National Socialist Heinrich Himmler Fascination With Ancient India

[Bornubus]

If himmler believed in krishna's message and even reincarnation he would not have been in charge of exterminating millions of people. Nazis took the swastika from Hindus and twisted it into a symbol of death and
Destruction


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"Karm karo fal ki chinta mat Karo"

He did what he thought right, this is most important, sins, conscience, good bad is up to God to decide.

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

"Karm karo fal ki chinta mat Karo"

He did what he thought right, this is most important, sins, conscience, good bad is up to God to decide.

You are connecting wrong dots.
Dharma means doing righteous thing, not what oneself think.

 

[Bornubus]

You are connecting wrong dots.
Dharma means doing righteous thing, not what oneself think.

Karma and Dharma


Different things.

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

Karma and Dharma


Different things.

Its kind of interwoven. A chain of Karma decides whether someone is following Dharma or not.
Also, Geeta is not verse by verse, rather all 18 chapters are interwoven as one, or spoken (by Shree Kirshna) as one.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

"Karm karo fal ki chinta mat Karo"

He did what he thought right, this is most important, sins, conscience, good bad is up to God to decide.

The Norwegian mass murderer Breivik also claimed to have ties to Hindu groups is this something which deserves recognition?

http://m.thehindu.com/news/national...s-manifesto-hails-hindutva/article2293829.ece

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[Razor]

Nice. Didn't know about that. But a lot of them are reverse (left sided) swastikas as well.

The swastika type symbols are found in almost all cultures starting from the ancient.
If I remember right it is a representation of the sun.

 

[Razor]

You are connecting wrong dots.
Dharma means doing righteous thing, not what oneself think.

What is "righteous thing"?

Who decides this?

God(s)?

Who knows what the Gods are thinking?
You? Some book?

There is only "Survival of the fittest"

 

[Ancient Indian]

What is "righteous thing"?

Who decides this?

God(s)?

Who knows what the Gods are thinking?
You? Some book?

There is only "Survival of the fittest"

That is good question.

What is dharma?
Why people kill people and sacrifice their life for it?
Why Krishna stresses so much on Dharma?

 

[spikey360]

Swastik is found almost everywhere in the world.
Scroll through these tweets. ( click on date to open in new window )

Good post. Swastika is an ancient symbol of the Indo-Iranian people, the Aryans. It represents the Sun, the Wheel (movement).

 

[spikey360]

What is "righteous thing"?

Who decides this?

God(s)?

Who knows what the Gods are thinking?
You? Some book?

You are asking the right questions, but this is not the place where you will find answers to those questions, am afraid.

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

Good post. Swastika is an ancient symbol of the Indo-Iranian people, the Aryans. It represents the Sun, the Wheel (movement).

I believe aryan is the word used for noble people, and not a race.

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

What is "righteous thing"?

Who decides this?

God(s)?

Who knows what the Gods are thinking?
You? Some book?

There is only "Survival of the fittest"

Yeah because God said once during war what he thinks. And its not a book.
Righteous thing is what Arjun did fighting adharma.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I believe aryan is the word used for noble people, and not a race.

Germans claimed they were the master RACE blond hair and blue eyes. Can you clarify?


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[spikey360]

I believe aryan is the word used for noble people, and not a race.

Iranian people called themselves Aryans. It meant one thing. We call ourselves Aryans, this carries the meaning Noble.

 

[Bornubus]

Many people including moderators only see the evil side of Nazis.

IMO the similar social and political system is perfectly suited for India minus the persecution of Minorities but superiority of Hindus remain paramount.

After all India is a Hindu land for thousands of years and only Hindus (with support of minorities) can take it glory and a Strong power to be reckon with.


Unfortunately, even after 1 billion this won't happen.

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Nazis knew this so even though they were few in numbers went on to create history. Just compare their physique with any allied troops

They made best Military hardware with limited resources, Tiger was the best tank of the era, V2 rockets just few examples.

The world saw their might when SS soldiers march and crushed Europe and North Africa under their Boot.

If it wasn't for the bad policies Soviet and British Gypsies would be their slaves for decade.

Only the combined industrial might of US, Soviets and Commonwealth able to defeat tiny German Nazi populace.


Japanese are also proud nationalist and somewhat similar to Nazis.

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Also, Great respect for Netaji SC Bose.

 

[Bornubus]

What is "righteous thing"?

