Mossad tricked the Iranians into blowing up Natanz

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Ya Allah! The perfidious Yahood have done it again!

EXCLUSIVE: Mossad recruited top Iranian scientists to blow up key nuclear facility

Mossad recruited a team of Iranian nuclear scientists to carry out a covert operation which blew up one of the regime’s most secure nuclear facilities earlier this year, the JC can reveal.

Up to 10 scientists were approached by Israeli agents and agreed to destroy the underground A1000 centrifuge hall at Natanz in April, though they believed that they were working for international dissident groups.

Some of the explosives they used were dropped into the compound by a drone and quietly collected by the scientists, while others were smuggled into the high security facility hidden in boxes of food on a catering lorry. The ensuing destruction caused chaos in the highest echelons of the Iranian leadership. It demolished 90 per cent of the centrifuges at the nuclear plant, delaying progress towards a bomb and putting the key complex out of action for up to nine months.

The new details are among astonishing secrets of three connected Mossad operations that took place over an 11-month period of sabotage in Iran. The first two, in July 2020 and April 2021, targeted the complex in Natanz using explosives, while he third, in June this year, took the form of a quadcopter assault on the Iran Centrifuge Technology Company (TESA), in the city of Karaj, 30 miles northwest of Tehran. The full details are published for the first time by the JC today.

Other revelations include:

Mossad spies hid explosives in building materials used to construct the Natanz centrifuge hall as long ago as 2019, then triggered them in 2020:

Agents sneaked an armed quadcopter, weighing the same as a motorbike, into Iran piece by piece, and used it to launch missiles at the TESA site in Karaj in June:

The three operations were planned together over an 18-month period by a team of 1,000 technicians, analysts and spies, as well as scores of agents on the ground:

The three-part assault on Iranian nuclear infrastructure was carried out by Mossad acting alone – known in Israeli intelligence circles as a ‘blue-and-white operation’ – and not jointly with the United States, dubbed ‘blue-white-and-red’.

It comes amid mounting anxiety that Tehran is cynically playing for time as it resumes negotiations in Vienna while pressing ahead with building a nuclear weapon.

In recent weeks, Israel has shared intelligence with Western allies suggesting that Iran is preparing to enrich uranium to 90 per cent purity, the level required to produce a nuclear bomb, Axios reported.

This raises the spectre of a major Israeli air assault on Tehran’s nuclear plants, should both negotiations and sabotage prove insufficient to halt the programme.

This week, the JC has reported that Israel is embarking on a new policy of launching covert attacks on Iranian soil in retaliation for its meddling in the region, meaning that further undercover operations are in the pipeline.

The team of scientists carried out the sabotage in April this year, while the nuclear negotiations with the West were underway in Vienna.

The measures were needed in order to access the underground A1000 centrifuge hall at Natanz, which housed up to 5,000 centrifuges and is protected from air assault by 40 feet of concrete and iron.

Hours after Iran declared that it had begun to use advanced IR-5 and IR-6 centrifuges at the site, in blatant breach of the 2015 nuclear deal, the bombs were remotely set off.

The blast destroyed the independent and highly secure internal power system that supplied the centrifuges.

It caused a power blackout in the heavily fortified complex.

“The scientists’ motivations were all different,” a source said. “Mossad found out what they deeply wanted in their lives and offered it to them.

“There was an inner circle of scientists who knew more about the operation, and an outer circle who helped out but had less information.”

After the explosion, the scientists responsible were spirited away to a safe location. The source added: “All of them are very safe today.”

Iran named a suspect – 43-year-old Reza Karimi – and claimed to have issued an Interpol ‘red notice’ for his arrest. So far he has not been found.

The explosion left a crater so large that one Iranian official fell into it while examining the damage, injuring his head, leg, arm and back.

Fereydoon Abbasi Davani, the head of the Iranian parliament’s energy committee, grudgingly acknowledged to Iranian state television after the attack that the plan was “rather beautiful”.

This was the second of a three-part Mossad operation targeting Iran’s ‘fissile material project’, which is the industrial process of enriching uranium to weapons-grade levels.

