North Korean nuclear crisis

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You have to be real careful when you are dealing with people that dont have anything to lose and you do. I expect the North Koreans like Iraq and Afganstan would be better off if they had a war with the USA. and they know it. We only sent a couple of F22 to S Korea, that should be enought to take care of the N Korea airforce.
 

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South Korean president vows 'strong' retaliation against North


South Korea's new president on Monday promised a strong military response to any North Korean provocation after Pyongyang announced that the two countries were now in a state of war.


President Park Geun-hye's warning came as North Korea's rubber-stamp parliament was set to hold its annual session and a day after ruling party leaders vowed to enshrine Pyongyang's right to nuclear weapons in law.

It also came as the US announced it had deployed stealth fighters to South Korea as part of an ongoing joint military exercise.

In a meeting with senior military officials and defence minister Kim Kwan-jin, Park said she took the near-daily stream of bellicose threats emanating from the North over the past month "very seriously".

"I believe that we should make a strong and immediate retaliation without any other political considerations if (the North) stages any provocation against our people," she said.

Park, a conservative who had advocated cautious engagement with the North during her election campaign, has been compelled to take a more hardline posture after assuming office in February.

The defence minister made it clear that the South would carry out pre-emptive strikes against the North's nuclear and missile facilities in the event of hostilities breaking out.

"We will ... establish a so-called 'active deterrence' aimed at neutralizing the North's nuclear and missile threats quickly," Kim said.

South Korean president vows 'strong' retaliation against North, US deploys stealth fighters - The Times of India
 

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South Korean president vows 'strong' retaliation against North


South Korea's new president on Monday promised a strong military response to any North Korean provocation after Pyongyang announced that the two countries were now in a state of war.


President Park Geun-hye's warning came as North Korea's rubber-stamp parliament was set to hold its annual session and a day after ruling party leaders vowed to enshrine Pyongyang's right to nuclear weapons in law.

It also came as the US announced it had deployed stealth fighters to South Korea as part of an ongoing joint military exercise.

In a meeting with senior military officials and defence minister Kim Kwan-jin, Park said she took the near-daily stream of bellicose threats emanating from the North over the past month "very seriously".

"I believe that we should make a strong and immediate retaliation without any other political considerations if (the North) stages any provocation against our people," she said.

Park, a conservative who had advocated cautious engagement with the North during her election campaign, has been compelled to take a more hardline posture after assuming office in February.

The defence minister made it clear that the South would carry out pre-emptive strikes against the North's nuclear and missile facilities in the event of hostilities breaking out.

"We will ... establish a so-called 'active deterrence' aimed at neutralizing the North's nuclear and missile threats quickly," Kim said.

South Korean president vows 'strong' retaliation against North, US deploys stealth fighters - The Times of India
ok so now he is saying snake byte me ...
 

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China places military on highest alert as Korean tensions escalate

China has started mobilizing military forces around the Korean peninsula in response to rising tensions that follow recent threats by North Korea to launch missile attacks against its southern neighbor and the United States.

According to US officials, Pyongyang's declaration of a 'state of war' against South Korea has led to the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) to increase its military presence on the border with the North. The officials say the process has been going on since mid-March, and includes troop movements and readying fighter jets. The PLA is now at 'Level One' readiness, its highest.

Chinese forces, including tanks and armored personnel carriers, have been spotted in the city of Ji'an and near the Yalu River, which splits China and North Korea. Other border regions were also reportedly being patrolled by planes.

China has also been conducting live-firing naval exercises in the Yellow Sea, scheduled to end on Monday. The move is widely viewed as open support for North Korea, which continues to show extreme opposition to the US-South Korean military drills that are to last until May.
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Re: North Korea Confirms It Conducted 3rd Nuclear Test

Yousuf, you are right on the money regarding the current stand off between the US-South Korea and North Korea. Pyongyang is going through one of the most vulnerable times in its history. In fact, the period immediately following the change of leadership in a dictatorship is its most vulnerable. And here we find the situation not different. And US and South Korea are exploiting it to the hilt. The odds are heavily stacked up against Pyongyang.
1. New, young and inexperienced leader.
2. Which means still simmering succession issues, refusing to die down.
3. Apart from the rhetoric of laying waste the US mainland, the weapons are still untested. Most they can hope for is to hit South Korea, unless China agrees to smuggle in some of its own missiles across the border.
4. Kim has to perforce keep the ante up, because any sign of weakness will foment domestic trouble.
5. This suits the Seoul-Washington axis because it can keep up the rabble rousing with minimal pin pricks.
6. China would be seriously concerned because it would fear the obliteration of its only ally in the Asia Pacific with its running border trouble with all others.
7. In the situation, India need to closely watch the developments, but refuse to get involved unless the conflict reaches a decisive turn.
 

