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Unless you go and bomb the camps nothing matters.

Cross border surgical strikes, drone bombings, Xinjiang level surveillance is need to kill an insurgency so that the next generation will never know an insurgency happened in Nagaland.
Insurgencies are like Hydra,you cut one,another one will grow in it's place.

The best way to end it is cut it's life line which is popular support by winning over the people. It was achieved in Punjab,Mizoram and to a large extent in Assam.

As i said heavy handed approach proves counterproductive.Neither the British military could quell the Irish troubles nor the US military could defeat the taliban insurgency.Both of them had to settle for negotiations.
 

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Quote: The police investigation had concluded that the three victims were ordinary labourers and had no links with militancy.

from the 1st article
You know what , even if they were ordinary people I have no sympathy for them. Kashmiris have become mere pests In the society. 99% of them support the insurgency and therefore deserve this. Who knows maybe these guy were pelting stones the other day on the army and CRPF.
 

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These disgruntled people are like Tikait Punjab farmers, more you appease, more they will escalate.

You need to work to wipe out any trace of this insurgency before the next generation open their eyes. With Chinese at the border, we don't have the luxury of time.
Rakesh Tikait is getting out of hand man. That guy needs to go. Yesterday he was asking for removal of farm laws, today he is agitating against Bank privatisation . Tomorrow who knows what he'll do.
 

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Insurgencies are like Hydra,you cut one,another one will grow in it's place.

The best way to end it is cut it's life line which is popular support by winning over the people. It was achieved in Punjab,Mizoram and to a large extent in Assam.

As i said heavy handed approach proves counterproductive.Neither the British military could quell the Irish troubles nor the US military could defeat the taliban insurgency.Both of them had to settle for negotiations.
We all know this incident will also die down soon. Issue is with the small portion who is giving unreliable HUMINT .

We need to go Xinjiang with a velvet glove. Once you turn someone's personal life upside down, everything falls in order.
 

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I am not sure if this is correct or not, because I did not find any other news commenting on this


BTW why did the mob attack Assam Rifles camp, if they didn't lay the ambush
is scroll.in a relaible source ? I seriously doubt it's credibility
it seems To be a bit left leaning
 

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We are ignoring the elephant in the room. The mission went sideways due to the fact that there was a lot of pressure on security forces to avenge the attacks on Col.Viplav and his family. India being caught in terms of reactions to events like the attack on Viplav and his family let's the enemy game our responses. So the pressure to deliver led the security forces to attack on whatever Intel was available. All of this could have happened in the first surgical strikes of 2015, then second surgical strikes of 2016 or even balakot strikes. When are we going to come out of this cycle of being always reacting to events rather than driving the events and letting the enemy react.

To defeat the insurgency in North East, we have to follow the approach of Sri Lankan army while dealing with the LTTE. And no, that didn't involve drones to bomb everything. It relied on well trained 4 man commando teams, good Intel, breaking the organization from within, and winning the hearts and minds of Tamils.
 

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You know what , even if they were ordinary people I have no sympathy for them. Kashmiris have become mere pests In the society. 99% of them support the insurgency and therefore deserve this. Who knows maybe these guy were pelting stones the other day on the army and CRPF.
Well then good luck with finishing the insurgency (if India ever does lol)
 

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This was a horrific incident which should not have happened and you are justifying this. If this will be the attitude Goodluck getting rid of the insurgencies.
What is your ideal solution I will like to hear. Intel failure is very organic thing it happens. None of us are justifying the killing of innocent but we are supporting AFSPA. I don't think Vampy here is advocating against the Naga population. Democratic process should follow and the Victims will be compensated with money, gov job, free education for children, monthly compensation for Old parents and a sincere apology letter from the government and armed forces. What else can we do we can't bring people back to life.
So easy to say from the comfort of your house,
Look into this in this perspective.
why do u think we are comfortable here at our home? Because we don't have an insurgent movement.
Why do u have insurgent movement in the first place have you asked yourself that?
 

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We are ignoring the elephant in the room. The mission went sideways due to the fact that there was a lot of pressure on security forces to avenge the attacks on Col.Viplav and his family. India being caught in terms of reactions to events like the attack on Viplav and his family let's the enemy game our responses. So the pressure to deliver led the security forces to attack on whatever Intel was available. All of this could have happened in the first surgical strikes of 2015, then second surgical strikes of 2016 or even balakot strikes. When are we going to come out of this cycle of being always reacting to events rather than driving the events and letting the enemy react.

To defeat the insurgency in North East, we have to follow the approach of Sri Lankan army while dealing with the LTTE. And no, that didn't involve drones to bomb everything. It relied on well trained 4 man commando teams, good Intel, breaking the organization from within, and winning the hearts and minds of Tamils.
NO NO , it's a very dangerous thing you're talking about . Sri Lanka approach will not work there. We have to cooperate with them and simultaneously fight the insurgents. We can't afford nagaland turning into Kashmir.
 

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This was a horrific incident which should not have happened and you are justifying this. If this will be the attitude Goodluck getting rid of the insurgencies.
Even locals aren't innocent at all. These people are hardcore Nagalim supporters. In nagaland you'll see travel guides and taxi drivers calling them freedom fighters
 

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Well then good luck with finishing the insurgency (if India ever does lol)
We never had a chance their to begin with, any state having radicalized religion other than that of Majority will break out into insurgency it was bound to happen. If say for a hypothetical situation the kutch region of Gujrat was 95% Christian it would have high chances of insurgency depending upon what Input it got from foreign elements.
The Ideal course of action will be to vacate Nagaland and give it Independence.

Demographic rules and thats the end of it all.

Anything else is coping mechanism.
 

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NO NO , it's a very dangerous thing you're talking about . Sri Lanka approach will not work there. We have to cooperate with them and simultaneously fight the insurgents. We can't afford nagaland turning into Kashmir.
That's what they did. The brutality and needless human rights violations of tamils should have been avoided at the end. It only created problems for Sri Lanka.
 

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Instead of easing on operations, now is the time to step up and wipe these scum!

Bomb their camps using drones, cross border surgical strikes and Xinjiang level social credit control.

In 1 generation, these insurgencies will disappear. Once again trace the missionaries and you will find 'insurgents' there.
 

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