The first attack had come on 2 July 2020, with a mysterious explosion inside the Iran Centre for Advanced Centrifuges (ICAC) warehouse at Natanz, central Iran, a key hub in Tehran’s network of nuclear plants dotted around the country.

The orchestration of the blast was audacious. A year earlier, Israeli spies posing as construction wholesalers had sold Iranian officials building materials to be used in the centrifuge hall.

Unbeknownst to the Iranians, the materials had been filled with Mossad explosives. They were built into the hall and remained in place all year. Then, when the time was right, Israel’s spymasters had pushed the button.

Mossad’s brains behind this attack – whom we are not naming – also led a similar operation in the early Nineties, the JC has learnt, in which a desk filled with listening devices was sold to Mahmoud Abbas’ PLO office in Tunisia, providing the Israelis with a stream of audio intelligence.

“The Iranians have always known that Israel has infiltrated their supply chains, but they are powerless to do anything about it,” a source told the JC.

The warehouse had been used to precisely calibrate centrifuges, a vital part of a complex process of producing a nuclear weapon.

The blast caused major damage, destroying a significant quantity of hardware and dramatically degrading the country’s nuclear programme. According to Iranian reports, nobody was injured.

The third and final act in the three-part drama came in June this year. Mossad’s attention now turned to the production of the centrifuges themselves, in order to delay the replacement of the equipment it had damaged in the first two attacks.

Over the preceding weeks, an armed quadcopter drone, weighing the same as a motorcycle, had been smuggled into the country piece by piece by agents.

The target was the TESA complex in Karaj, the most important factory to build the centrifuges – including advanced centrifuges – for the enrichment plants.

On June 23, from a location 10 miles away from the TESA factory, a joint Iranian and Israeli team launched the drone, flew it towards the facility and fired, partly destroying it.

The drone was then piloted back to the team on the ground, who spirited it away to be used again.

The revelations underline Israel’s capacity for striking at the heart of the Iranian regime’s most secret and strongly fortified sites, bolstering the Jewish state’s insistence that if necessary, it will take unilateral military action to prevent the theocracy from achieving a bomb.

Richard Pater, Executive Director of Britain Israel Communications and Research Centre (Bicom), said: “Unlike in the previous rounds of talks, Britain is currently holding the strongest line. This is very much appreciated by Israel, as there is a sense that the Americans are so desperate to return to the deal that they would be too soft.

“However, it is quite clear that Britain and the rest of the international community still sees negotiation as the most effective track to rein in Iranian ambitions.

“Israel is not convinced that this will be enough, and also doubt that more problematic partners, like Russia and China, will be able to hold same line.

“Therefore, the credibility of the threat from Israel needs to be enhanced, reiterated and reimposed, as part of a dual effort to put real pressure on Iranians.

“In terms of geopolitics, that is the message that these operations are sending to the international community.”

 

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Ya Allah! The perfidious Yahood have done it again!

EXCLUSIVE: Mossad recruited top Iranian scientists to blow up key nuclear facility

Mossad recruited a team of Iranian nuclear scientists to carry out a covert operation which blew up one of the regime’s most secure nuclear facilities earlier this year, the JC can reveal.

Up to 10 scientists were approached by Israeli agents and agreed to destroy the underground A1000 centrifuge hall at Natanz in April, though they believed that they were working for international dissident groups.

Some of the explosives they used were dropped into the compound by a drone and quietly collected by the scientists, while others were smuggled into the high security facility hidden in boxes of food on a catering lorry. The ensuing destruction caused chaos in the highest echelons of the Iranian leadership. It demolished 90 per cent of the centrifuges at the nuclear plant, delaying progress towards a bomb and putting the key complex out of action for up to nine months.

The new details are among astonishing secrets of three connected Mossad operations that took place over an 11-month period of sabotage in Iran. The first two, in July 2020 and April 2021, targeted the complex in Natanz using explosives, while he third, in June this year, took the form of a quadcopter assault on the Iran Centrifuge Technology Company (TESA), in the city of Karaj, 30 miles northwest of Tehran. The full details are published for the first time by the JC today.