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What do North Korea's air defenses look like?
Sure, North Korea is said to have one of the densest air defense networks on Earth. But it's largely made up of 1950s-, '60s-, and '70s-vintage Soviet-designed missiles and radars -- the type of weapons that the U.S. military has been working on defeating for decades via a combination of radar jamming, anti-radar missiles, and stealth technology.
Let's take a look at the missiles in the North's air defense system that have claimed U.S. fighters in conflicts around the globe since 1990.

SA-2 Guideline:The SA-2 was adopted by militaries around the globe during the Cold War and has a range of 28 miles and a maximum altitude of 28,000 feet.

SA-6 Gainful: The SA-6 is also a 1960s-vintage design (in service since the 1970s) that can be defeated relatively easily with modern jamming and missiles that lock onto the radar beams emitted by many surface-to-air missile batteries. Still, an SA-6 shot down a U.S. Air Force F-16 over Iraq in 1991 and another F-16 over Bosnia in 1996

SA-3 Goa: This is another Soviet-designed missile from the 1960s that has taken down a handful of modern U.S. fighters. The North is said to have up to 32 batteries of these missiles with at least six sites -- equipped with concrete bunkers to protect the missiles and their radar -- protecting Pyongyang (as of 2010, anyway). An SA-3 shot down a U.S. F-16 over Iraq in 1991.

SA-13 Gopher: SA-13s shot down two U.S. Air Force A-10 Warthogs during the 1991 Gulf War.

SA-16 Gimlets: The North Koreans reportedly have hundreds of these 1980s-vintage, shoulder-fired, heat-seeking missiles.

SA-4 Ganef: This is a fierce-looking, mobile system from the 1960s meant to shoot down high-flying bombers. The SA-4 has a range of about 34 miles and can reportedly reach altitudes of around 80,000-feet.

SA-5 Gammon: The North may have up to 40 batteries of this old design meant to shoot down high-flying bombers at long ranges.

SA-17 Gadfly: The SA-17 reportedly has a range of about 19 miles and an altitude of 46,000 feet. Both the missile launcher and its radar system are mobile, meaning they can try to hide from enemy bombers. The SA-17 system is used by lots of countries with fairly robust air defenses, such as China, India, and Iran (which reportedly developed a knock-off version). Georgia was able to down several Russian jets, including a TU-22M strategic bomber/reconnaissance jet, with SA-17s during the 2008 war there. Meanwhile, Israeli warplanes took out a convoy of Syrian SA-17s that were supposedly being shipped to Hezbollah in January.
 

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North Korea Threatens to Restart Nuclear Reactor
SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea said on Tuesday that it will put all its nuclear facilities — including its operational uranium-enrichment program and its reactors mothballed or under construction — to use in expanding its nuclear weapons arsenal, sharply raising the stakes in the escalating standoff with the United States and its allies.
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The announcement by the North's General Department of Atomic Energy came two days after the country's leader, Kim Jong-un, said his nuclear weapons were not a bargaining chip and called for expanding his country's nuclear arsenal both in "quality and quantity" during a meeting of the Central Committee of the ruling Workers' Party of Korea.

The decision will affect the role of the North's uranium-enrichment plant in the North's main nuclear complex in Yongbyon, north of Pyongyang, a spokesman for the nuclear department told the Korean Central News Agency. This marked the first time North Korea said that it would use the facility to make nuclear weapons. Since first unveiling it to a visiting U.S. scholar in 2010, North Korea had insisted that it was running the plant to make reactor fuel to generate electricity, though Washington suggested its purpose was to make bombs.

Saying "we will act on this without delay," the spokesman also said that North Korea will restart its mothballed nuclear reactor in Yongbyon. The 5-megawatt graphite-moderated reactor had been the main source of plutonium bomb fuel for North Korea until it was shut down under a short-lived nuclear disarmament deal with Washington in 2007. North Korean engineers were believed to have extracted enough plutonium for six to eight bombs — including the devices detonated in 2006 and 2009 in underground nuclear tests — from the spent fuel unloaded from the reactor.

It is unknown whether North Korea's third nuclear test in February used some of its limited stockpile of plutonium or used fuel from its uranium-enrichment program, whose scale and history remain a mystery.

