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Automatic Kalashnikov

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Initially, Kashmiri handles claimed that these 3 were civilians


Later a tribute was released for the commander

These get removed quickly.

2 civilian were said to be killed in the hyderpora encounter. And 2 bodies were handed to their families and a magistrate enquiry was ordered
 

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2 civilian were said to be killed in the hyderpora encounter. And 2 bodies were handed to their families and a magistrate enquiry was ordered
That was a different encounter. 20+ terrorists have been killed since the non-Muslim teachers were killed.

The modus operandi is that irrespective of the truth, the first thing that comes out is the claim of "civilians".
 

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That was a different encounter. 20+ terrorists have been killed since the non-Muslim teachers were killed.

The modus operandi is that irrespective of the truth, the first thing that comes out is the claim of "civilians".
Some handles everytime claim that civilians have been killed in all encounters. But the hyderpora encounter was something different and an enquiry was ordered. And fake encounter or wrong intel based ops have unfortunately taken place in these sensitive areas in the past.
 

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Some handles everytime claim that civilians have been killed in all encounters. But the hyderpora encounter was something different and an enquiry was ordered. And fake encounter or wrong intel based ops have unfortunately taken place in these sensitive areas in the past.
And? Fake encounters are extremely unfortunate and rare. Such encounters need to be dealt with internally and if found guilty, the forces involved must be punished.

You can't stop normal encounters by showing 1 or 2 fake encounters as a reason.
 

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Look at the mob. I'm surprised that only 3 have been killed in the aftermath.

If the initial encounter turns out to be fake, the people involved need to be punished.

If you create a mob and attack the forces as the response, the forces have every right to shoot you.
 

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This is not good

Humans have the right to self-defense, and that includes soldiers.

You barge into the army camps with swords and try to attack soldiers wielding guns, what are you expecting, flowers and kisses?

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Internet and communications must be stopped and reinforcements rushed. Govt. must protect security forces while showing sympathy to civilians.
 

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Humans have the right to self-defense, and that includes soldiers.

You barge into the army camps with swords and try to attack soldiers wielding guns, what are you expecting, flowers and kisses?

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Internet and communications must be stopped and reinforcements rushed. Govt. must protect security forces while showing sympathy to civilians.
It seems they expect forces to throw away their guns and get lynched by the mob.
 

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And? Fake encounters are extremely unfortunate and rare. Such encounters need to be dealt with internally and if found guilty, the forces involved must be punished.

You can't stop normal encounters by showing 1 or 2 fake encounters as a reason.
I never said encounters need to stop. But for fake encounters action needs to be taken, last year and army captain and 2 of his aides for accused of planting weapons which resulted in the killing of 3 kashmiris who were termed as terrorists. And I don't think any action has been taken either against or for the captain.
 

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Humans have the right to self-defense, and that includes soldiers.

You barge into the army camps with swords and try to attack soldiers wielding guns, what are you expecting, flowers and kisses?

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Internet and communications must be stopped and reinforcements rushed. Govt. must protect security forces while showing sympathy to civilians.

Rahul and mamata are flaming the events
 

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Humans have the right to self-defense, and that includes soldiers.

You barge into the army camps with swords and try to attack soldiers wielding guns, what are you expecting, flowers and kisses?

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Internet and communications must be stopped and reinforcements rushed. Govt. must protect security forces while showing sympathy to civilians.

Paras shot the civilians alleged to be mine workers. Paras were present that means they were on some sensitive mission, maybe cross-border one.

What went wrong? Who provided botched intel?
Need for an internal inquiry. How a mission was compromised?

It seems that State is not supporting the troops, totally hand in glove with the civilians.

Next step will be removal of the AR camp from the said village.
 

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Paras shot the civilians alleged to be mine workers. Paras were present that means they were on some sensitive mission, maybe cross-border one.

What went wrong? Who provided botched intel?
Need for an internal enquiry.

It seems that State is not supporting the troops, totally hand in glove with the civilians.

Next step will be removal of AR camp from the said Village.
PARA SF's presence is confirmed?
 

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We’re fighting insurgency in NE since 1966, we can’t end an insurgency even in 55 years? Begs question when will all insurgencies be uprooted?
 

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I never said encounters need to stop. But for fake encounters action needs to be taken, last year and army captain and 2 of his aides for accused of planting weapons which resulted in the killing of 3 kashmiris who were termed as terrorists. And I don't think any action has been taken either against or for the captain.
Although you are correct, my opinion is forces require absolute immunity in such hostile areas, where the local population is against you. Such false accusations can be easily and maliciously slapped on anyone and the whole Kashmiri diaspora will whole-heartedly support the anti-Army narrative.

An army is a killing machine, it moves in, kills, and moves out. For civilian harmony, local police are there. Such incidents are unfortunate and part of anti-terror operations.


Rahul and mamata are flaming the events
At this point, the opposition is completely sold out. I fear what will happen if an allied govt. of Congress and other local parties take over the center. They will disband the army and sell pieces of land to Pakistan and China.
 

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