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If we can get these quickly and these are decent fighters than yes.MIG-35 IN DETAIL : better than rafale?
If we can get these quickly and these are decent fighters than yes.MIG-35 IN DETAIL : better than rafale?
Cancel useless Tejas deal and buy 36 more rafale. Get all rights for MIG 35 production and start producing them at HAL and fill the declining Sqd numbers.at this juncture I will vote for scrapping mmrca 2 or mrfa and go for Mirages from Taiwan and 36 more Rafales. probably we will be able to pull it off within $10B.
what's the probability that we will be able to integrate Meteor with Mirages? though I think we can skip this part and concentrate on Astra Mk2.
(completely layman's perspective)
(1) MMRCA tender looks dead already. Would be G to G.at this juncture I will vote for scrapping mmrca 2 or mrfa and go for Mirages from Taiwan and 36 more Rafales. probably we will be able to pull it off within $10B.
what's the probability that we will be able to integrate Meteor with Mirages? though I think we can skip this part and concentrate on Astra Mk2.
(completely layman's perspective)
nah! we don't need another Russian gizmo at this point in time. we've to diversify. and only a completely insane person will even think about scrapping Tejas. I think we are not that.Cancel useless Tejas deal and buy 36 more rafale. Get all rights for MIG 35 production and start producing them at HAL and fill the declining Sqd numbers.
It looks to me, Taiwan is going for replacement for Mirages (with F16). so we should get those within 2/3 years. (I may be wrong).(1) MMRCA tender looks dead already. Would be G to G.
(2) Don't think Taiwan will sell till their standoff with China eases.
(3) Right about skipping cuz the French would agree to integrate it when Astra 2 would be nearing induction.
Edit: May also b ready to integrate if we agree to buy huge qty of Rafales
Paise hain jeb mein kya?nah! we don't need another Russian gizmo at this point in time. we've to diversify. and only a completely insane person will even think about scrapping Tejas. I think we are not that.
how much do we need?Paise hain jeb mein kya?
For 36 rafale around 6 billion probably. Tejas is a useless plane with no future like Bandar from across border. Better buy more mig 29 or 35.how much do we need?
Its useless that's why tejas have the best availability rate in airforce exercises. It's useless that's why AF loved the reliability of its engine.For 36 rafale around 6 billion probably. Tejas is a useless plane with no future like Bandar from across border. Better buy more mig 29 or 35.
and where does that $6B stands wrt our gdp (percentage wise)? (actually it's $7B).For 36 rafale around 6 billion probably. Tejas is a useless plane with no future like bundar. Better buy more mig 29 or 35.
Are you going to pay 20 billion for rafale.For 36 rafale around 6 billion probably. Tejas is a useless plane with no future like Bandar from across border. Better buy more mig 29 or 35.
It is dead everybody here has some next level of shauk and dreams.(1) MMRCA tender looks dead already. Would be G to G.
(2) Don't think Taiwan will sell till their standoff with China eases.
(3) Right about skipping cuz the French would agree to integrate it when Astra 2 would be nearing induction.
Edit: May also b ready to integrate if we agree to buy huge qty of Rafales
When are we likely to start getting Tejas in numbers ?It is dead everybody here has some next level of shauk and dreams.
Already money is tight and we forced to spend extra money during the current standoff how will be fund another 20-30 billion in these vanity projects.
Atleast tejas can be built in numbers and the money comes back to India jobs are created in India R&D investment is in India and eho knows in the future we even manage to export it.
I am all for indigenous. However, pls note that IAF operates 3 categories. Light (Tejas Mk1, Mig21, Jags), Medium (Mig 29, Mirage 2k, Rafale), Heavy (Su30MKI). Done with background, I will put forth the following:It is dead everybody here has some next level of shauk and dreams.
Already money is tight and we forced to spend extra money during the current standoff how will be fund another 20-30 billion in these vanity projects.
Atleast tejas can be built in numbers and the money comes back to India jobs are created in India R&D investment is in India and eho knows in the future we even manage to export it.
No official statement from the Taiwanese on that. Further they ain't gifting it. Expect a min of $1.5 billion. Add to that the upgrade cost of approx Rs 300 cores per fighter. Per fighter it comes to Rs.450 cores plus. That for a fighter that IAF plans to start retiring in 2030.It looks to me, Taiwan is going for replacement for Mirages (with F16). so we should get those within 2/3 years. (I may be wrong).
Customized Su-57's would be the best move.I also would add that we will go for limited outright purchase of 5th Gen Heavy fighters in the next decade, which would probably be the last purchase of a foreign fighter aircraft.
You call that unreasonable money? Seriously?SNECMA asked 500 million euros for hot core tech only to be fitted in Kaveri
First let the Russian Air Force get it's delivery of 76 aircraft. That is expected by 2028. Once that delivery is completed, then let the IAF evaluate operational Russian Air Force SU-57s to figure out if there is interest. Do not get an unproven, not in service with it's home airforce fighter into the Indian Air Force which is then faced with the headaches of maintaining the plane.Customized Su-57's would be the best move.
did not make a mention of that specifically cuz mention of Su57 attracts immediate reactions, which would dilute topic at hand.Customized Su-57's would be the best move.
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