A restarting of the reactor and weapons-producing role for its uranium-enrichment plant would add to growing American concern over the North's nuclear weapons program. The developments would mean that the North would now have two sources of fuel for atomic bombs - plutonium and highly enriched uranium - and could become more strident in demands.

In Beijing, the spokesman for the Foreign Ministry, Hong Lei, said that China, Pyongyang's main ally, felt "regretful" about North Korea's announcement.

"We have noticed the statement made by the DPRK and feel regretful about it," Mr. Hong said Tuesday at the daily briefing to reporter. China urged "all parties to remain calm and restrained," he said.

In Mr. Kim's speech before the party meeting, whose script was published in the North Korean newspaper Rodong Sinmun on Tuesday, he said that making the country's possession of self-defense nuclear weapons "permanent" was essential to ensuring that the country can focus on rebuilding its economy.

"Now that we have become a proud nuclear state, we have gained a favorable ground from which we can concentrate all our finance and efforts in building the economy and improving the people's lives based on the strong deterrent against war," Mr. Kim said. "We must now focus all our resources on building an economically strong nation."

Moving swiftly upon the party's "new strategic line," the country's atomic energy department said that measures were being taken to expand the North's nuclear deterrent, as well as to build an indigenous nuclear power industry to resolve the country's acute electricity shortage. The North's rubber-tamp parliament, the Supreme People's Republic, enacted a new law on Monday on "consolidating the position of nuclear weapons state," official media reported on Tuesday.

North Korea "shall take practical steps to bolster up the nuclear deterrence and nuclear retaliatory strike power both in quality and quantity to cope with the gravity of the escalating danger of the hostile forces' aggression and attack," the law said. It also said North Korea shall cooperate for "nuclear non-proliferation," depending on "the improvement of relations with hostile nuclear weapons states."

The North's new party line removed any lingering "ambiguity" over what North Korea might try to do with its nuclear weapons, said a senior South Koran government official, who briefed a group of foreign reporters on President Park Geun-hye's policy on North Korea on condition that he remain unnamed.

"We now know their real intention. The picture is clear. What we will do is the combined will of the international community," he said, adding that Seoul, Washington and their allies must employ "all means" of pressure on North Korea, including not only economic sanctions but also investigations into the North's human rights abuses. "They are depending on nuclear weapons for their survival but we must persuade them that there is an alternative and brinkmanship doesn't work."

North Korea demolished the cooling tower of the old Soviet-era 5-megawatt reactor in 2008 to demonstrate its commitment to the 2007 deal with Washington. In return, the U.S. State Department removed North Korea from its list of state sponsors of terrorism.

The deal, however, quickly unraveled over differences in nuclear inspections between Washington and Pyongyang. North Korea has since been making preparations to restart it as well as building a new reactor in Yongbyon, though officials here said the country was still months, if not years, from getting the old, decrepit reactor on line again.

More worrisome to them is uranium enrichment. North Korea publicly acknowledged enriching uranium in 2009, but American officials had suspected enrichment activity in the North as early as 2002. They fear that the enrichment plant unveiled in 2010 may likely be only part of a much bigger, harder-to-detect and more sustainable program to make nuclear bomb fuel.

North Korea is rich in uranium ores. Unlike the plutonium program, which included a large and easily spotted nuclear reactor, an enrichment plant composed of 1,000 centrifuges occupies a 60-square-meter space, small enough to be hidden in one of the estimated 8,000 tunnels North Korea has dug for military purposes across its mountainous terrain, South Korean military officials said.

The North's latest move marked the latest in a series of strident announcements from Pyongyang, which has been angered by efforts from the United States and its allies to use sanctions to rein in its nuclear and missile ambitions.

Despite a drumbeat of increasingly bellicose threats from North Korea, the White House said on Monday that there was no evidence that the country's leader, Kim Jong-un, was mobilizing troops or other military forces for any imminent attack. Though American officials said they remained concerned about the invective flowing from North Korea, the Obama administration took pains Monday to emphasize the ''disconnect'' between Mr. Kim's ''rhetoric and action.''

The White House's strategy, officials said, was calculated to ease tensions after a fraught few days in which Mr. Kim threatened to rain missiles on the American mainland, the United States responded by flying nuclear-capable bombers over the Korean Peninsula and President Park Guen-hye of South Korea ordered military commanders to carry out a swift and strong response to any provocation. ''We are not seeing changes to the North Korean military posture such as large-scale mobilizations or positioning of forces,'' said Jay Carney, the White House press secretary. ''What that disconnect between rhetoric and action means, I'll leave to the analysts to judge.''