Other revelations include:

Mossad spies hid explosives in building materials used to construct the Natanz centrifuge hall as long ago as 2019, then triggered them in 2020:

Agents sneaked an armed quadcopter, weighing the same as a motorbike, into Iran piece by piece, and used it to launch missiles at the TESA site in Karaj in June:

The three operations were planned together over an 18-month period by a team of 1,000 technicians, analysts and spies, as well as scores of agents on the ground:

The three-part assault on Iranian nuclear infrastructure was carried out by Mossad acting alone – known in Israeli intelligence circles as a ‘blue-and-white operation’ – and not jointly with the United States, dubbed ‘blue-white-and-red’.

It comes amid mounting anxiety that Tehran is cynically playing for time as it resumes negotiations in Vienna while pressing ahead with building a nuclear weapon.

In recent weeks, Israel has shared intelligence with Western allies suggesting that Iran is preparing to enrich uranium to 90 per cent purity, the level required to produce a nuclear bomb, Axios reported.

This raises the spectre of a major Israeli air assault on Tehran’s nuclear plants, should both negotiations and sabotage prove insufficient to halt the programme.

This week, the JC has reported that Israel is embarking on a new policy of launching covert attacks on Iranian soil in retaliation for its meddling in the region, meaning that further undercover operations are in the pipeline.

The team of scientists carried out the sabotage in April this year, while the nuclear negotiations with the West were underway in Vienna.

The measures were needed in order to access the underground A1000 centrifuge hall at Natanz, which housed up to 5,000 centrifuges and is protected from air assault by 40 feet of concrete and iron.

Hours after Iran declared that it had begun to use advanced IR-5 and IR-6 centrifuges at the site, in blatant breach of the 2015 nuclear deal, the bombs were remotely set off.

The blast destroyed the independent and highly secure internal power system that supplied the centrifuges.

It caused a power blackout in the heavily fortified complex.

“The scientists’ motivations were all different,” a source said. “Mossad found out what they deeply wanted in their lives and offered it to them.

“There was an inner circle of scientists who knew more about the operation, and an outer circle who helped out but had less information.”

After the explosion, the scientists responsible were spirited away to a safe location. The source added: “All of them are very safe today.”

Iran named a suspect – 43-year-old Reza Karimi – and claimed to have issued an Interpol ‘red notice’ for his arrest. So far he has not been found.

The explosion left a crater so large that one Iranian official fell into it while examining the damage, injuring his head, leg, arm and back.

Fereydoon Abbasi Davani, the head of the Iranian parliament’s energy committee, grudgingly acknowledged to Iranian state television after the attack that the plan was “rather beautiful”.

This was the second of a three-part Mossad operation targeting Iran’s ‘fissile material project’, which is the industrial process of enriching uranium to weapons-grade levels.

The first attack had come on 2 July 2020, with a mysterious explosion inside the Iran Centre for Advanced Centrifuges (ICAC) warehouse at Natanz, central Iran, a key hub in Tehran’s network of nuclear plants dotted around the country.

The orchestration of the blast was audacious. A year earlier, Israeli spies posing as construction wholesalers had sold Iranian officials building materials to be used in the centrifuge hall.

Unbeknownst to the Iranians, the materials had been filled with Mossad explosives. They were built into the hall and remained in place all year. Then, when the time was right, Israel’s spymasters had pushed the button.

Mossad’s brains behind this attack – whom we are not naming – also led a similar operation in the early Nineties, the JC has learnt, in which a desk filled with listening devices was sold to Mahmoud Abbas’ PLO office in Tunisia, providing the Israelis with a stream of audio intelligence.

“The Iranians have always known that Israel has infiltrated their supply chains, but they are powerless to do anything about it,” a source told the JC.

The warehouse had been used to precisely calibrate centrifuges, a vital part of a complex process of producing a nuclear weapon.

The blast caused major damage, destroying a significant quantity of hardware and dramatically degrading the country’s nuclear programme. According to Iranian reports, nobody was injured.

The third and final act in the three-part drama came in June this year. Mossad’s attention now turned to the production of the centrifuges themselves, in order to delay the replacement of the equipment it had damaged in the first two attacks.

