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Kunal Biswas

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Kunal, what say that this aircraft could be damn useful for BSF and Coast Guard (with seaplane modifications)?
Cant say what the range, but it can be mounted with FLIR pods and communication gear..

For SEA purpose i say double Engine, like NAL RTA-70..



Their is lot we can do with this platform, like DRDO AWACS, Marine survellence, etc can be done..






For BSF its gud...
 

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wow a strong step towards private sectors much needed existence in defense field
 

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NAL Mahindra NM5

Why doesn't IAF buy these for basic trainers rather than engage costly foreign made imports? Have they even evaluated these? I mean basic trainers are for rookie pilots to familiarize them with basics of flying. Why do we need Grobs, Texans, Tucanos etc?
 

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Why doesn't IAF buy these for basic trainers rather than engage costly foreign made imports? Have they even evaluated these? I mean basic trainers are for rookie pilots to familiarize them with basics of flying. Why do we need Grobs, Texans, Tucanos etc?
@Tshering22,
There were better aircrafts which IAF rejected..

HPT-34/35/40 Three aircraft..







The Turbo-prop powered HTT-34
The turboprop powered HTT-34 which was developed as a private venture by HAL. The 313kW (420shp) Allison 250-B17D powered HTT-34 flew for the first time, in a converted HTP-32 prototype form, on 17 June 1984. The new engine significantly boasted performance on the the basic aircraft, but was cancelled as official interest was not forthcoming.







HTT-35 advanced turboprop











Whats wrong with HPTT-35/40 ?
 
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Good Job, BTW more private participation should be encouraged.

Best wishes for M&M.

Regards
 

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i think after some year india will sell it's aircrafts to france......
 

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AFAIK, HTT-40 is not rejected. HAL is going ahead with plans to develop and operationalize HTT-40 in 5 year timeline and last i heard these trainers will equip later half of AFA's basic trainers fleet.
 

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Good to see NAL becoming ambitious, hope it completes the stuff on time.
 

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yes they should also consider project on developing Jumbo Jet, may be compete with Boeing, Airbus on commercial front.
Yes, but first let them come up with a smaller aircraft that is at par with international products of comparable capacity. It would be nice to have collaboration with foreign companies. The Sukhoi Superjet 100 can be a benchmark for quality.
 

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If the RTA-70 does become a success, then it could be big boon for the domestic aircraft market, especially those domestic zones where the airlines fly small sized jets.
 

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aren't NAL Scientists, facilities better end up working on basic technologies for military aircraft? or contribute to HAL, DRDO for various defence projects?
Military is having countless number of requirements and will continue to come up in future. imagine the various technologies required to master for meeting armed forces requirement.

They say DRDO has high attrition and shortage of qualified scientists
now NAL is coming up with a commercial 70 seat airliner?
to meet requirement of what? Air India, Kingfisher?

They have considerably contributed to Military Aviation R&D in past and should continue to do so. It should be given highest priority over any commercial aircraft project.
 
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aren't NAL Scientists, facilities better end up working on basic technologies for military aircraft? or contribute to HAL, DRDO for various defence projects?
Military is having countless number of requirements and will continue to come up in future. imagine the various technologies required to master for meeting armed forces requirement.

They say DRDO has high attrition and shortage of qualified scientists
now NAL is coming up with a commercial 70 seat airliner?
to meet requirement of what? Air India, Kingfisher?

They have considerably contributed to Military Aviation R&D in past and should continue to do so. It should be given highest priority over any commercial aircraft project.
HAL and ADA are far better equipped to take on Fighter jet and Helicopter developments.

NAL has received very little investment in comparison , they don't have anywhere neat the capabilities or facilities or even technical expertise.
For NAL the RTA-90 is an opportunity to actually work on big project and get some investment , MOD has always favored HAL for investment.

In the long run NAL's work with the RTA-90 could lead to range or Cargo , refueling and AWACS platform aircraft for our forces.
 

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HAL and ADA are far better equipped to take on Fighter jet and Helicopter developments.

NAL has received very little investment in comparison , they don't have anywhere neat the capabilities or facilities or even technical expertise.
For NAL the RTA-90 is an opportunity to actually work on big project and get some investment , MOD has always favored HAL for investment.

In the long run NAL's work with the RTA-90 could lead to range or Cargo , refueling and AWACS platform aircraft for our forces.
i did read few times of NALs significant contribution to design, materials, wind tunnel testing of LCA. Let them continue to contribute the design of many of defence aircraft being developed by HAL/DRDO. UCAVs, Helicopters, Stealth aircraft, Ballistic missiles etc so many projects they can contribute to.
 
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Saras back from the brink again as NAL targets 2013 certification

After a break of two years, Bangalore's NAL has resumed development of its Saras 14-seat multi-role transport aircraft following production authorisation approval by India's civil aviation authority.







The Saras programme has been hampered for more than two decades by a host of setbacks including political, technical and design issues. The latest delay came in 2009 when the second prototype of the twin-engined, push-prop aircraft crashed outside Bangalore, killing all three crew members.


NAL director Alevoor Upadhya says the company will press ahead with development of modified prototype. The first prototype will be upgraded to meet the latest design criteria including higher-thrust 1,200hp (895kW) Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6A-67A engines and improvements to the flight control and flight operations systems.



A first flight is scheduled for August, says Upadhya, adding that NAL is working in parallel to reduce the weight of the first production aircraft by around 500kg (1,100lb) through the "extensive use of composites and by fine-tuning the structural design and optimising some of the on-board systems".

This aircraft is due to make its first flight by the end of 2011 leading to certification and first deliveries in 2013 and 2014 respectively.



Saras is targeted at regional airlines, charter, corporate and air ambulance operators as well as border control, surveillance and aerial survey providers.




http://www.flightglobal.com/article...from-the-brink-again-as-nal-targets-2013.html
 

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