Mark Landler reported from Washington, and Choe Sang-hun from Seoul, South Korea. Thom Shanker contributed reporting from Washington.
 

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US warship deployed off Korea coast
THE United States has positioned a destroyer off the coast of South Korea to defend against a possible missile strike, as the South vowed a strong response to any provocation from the North.

The USS Fitzgerald was moved to the southwestern coast after taking part in military exercises, instead of returning to its home port in Japan, a US defence official said.

The deployment came as North Korea's rubber-stamp parliament formalised the country's status as a nuclear weapons state and appointed a sacked economic reformer for a fresh term as prime minister.

At a meeting with senior military officials yesterday, South Korea's President Park Geun-Hye said she took the near-daily stream of bellicose threats emanating from the North over the past month "very seriously".

"I believe that we should make a strong and immediate retaliation without any other political considerations if (the North) stages any provocation against our people," she said.



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Defence Minister Kim Kwan-Jin made it clear that the South would carry out pre-emptive strikes against the North's nuclear and missile facilities in the event of hostilities breaking out.

"We will... establish a so-called 'active deterrence' aimed at neutralising the North's nuclear and missile threats quickly," Kim said.

The Korean peninsula has been caught in a cycle of escalating tensions since the North launched a long-range rocket in December, which critics condemned as a ballistic missile test.

United Nations sanctions were followed by a nuclear test in February, after which came more sanctions and apocalyptic threats from Pyongyang as South Korea and the United States conducted joint military drills.

Those threats have run the gamut from warnings of limited artillery bombardments to pre-emptive nuclear strikes, and have been met with counter-warnings from Seoul and Washington of severe repercussions.

The White House said that despite its threats, North Korea had yet to back up its words with mass troop mobilisations or troop movements.

"Despite the harsh rhetoric we're hearing from Pyongyang, we are not seeing changes to the North Korean military posture, such as large-scale mobilisations and positioning of forces," White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

In addition to the deployment of the USS Fitzgerald, the US military said it had deployed F-22 Raptor stealth fighters to South Korea as part of the ongoing "Foal Eagle" military exercise.

"The F-22s are advanced fighter aircraft and they're an important display of our commitment to the South Korean alliance," Pentagon spokesman George Little told reporters in Washington.

"The North Koreans have a choice. They can continue to engage in provocations, with bellicose, overheated, irresponsible rhetoric, or they can choose the path of peace," he said.

North Korea has already threatened to strike the US mainland and US bases in the Pacific in response to the participation of nuclear-capable US B-52 and B-2 stealth bombers in the exercise.

Yesterday's gathering of the North's Supreme People's Assembly, or parliament, was notable for the promotion of a former premier who was sacked in a reported backlash against his pursuit of economic reforms.

Pak Pong-Ju, 74, was unanimously returned to the post of prime minister, which he had previously held from 2003 to 2007, when he spearheaded modest economic reforms of state enterprises.

An apparent backlash from the party and the military saw him suspended from duty in June 2006 and sacked the following year.

The parliament also adopted an ordinance on "consolidating the position of nuclear weapons state for self-defence", KCNA said, fulfilling the party leadership's call a day before for the country's possession of nuclear weapons to be "fixed by law".

Sunday's gathering of the central committee of the ruling Workers' Party, which was chaired by leader Kim Jong-Un, had also insisted that the nuclear arsenal be beefed up "qualitatively and quantitatively".

On Saturday the North announced it had entered a "state of war" with South Korea and warned that any provocation would swiftly escalate into an all-out nuclear conflict.

It also threatened to shut down the joint-Korean Kaesong industrial complex, which is a crucial source of hard-currency revenue for Pyongyang and has been shielded from previous crises.

The border crossing to Kaesong, which lies 10 kilometres inside the North, was functioning normally yesterday.

The operating stability of the complex is seen as a bellwether of inter-Korean relations, and its closure would mark a clear escalation of tensions beyond all the military rhetoric.

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Well Chubby is not ready to blink yet. Oh well this may be his victory call saying he started a nuke reactor defying the evil imperialists and ask his forces to stand down. I don't see a way out for Chubby. South Korea has made it clear that it will not take even the shelling that the NoKoa did last time lying down if they did if again.
 