Over the preceding weeks, an armed quadcopter drone, weighing the same as a motorcycle, had been smuggled into the country piece by piece by agents.

The target was the TESA complex in Karaj, the most important factory to build the centrifuges – including advanced centrifuges – for the enrichment plants.

On June 23, from a location 10 miles away from the TESA factory, a joint Iranian and Israeli team launched the drone, flew it towards the facility and fired, partly destroying it.

The drone was then piloted back to the team on the ground, who spirited it away to be used again.

The revelations underline Israel’s capacity for striking at the heart of the Iranian regime’s most secret and strongly fortified sites, bolstering the Jewish state’s insistence that if necessary, it will take unilateral military action to prevent the theocracy from achieving a bomb.

Richard Pater, Executive Director of Britain Israel Communications and Research Centre (Bicom), said: “Unlike in the previous rounds of talks, Britain is currently holding the strongest line. This is very much appreciated by Israel, as there is a sense that the Americans are so desperate to return to the deal that they would be too soft.

“However, it is quite clear that Britain and the rest of the international community still sees negotiation as the most effective track to rein in Iranian ambitions.

“Israel is not convinced that this will be enough, and also doubt that more problematic partners, like Russia and China, will be able to hold same line.

“Therefore, the credibility of the threat from Israel needs to be enhanced, reiterated and reimposed, as part of a dual effort to put real pressure on Iranians.

“In terms of geopolitics, that is the message that these operations are sending to the international community.”

Colonel RAWjesh might want to do a Pro Max on a Pakistani Strategic Silo.
 

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Colonel RAWjesh might want to do a Pro Max on a Pakistani Strategic Silo.
Jokes aside, its incredible how Israel has managed to cultivate such an extensive human intelligence network in a country with an overwhelmingly hostile population in the absence of any shared cultural, linguistic bonds or a co-religionist fifth column that could be leveraged to conceal and nurture operatives. Plenty of lessons to learn here for India.
 

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Jokes aside, its incredible how Israel has managed to cultivate such an extensive human intelligence network in a country with an overwhelmingly hostile population in the absence of any shared cultural, linguistic bonds or a co-religionist fifth column that could be leveraged to conceal and nurture operatives. Plenty of lessons to learn here for India.
Not really. There is a strong linguistic bond between Israel and Iran. Many Iranian Jews migrated to Israel either directly or through the United States once the Shah regime was overthrown. Read the books Fortress Israel by Patrick Tyler and Mossad by Michael Bar-Zohar & Nissim Mishal.

Israel is an ideological state with Judaism as the core uniting factor. It has a melting pot of races, ethnicity and sub-communities from all over the world and Iranian Jews are no different. Mossad uses this ability to recruit people based on the place where they have to operate. Jews today are indistinguishable from the rest of the crowd anywhere. There are pale red-haired Jews that migrated from northern Europe, then there are Ethiopian Jews who blend easily into the East African environment.

In fact, Iranian Jews are one of the oldest Jewish communities in the world, that lived in Iran since their founder (emperor Bharata equivalent), Kourosh the Great.
 

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Ya Allah! The perfidious Yahood have done it again!

EXCLUSIVE: Mossad recruited top Iranian scientists to blow up key nuclear facility

Mossad recruited a team of Iranian nuclear scientists to carry out a covert operation which blew up one of the regime’s most secure nuclear facilities earlier this year, the JC can reveal.

Up to 10 scientists were approached by Israeli agents and agreed to destroy the underground A1000 centrifuge hall at Natanz in April, though they believed that they were working for international dissident groups.

Some of the explosives they used were dropped into the compound by a drone and quietly collected by the scientists, while others were smuggled into the high security facility hidden in boxes of food on a catering lorry. The ensuing destruction caused chaos in the highest echelons of the Iranian leadership. It demolished 90 per cent of the centrifuges at the nuclear plant, delaying progress towards a bomb and putting the key complex out of action for up to nine months.

The new details are among astonishing secrets of three connected Mossad operations that took place over an 11-month period of sabotage in Iran. The first two, in July 2020 and April 2021, targeted the complex in Natanz using explosives, while he third, in June this year, took the form of a quadcopter assault on the Iran Centrifuge Technology Company (TESA), in the city of Karaj, 30 miles northwest of Tehran. The full details are published for the first time by the JC today.