Who decides this?

God(s)?

Who knows what the Gods are thinking?
You? Some book?

There is only "Survival of the fittest"

And now the same people who blame Nazis of persecution, the Jews are known for persecuting Palestinian.


They are one step ahead as they have the tool (Jericho Nuclear tipped) to wipe out entire Race/religion.

Sampson option.

 

[Bornubus]

That is good question.

What is dharma?
Why people kill people and sacrifice their life for it?
Why Krishna stresses so much on Dharma?

I've commented else and i am saying this now.

The true message of Lord Krishna has been corrupted both in scriptures and as bards by certain section of Pot belly fat Brahman/purohit class whose only achievement is to fabricate our scriptures to suit their own Good.


Now what do you see around you when you think of Krishna ?

You see Radha Cult, Katha vachak Maharaj some sexy Sadhvi preaching Non violence in daytime while Kamasutra at Night.


This Radha cult made us Timid and Meek.

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Krishna speaks of war and to crush our enemy at all cost by any means.


The last person who truly practiced Geeta was Guru Gobind Singh, he did away Fake Brahminic customs and make every Sikh a warrior irrespective of Gender and Caste.

 

[rock127]

I saw a program on TV about a small village Darchik, in Ladakh who are supposed to be so called "Pure Aryans" and some German girls come there to get seeded.

So it means Germans even today are relating to those "Aryans" who are Indians.


The Last of the Aryans

In 2007, filmmaker Sanjeev Sivan released his documentary Achtung Baby: In Search of Purity on the phenomenon of German women travelling to Indian villages by the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir to get impregnated by men they believe to be racially pure Aryans. These villages are inhabited by a tribe called Brokpas, who are rumoured to be the ‘last pure specimens’ of the Aryan race. Across the world, several people still regard Aryans as the ‘Master Race’—tall, blue-eyed blondes endowed with superior intelligence and values.

An Aryan couple—Tsewang Namgyal and Namgyal Zangmo—in traditional Ladakhi dress (L) and a Drok-pa belle with distinct Aryan features

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20021117/spectrum/main1.htm

 

[Tactical Frog]

Many people including moderators only see the evil side of Nazis.

IMO the similar social and political system is perfectly suited for India minus the persecution of Minorities but superiority of Hindus remain paramount.

After all India is a Hindu land for thousands of years and only Hindus (with support of minorities) can take it glory and a Strong power to be reckon with.


Unfortunately, even after 1 billion this won't happen.

-----------------------------------------------------

Nazis knew this so even though they were few in numbers went on to create history. Just compare their physique with any allied troops

They made best Military hardware with limited resources, Tiger was the best tank of the era, V2 rockets just few examples.

The world saw their might when SS soldiers march and crushed Europe and North Africa under their Boot.

If it wasn't for the bad policies Soviet and British Gypsies would be their slaves for decade.

Only the combined industrial might of US, Soviets and Commonwealth able to defeat tiny German Nazi populace.


Japanese are also proud nationalist and somewhat similar to Nazis.

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Also, Great respect for Netaji SC Bose.

You are a victim of nazi mythology. They were severely beaten by those they were considering as their racial inferiors and slaves, the Russians and the other people of USSR. And they were severely beaten by the Americans too anywhere they fought against them.

 

[Ancient Indian]

I've commented else and i am saying this now.

The true message of Lord Krishna has been corrupted both in scriptures and as bards by certain section of Pot belly fat Brahman/purohit class whose only achievement is to fabricate our scriptures to suit their own Good.


Now what do you see around you when you think of Krishna ?

You see Radha Cult, Katha vachak Maharaj some sexy Sadhvi preaching Non violence in daytime while Kamasutra at Night.


This Radha cult made us Timid and Meek.

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Krishna speaks of war and to crush our enemy at all cost by any means.


The last person who truly practiced Geeta was Guru Gobind Singh, he did away Fake Brahminic customs and make every Sikh a warrior irrespective of Gender and Caste.

krishna speaks of many things.

He gave many explanations regarding many variety of topics.
Bhakthi is one thing. And doing duty is another thing.

Emergence of sikhism was too late to stop Islamic cults. It preserved some of the important things though.
You are too much of Kshatriya. May be that is the reason why you are attracted to the war side of Sri Krishna.

It is broad topic. And I am getting sleepy. We will continue tomorrow.