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Officials Warn: "North Korea Could Explode A High-Altitude Nuclear Device Over The United States"


North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un's rhetoric over nuclear weapons and the possibility of war with the United States and its allies makes almost no plausible sense considering that their long range missile capabilities are lacking and their military hardware is reportedly outdated when compared to the militaries of developed western nations




While the communist regime does have millions of soldiers at their disposal, the notion that North Korea will start and win a war against the U.S. seems outlandish.

So, either Kim Jong Un's recent actions are a part of internal posturing to keep the North Korean populace compliant through propaganda, or the young leader has been empowered by an ace up his sleeve that the North's enemies do not yet fully understand.

The idea that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea may have a secret weapon of sorts may sound far-fetched, but not everyone considers it an impossibility. With the U.S. deploying naval assets to the region and Chinese troops mobilizing en masse at the border, there is a distinct possibility that a military clash of some type is in the works.

In December of last year, the DPRK launched an orbital satellite, which left many wondering about its payload. Could it be that this 'space launch vehicle' is carrying astar wars type nuclear weapons package?

Some U.S. officials seem to think so, and they're sounding the alarm:

Two years ago the North Koreans detonated a nuclear weapon that experts claimed had such a low-yield it posed no significant threat. However, EMPact President Dr. Peter Vincent Pry has a different assessment. He suggests that, while the blast may have been weak, if detonated at high altitude over the United States, the gamma rays emitted are powerful enough to disable the national power grid across the lower 48 states.

According to experts, a blast of this nature detonated 300 miles above the state of Nebraska would be a life-as-we-know-it ending event:

"Within a year of that attack, nine out of 10 Americans would be dead, because we can't support a population of the present size in urban centers and the like without electricity."

This begs the question: Is it possible that the payload on North Korea's 'space launch vehicle' was actually a Super EMP, or electro-magnetic pulse weapon, that is now awaiting a 'go' signal from Kim Jong Un?

His arrogance certainly suggests he knows something we don't. And with fellow North Korean rogue ally Iran recently claiming that 2013 will be the fall of the American empire, maybe this time North Korea isn't just talking.

Super EMP weapons exist, and in all likelihood North Korea has such a weapon. They also have a space-based delivery system that may be capable of deploying it directly over the central United States.

Such a scenario is an outlier, but certainly not an impossibility.

Nuclear attack and electro -magnetic pulse weapons are two of the most dangerous man-made threats we face. Preparing for such an event is possible, but should it come to pass it would render all of our technological advancements over the last hundred years useless and would leave the United States no better off than a third-world nation.

An expert panel that Congress created to study such an attack says it would halt banking, transportation, food, water and emergency services and "might result in defeat of our military forces."

"The consequences would be catastrophic," said Joseph McClelland, director of the energy commission's Office of Electric Reliability.

"It would bring down the whole grid and cost between $1 trillion and $2 trillion" to repair, said Rep. Roscoe Bartlett, R-Md. Full recovery could take up to 10 years, he said.
It only takes one madman with his finger on the trigger to change the world.

One of these days someone's gonna' push the button.
Officials Warn: "North Korea Could Explode A High-Altitude Nuclear Device Over The United States" | Market Daily News
 

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Re: North Korea Confirms It Conducted 3rd Nuclear Test

BS! NoKo does not have missiles to reach the US nor does it have a warhead that can be tipped on a missile. It's really blowing hot and wanting to get some concessions but the US is not going to give any room for it to escape as I wrote yesterday on our main page.
 

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BS! NoKo does not have missiles to reach the US nor does it have a warhead that can be tipped on a missile. It's really blowing hot and wanting to get some concessions but the US is not going to give any room for it to escape as I wrote yesterday on our main page.
Chubby's advantage is that huge element of surprise. There is no yardstick against which anybody can measure what North will do next. Being a militarized society they have maintained that kind of advantage to the dismay of the South.
 

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Chubby's advantage is that huge element of surprise. There is no yardstick against which anybody can measure what North will do next. Being a militarized society they have maintained that kind of advantage to the dismay of the South.
Like I said in my article, this is a thought escalation by the US. It knows the capacity of the NoKos or the lack of it. NoKo may explode nukes in tests but they can't mount it on a missile and send it to California
 

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BS! NoKo does not have missiles to reach the US nor does it have a warhead that can be tipped on a missile. It's really blowing hot and wanting to get some concessions but the US is not going to give any room for it to escape as I wrote yesterday on our main page.
it doesn't matter whether California is within the range . SoKo is already being held as hostage that's what Chubby wants to achieve with all that noise· wait for the South's olive leaves

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