Other revelations include:

Mossad spies hid explosives in building materials used to construct the Natanz centrifuge hall as long ago as 2019, then triggered them in 2020:

Agents sneaked an armed quadcopter, weighing the same as a motorbike, into Iran piece by piece, and used it to launch missiles at the TESA site in Karaj in June:

The three operations were planned together over an 18-month period by a team of 1,000 technicians, analysts and spies, as well as scores of agents on the ground:

The three-part assault on Iranian nuclear infrastructure was carried out by Mossad acting alone – known in Israeli intelligence circles as a ‘blue-and-white operation’ – and not jointly with the United States, dubbed ‘blue-white-and-red’.

It comes amid mounting anxiety that Tehran is cynically playing for time as it resumes negotiations in Vienna while pressing ahead with building a nuclear weapon.

In recent weeks, Israel has shared intelligence with Western allies suggesting that Iran is preparing to enrich uranium to 90 per cent purity, the level required to produce a nuclear bomb, Axios reported.

This raises the spectre of a major Israeli air assault on Tehran’s nuclear plants, should both negotiations and sabotage prove insufficient to halt the programme.

This week, the JC has reported that Israel is embarking on a new policy of launching covert attacks on Iranian soil in retaliation for its meddling in the region, meaning that further undercover operations are in the pipeline.

The team of scientists carried out the sabotage in April this year, while the nuclear negotiations with the West were underway in Vienna.

The measures were needed in order to access the underground A1000 centrifuge hall at Natanz, which housed up to 5,000 centrifuges and is protected from air assault by 40 feet of concrete and iron.

Hours after Iran declared that it had begun to use advanced IR-5 and IR-6 centrifuges at the site, in blatant breach of the 2015 nuclear deal, the bombs were remotely set off.

The blast destroyed the independent and highly secure internal power system that supplied the centrifuges.

It caused a power blackout in the heavily fortified complex.

“The scientists’ motivations were all different,” a source said. “Mossad found out what they deeply wanted in their lives and offered it to them.

“There was an inner circle of scientists who knew more about the operation, and an outer circle who helped out but had less information.”

After the explosion, the scientists responsible were spirited away to a safe location. The source added: “All of them are very safe today.”

Iran named a suspect – 43-year-old Reza Karimi – and claimed to have issued an Interpol ‘red notice’ for his arrest. So far he has not been found.

The explosion left a crater so large that one Iranian official fell into it while examining the damage, injuring his head, leg, arm and back.

Fereydoon Abbasi Davani, the head of the Iranian parliament’s energy committee, grudgingly acknowledged to Iranian state television after the attack that the plan was “rather beautiful”.

This was the second of a three-part Mossad operation targeting Iran’s ‘fissile material project’, which is the industrial process of enriching uranium to weapons-grade levels.

The first attack had come on 2 July 2020, with a mysterious explosion inside the Iran Centre for Advanced Centrifuges (ICAC) warehouse at Natanz, central Iran, a key hub in Tehran’s network of nuclear plants dotted around the country.

The orchestration of the blast was audacious. A year earlier, Israeli spies posing as construction wholesalers had sold Iranian officials building materials to be used in the centrifuge hall.

Unbeknownst to the Iranians, the materials had been filled with Mossad explosives. They were built into the hall and remained in place all year. Then, when the time was right, Israel’s spymasters had pushed the button.

Mossad’s brains behind this attack – whom we are not naming – also led a similar operation in the early Nineties, the JC has learnt, in which a desk filled with listening devices was sold to Mahmoud Abbas’ PLO office in Tunisia, providing the Israelis with a stream of audio intelligence.

“The Iranians have always known that Israel has infiltrated their supply chains, but they are powerless to do anything about it,” a source told the JC.

The warehouse had been used to precisely calibrate centrifuges, a vital part of a complex process of producing a nuclear weapon.

The blast caused major damage, destroying a significant quantity of hardware and dramatically degrading the country’s nuclear programme. According to Iranian reports, nobody was injured.

