decent numbers.

 

[THESIS THORON]

Only case where we might see a limited su 57 induction is if PAF inducts the J31 before 2030 in decent numbers.

by that time pakis currency will be the weakest in the world, even behind somalia

 

[Super Flanker]

Only case where we might see a limited su 57 induction is if PAF inducts the J31 before 2030 in decent numbers.

Lol? You really think so that the Porkis will able to afford such an Aircraft in their inventory? considering the Situation of their Economy and how it's getting worse day-by-day, there is no way that they will be able to afford Aircrafts like J-31 etc. I don't see it happening anytime soon mate.

 

[Trololo]

Lol? You really think so that the Porkis will able to afford such an Aircraft in their inventory? considering the Situation of their Economy and how it's getting worse day-by-day, there is no way that they will be able to afford Aircrafts like J-31 etc. I don't see it happening anytime soon mate.

Not afford but given by iron brother.

 

[Super Flanker]

Not afford but given by iron brother.

Iron Brother??? hahahahahahahhahahahah....

 

[Super Flanker]

MMRCA is not going to happen.

Yeah. Same here. I too have the Same feeling that MMRCA won't happen.
I have a feeling that MMRCA 2.0 will have the Same faith as the Previous MMRCA tender

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[Dark Sorrow]

Not afford but given by iron brother.

Chinese are shrewd businessman. They don't give anything for free. They don't give aids they give loans and even while giving loan they force recipient country to give contract to Chinese companies.

 

[Dark Sorrow]

Only case where we might see a limited su 57 induction is if PAF inducts the J31 before 2030 in decent numbers.

Su-57 failed on stealth front, maintainability/serviceability front, lack of cutting edge avionics/technologies and bad engine when compared to western aircraft.

 

[THESIS THORON]

Su-57 failed on stealth front, maintainability/serviceability front, lack of cutting edge avionics/technologies and bad engine when compared to western aircraft.

YES, if they had developed it nicely, united nations af might have considered it, even if the competition is for medium role combat aircraft.

 

[Trololo]

Iron Brother??? hahahahahahahhahahahah....

Yep. Iron brother. Jets given in exchange for slavery. Why should China not strengthen its attack dog?

 

[Trololo]

Chinese are shrewd businessman. They don't give anything for free. They don't give aids they give loans and even while giving loan they force recipient country to give contract to Chinese companies.

Yes. In exchange for Pak's sovereignty.