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I've thought about this a lot but I think the statement "Correlation does not imply causation" applies here.

1) Naxalism can only thrive in dense forests.

2) Dense forests also tend to be the areas with mineral wealth.

3) Tribals are also people who are the easiest to brainwash into a new religion.

I don't think it's some masterplan to stop India from accessing mineral wealth.
It's an easy plan to create. Anyone with Class 8 / 10 level geography knowledge of India can make such a plan.

True idiots are the civilian Babus who cannot make a decent fighting plans to crush such an insurgency.
 

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:hmm: i think *maybe* this will help vent some frustration

maybe AFSPA can tweaked or removed entirely.




killings like this will only fuel the insurgency.
AFSPA removal will fuel insurgency not quell it.
 

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I've thought about this a lot but I think the statement "Correlation does not imply causation" applies here.

1) Naxalism can only thrive in dense forests.

2) Dense forests also tend to be the areas with mineral wealth.

3) Tribals are also people who are the easiest to brainwash into a new religion.

I don't think it's some masterplan to stop India from accessing mineral wealth.
So the popular RW assertion is that Religion is the cause of some conflict in NE but the LW assertion is that it is mostly ethic driven.

Kashmir has a separatist problem which is rooted in the presence of Islam in the valley in the same way Nagaland has a separatist issue and what do we have here majority of nagas aren't from majority religion.

Religion is one of the factor if not the single biggest factor, implying otherwise is ingnoring the problem.
 

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What Nagaland intends to be is another Nepal to India except with a significantly different religion than Indian majority.

Is It acceptable to us?

They intend to fight till the last man for this.

What is our resolve.?
 

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AFSPA removal will fuel insurgency not quell it.
Not withdrawing it can prove even more disastrous......Many of us do not realize that the serious damaging consequence of this one event has done .It has undone nearly 30 years of hard won peace in Nagaland.
 

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What Nagaland intends to be is another Nepal to India except with a significantly different religion than Indian majority.

Is It acceptable to us?

They intend to fight till the last man for this.

What is our resolve.?
I don't think that option is on table. They have tried and have failed.
Let them befriend China and try again one more time. They shouldn't have regret in future that they didn't try enough.
 

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Not withdrawing it can prove even more disastrous......Many of us do not realize that the serious damaging consequence of this one event has done .It has undone nearly 30 years of hard won peace in Nagaland.
What peace LOL?

Bending over doesn't count as peace except in the eyes of babus.

Pathetic state of 1,300 million nation that can't even control a state with 2 million people.
 

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What peace LOL?

Bending over doesn't count as peace except in the eyes of babus.

Pathetic state of 1,300 million nation that can't even control a state with 2 million people.
You cannot look at Naga Insurgency without looking at insurgency in North East as a whole.

Trying Iron hand approach would push not just Nagaland but the entire region into a volcano.This would only help China and our foe Pakistan as India would have to divert significant amount of it's resources towards fighting internal rebellion.

Anyone who lived in the NE in the 80's and the 90's can tell you how deadly the insurgency there can be.
It can get far more brutal than either in Naxal belt or Kashmir.
 

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This is the reason conversion is only rampant at coastal areas, our thorium is being smuggled from coastal areas of Tamil Nadu, police , politicians, everone involved in this
How many commercial thorium reactors exist in the world ?
 

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Read my post again "slowly"

Almost all of India's internal conflicts are to do with religion except Naxalism.
Then Why don't Mizos and nagas and other Christian ethic terror organisations merge.. Yes, religion is important, but it's not the only thing that matters..
You cannot go all Rambo based on a wrong diagnosis of the problem..
 

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Then Why don't Mizos and nagas and other Christian ethic terror organisations merge.. Yes, religion is important, but it's not the only thing that matters..
You cannot go all Rambo based on a wrong diagnosis of the problem..
The Church fuels the separatist sentiments.

It's mostly Religious + part ethnic.
 

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Christians in Karnataka making threats regarding anti-conversion bill!

Christians are making threats in a state where they aren't 5% and you think the Church in Nagaland isn't behind this stuff where they are 90%?

 

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You cannot look at Naga Insurgency without looking at insurgency in North East as a whole.

Trying Iron hand approach would push not just Nagaland but the entire region into a volcano.This would only help China and our foe Pakistan as India would have to divert significant amount of it's resources towards fighting internal rebellion.

Anyone who lived in the NE in the 80's and the 90's can tell you how deadly the insurgency there can be.
It can get far more brutal than either in Naxal belt or Kashmir.
The region is mostly quiet now, except for sporadic violence, however, incidents like these and if one cannot get justice especially the Naga and these tribes who were killed are Konyaks the head hunters, might turn into a quagmire. I believe unless the top decision-maker doesn't come up with a solution quickly and tries to quell again will not surely go down well. This was supposed to be a classified operation which is fine but should have worked with Assam Rifles as they know the region very well and how the populations work.
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The early days of the Naga insurgency were brutal and don't want things to repeat again.
 

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This was a horrific incident which should not have happened and you are justifying this. If this will be the attitude Goodluck getting rid of the insurgencies.
Simply force immigration of surplus population to these areas. Watch as this insurgency goes down automatically.
 

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The region is mostly quiet now, except for sporadic violence, however, incidents like these and if one cannot get justice especially the Naga and these tribes who were killed are Konyaks the head hunters, might turn into a quagmire. I believe unless the top decision-maker doesn't come up with a solution quickly and tries to quell again will not surely go down well. This was supposed to be a classified operation which is fine but should have worked with Assam Rifles as they know the region very well and how the populations work.
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The early days of the Naga insurgency were brutal and don't want things to repeat again.
India is one. Believe me if as a Bengali I am called to quell some rebellion in W. Bengali , I will make sure we leave the British and Mongols behind in terms of brutality and swiftness.

Same sentiment should arise in all Nationalists. Most Nagas are becoming Christians and losing their Indic roots.

Drone bombing campaign should be done on pro insurgent villages and camps.
 

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It's reasonable to assume other enemy nations have a similar agenda. We must accept collateral damage in our stride.
So easy to say from the comfort of your house, we must accept collateral damage, and all military will say we must try to avoid collateral damage. If this happens to your family members then you will have a different reality.
 

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