The third and final act in the three-part drama came in June this year. Mossad’s attention now turned to the production of the centrifuges themselves, in order to delay the replacement of the equipment it had damaged in the first two attacks.

Over the preceding weeks, an armed quadcopter drone, weighing the same as a motorcycle, had been smuggled into the country piece by piece by agents.

The target was the TESA complex in Karaj, the most important factory to build the centrifuges – including advanced centrifuges – for the enrichment plants.

On June 23, from a location 10 miles away from the TESA factory, a joint Iranian and Israeli team launched the drone, flew it towards the facility and fired, partly destroying it.

The drone was then piloted back to the team on the ground, who spirited it away to be used again.

The revelations underline Israel’s capacity for striking at the heart of the Iranian regime’s most secret and strongly fortified sites, bolstering the Jewish state’s insistence that if necessary, it will take unilateral military action to prevent the theocracy from achieving a bomb.

Richard Pater, Executive Director of Britain Israel Communications and Research Centre (Bicom), said: “Unlike in the previous rounds of talks, Britain is currently holding the strongest line. This is very much appreciated by Israel, as there is a sense that the Americans are so desperate to return to the deal that they would be too soft.

“However, it is quite clear that Britain and the rest of the international community still sees negotiation as the most effective track to rein in Iranian ambitions.

“Israel is not convinced that this will be enough, and also doubt that more problematic partners, like Russia and China, will be able to hold same line.

“Therefore, the credibility of the threat from Israel needs to be enhanced, reiterated and reimposed, as part of a dual effort to put real pressure on Iranians.

“In terms of geopolitics, that is the message that these operations are sending to the international community.”

The Iranians are so compromised.. They must be A Grade Ch**t Marikas..
Israel manages to pull off things this big, twice a year..
Fool me once -- Shame on you.
Fool me twice -- Shame on me..

Meanwhile Iranian counter intelligence be like:

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The Iranians are so compromised.. They must be A Grade Ch**t Marikas..
Israel manages to pull off things this big, twice a year..
Fool me once -- Shame on you.
Fool me twice -- Shame on me..

Meanwhile Iranian counter intelligence be like:

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Iranians are even beating porkis when it comes to incompetence.
 

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Not really. There is a strong linguistic bond between Israel and Iran. Many Iranian Jews migrated to Israel either directly or through the United States once the Shah regime was overthrown. Read the books Fortress Israel by Patrick Tyler and Mossad by Michael Bar-Zohar & Nissim Mishal.

Israel is an ideological state with Judaism as the core uniting factor. It has a melting pot of races, ethnicity and sub-communities from all over the world and Iranian Jews are no different. Mossad uses this ability to recruit people based on the place where they have to operate. Jews today are indistinguishable from the rest of the crowd anywhere. There are pale red-haired Jews that migrated from northern Europe, then there are Ethiopian Jews who blend easily into the East African environment.

In fact, Iranian Jews are one of the oldest Jewish communities in the world, that lived in Iran since their founder (emperor Bharata equivalent), Kourosh the Great.
Though it's true Israel has a sizeable Farsi speaking population, many Iranian Jews would have migrated there in the late 70s/ early 80s soon after the fall of the Shah so raising native Farsi speaking covert agents with enough first hand experience of Iranian life to be able to not only blend in but also infiltrate the most sensitive parts of the Iranian military-industrial complex is an absolutely astonishing feat IMO. Besides, the Iranians are so suspicious of all foreigners it would be very hard to smuggle operatives into the country without being noticed. When I crossed the overland border from Turkey to Iran back in 2010, the agents on the Iranian side were already expecting me (I had to provide a detailed itinerary with the visa application to be fair) and subjected me to 2 rounds of questioning on my plans followed by fingerprints before they'd let me go. Any Israeli agent trying to sneak into Iran, let alone trying to sell construction materials to Natanz, would be running such an exceptional risk of capture (followed by a summary execution) they would need to possess balls of solid steel.
 

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Though it's true Israel has a sizeable Farsi speaking population, many Iranian Jews would have migrated there in the late 70s/ early 80s soon after the fall of the Shah so raising native Farsi speaking covert agents with enough first hand experience of Iranian life to be able to not only blend in but also infiltrate the most sensitive parts of the Iranian military-industrial complex is an absolutely astonishing feat IMO. Besides, the Iranians are so suspicious of all foreigners it would be very hard to smuggle operatives into the country without being noticed. When I crossed the overland border from Turkey to Iran back in 2010, the agents on the Iranian side were already expecting me (I had to provide a detailed itinerary with the visa application to be fair) and subjected me to 2 rounds of questioning on my plans followed by fingerprints before they'd let me go. Any Israeli agent trying to sneak into Iran, let alone trying to sell construction materials to Natanz, would be running such an exceptional risk of capture (followed by a summary execution) they would need to possess balls of solid steel.
What questions they asked you , if you can remember them ?

I am just curious
 

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How they treated , as you are indian i guess .
 

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What questions they asked you , if you can remember them ?

I am just curious
I crossed at the Bazargan border- on the Turkish side you get mobbed by smugglers trying to sell you cigarettes, Turkish candies etc- although I didn't 'stand out ' from the crowd very much, the minute I crossed I was approached by a border guard who identified me as 'iglistaani' or something to that effect (I had to specify what time I expected to cross so they were clearly on the lookout for me). I was then led to a small room to be interviewed by a chap in a suit- he initially spoke little and kept fiddling with my passport before asking me about the purpose of my visit, itinerary, who I was supposed to meet etc. He just kept asking these over and over again before leaving the room and returning to ask the same questions. After he let me go, I went through passport control where I was once again taken to the side and interviewed by a uniformed officer- this chap was more friendly, inquired about India, I was able to identify some of the Farsi words he used so we talked about India's Farsi heritage (heavy dose of taqiyya) but interview was similar in content to the previous one. He bought me a cup of green tea and took 2 sets of fingerprints- at this stage my acquaintance, who was quite well connected, arrived- within 5 mins the interrogation ended and we left together for Tabriz in his car.
 

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I crossed at the Bazargan border- on the Turkish side you get mobbed by smugglers trying to sell you cigarettes, Turkish candies etc- although I didn't 'stand out ' from the crowd very much, the minute I crossed I was approached by a border guard who identified me as 'iglistaani' or something to that effect (I had to specify what time I expected to cross so they were clearly on the lookout for me). I was then led to a small room to be interviewed by a chap in a suit- he initially spoke little and kept fiddling with my passport before asking me about the purpose of my visit, itinerary, who I was supposed to meet etc. He just kept asking these over and over again before leaving the room and returning to ask the same questions. After he let me go, I went through passport control where I was once again taken to the side and interviewed by a uniformed officer- this chap was more friendly, inquired about India, I was able to identify some of the Farsi words he used so we talked about India's Farsi heritage (heavy dose of taqiyya) but interview was similar in content to the previous one. He bought me a cup of green tea and took 2 sets of fingerprints- at this stage my acquaintance, who was quite well connected, arrived- within 5 mins the interrogation ended and we left together for Tabriz in his car.
Werre you coming to india by road , sirji ?
 
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Werre you coming to india by road , sirji
No, I traveled from London-Istanbul-Van by air, Van to Bazargan border by dolmus (also visited Van kilisesi which was quite a hair raising experience for several reasons), Bazargan to Tabriz by car, Tabriz to Isfahan by air and onward to Tehran by road (when you actually pass Natanz) before flying back to London.

I have overwhelmingly positive memories of Iran- I didn't get instantly recognised as a foreigner very much so I missed out on all the excessive hospitality that some of the Western tourists I hung out with encountered- I met a Danish duo who claimed they hadn't spent a single dollar on food or board during their 4 week trip across the country- but the local's faces always lit up when they realised I was from 'Indistan'.Everyone obviously knew Amitabh Bachan and a lot of pirated Bollywood CDs were being sold on the streets.

The non Kurdish part of Turkey, on the other hand, was a very different experience😏
 

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No, I traveled from London-Istanbul-Van by air, Van to Bazargan border by dolmus (also visited Van kilisesi which was quite a hair raising experience for several reasons), Bazargan to Tabriz by car, Tabriz to Isfahan by air and onward to Tehran by road (when you actually pass Natanz) before flying back to London.

I have overwhelmingly positive memories of Iran- I didn't get instantly recognised as a foreigner very much so I missed out on all the excessive hospitality that some of the Western tourists I hung out with encountered- I met a Danish duo who claimed they hadn't spent a single dollar on food or board during their 4 week trip across the country- but the local's faces always lit up when they realised I was from 'Indistan'.Everyone obviously knew Amitabh Bachan and a lot of pirated Bollywood CDs were being sold on the streets.

The non Kurdish part of Turkey, on the other hand, was a very different experience😏
Why different ?
 

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Why different ?
Many Turks were ok but several were less friendly once they realised I wasn't Muslim. Most conversations would start with an inquiry about my name immediately followed by the obligatory 'are you Muslim'? As a tourist in Turkey you feel more wary of being a target for scams, a bit like in parts of North Africa or even Thailand.

In contrast, the Kurds were much friendlier, similar to Iranians in this respect. For instance, a Kurdish couple rescued me after I got stuck by myself on the banks of the Van lake on a late afternoon in mid October- had they not done so, I'm pretty certain a deeply unpleasant fate awaited me (probably at the hands of wolves or some other feral animal)
 

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Jokes aside, its incredible how Israel has managed to cultivate such an extensive human intelligence network in a country with an overwhelmingly hostile population in the absence of any shared cultural, linguistic bonds or a co-religionist fifth column that could be leveraged to conceal and nurture operatives. Plenty of lessons to learn here for India.
Studies have shown more a regime is hard-line and closed, more are the chances of your local population trying to aid foreign adversaries against the local regime.
This is even more true among educated, well to do (financially) and population exposed to outside world.
 

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“The Iranians have always known that Israel has infiltrated their supply chains, but they are powerless to do anything about it,” a source told the JC.
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This forms the basis of The Operative (2019) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8000718/
For an Israeli movie based on a book written by a jew, it offers a nicely balanced view.

Highly recommended for those who like a deliberately slow character/story building movie. It is not action-packed , so james bond fans can skip it.
 

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Though it's true Israel has a sizeable Farsi speaking population, many Iranian Jews would have migrated there in the late 70s/ early 80s soon after the fall of the Shah so raising native Farsi speaking covert agents with enough first hand experience of Iranian life to be able to not only blend in but also infiltrate the most sensitive parts of the Iranian military-industrial complex is an absolutely astonishing feat IMO. Besides, the Iranians are so suspicious of all foreigners it would be very hard to smuggle operatives into the country without being noticed. When I crossed the overland border from Turkey to Iran back in 2010, the agents on the Iranian side were already expecting me (I had to provide a detailed itinerary with the visa application to be fair) and subjected me to 2 rounds of questioning on my plans followed by fingerprints before they'd let me go. Any Israeli agent trying to sneak into Iran, let alone trying to sell construction materials to Natanz, would be running such an exceptional risk of capture (followed by a summary execution) they would need to possess balls of solid steel.
Mossad has ways of reaching that would never follow the conventional route. Did you know that there are sizeable gaps to enter Iran from the north? From Esenguly in Turkmenistan that has a Caspian coastline.

I have myself taken a vehicle from Ashgabat to Iran (Turkmenistan is 100x more paranoid than Iranians) and if you think you're being watched in Iran, try getting a Turkmenistani visa. Hint: It is among the toughest visas in the world to get. It took a lot of Russian speaking, waving of Indian passports, talking about Soviet era (the bloke was an oldie), etc. to get my crew in, even though we were there on legitimate pre-doc surveying permit.

There are several Russian-speaking Jews in Israel who can pretend to be Russians or Central Asians and enter Iran easily. Making passports for Mossad isn't that difficult at all.

These guys just don't enter all of a sudden; they stay like sleeper cells in different countries - Turkmenistan, Iraq, Azerbaijan (by the truckloads), and even in Turkey. They establish legit businesses, shops, restaurants, etc. and gain local papers, then start doing trades with Iranian shopkeepers for years and then with that history, enter Iran while remaining in contact with their dissidents.
 

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