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Unarmed civilian photographed trying to stop Kiev regime's forces from entering his town.

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He was killed at 8 pm in the evening, according to the video below, where his corpse can be seen:

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Kiev regimes forces killed unarmed civilian.
 

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Ukrainian army attacks eastern towns of Mariupol, Konstantinovka

"Special forces units are in the city center. Mainly, they are deployed in yards and make warning shots from there," Mikhail Krutko from the self-defense headquarters told Interfax news agency.

He said that around 300 residents have gathered on Mariupol's central square to counter the troops.
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The start of the military operation in Konstantinovka has been reported by self-proclaimed Donetsk Republic deputy chair Denis Pushilin, while local media has stated that clashes are ongoing near the town's TV tower.
Activists in Mariupol say they have been given a few minutes to leave the administration building, otherwise fire will be opened on them, according to RT's Paula Slier.

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Source: http://rt.com/news/156644-mariupol-konstantinovka-special-operation/
 

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Russia sympathisers vent anger at Ukraine Odessa deaths


Grief and anger were evident outside the burned out trade union building in Odessa


Ukrainian soldier points his weapon at Sloviansk checkpoint, 3 May 2014
Ukrainian troops man checkpoints round the rebel-held town of Sloviansk

Sarah Rainsford
BBC News, Donetsk

A second day of military operations is under way to try to reassert central control here in eastern Ukraine and in particular in the city of Sloviansk, which has become the stronghold of pro-Russian groups.

Ukraine's interior minister has been saying "we will not stop" - suggesting that, unlike in the past when Ukrainian troops have moved in and then withdrawn, these operations will continue.

The interior ministry is also very angry that Moscow has been talking of Kiev carrying out "punitive actions" in the east and that it has been firing on civilians. The government in Ukraine is anxious that it does not give any pretext for Russia to send in its troops. That pretext would be that civilians - Russian-speaking citizens - were in danger and needed protection.

Pro-Russian groups have spoken again of needing peacekeeping troops. That would include Russians coming in to protect civilians - obviously something Kiev wants to avoid.
Commentary: The term "regime" is appropriate. Ukraine has not had a government since Feb 21, 2014.

Mr Lavrov urged Mr Kerry to put pressure on Kiev to stop its military operation, which he said risked "plunging the country into a fratricidal conflict".

Mr Kerry said Moscow should stop backing the pro-Russian separatists.

Both men also discussed the possibility of greater involvement by the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) in trying to find a solution to the crisis.
Commentary: Question to Mr. Kerry would be whether he has any evidence at all that Moscow has any control over millions of ethnic Russians trying to defend themselves from Kiev forces and Right Sector goons organized into the National Guard. The last time he tried to present evidence, it was debunked by a Norwegian newspaper.
 

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MOSCOW — Even as the world's top diplomats were gingerly drafting a tentative accord to "de-escalate tensions" in Ukraine, President Vladimir V. Putin was on national television here, brashly declaring Russia's historical claims over Ukrainian territory, reiterating a threat to use military force and generally sounding a defiant, even mocking, tone toward the United States"¦.

Mr. Putin, appearing cool and confident during a four-hour question-and-answer show, referred repeatedly to southeast Ukraine as "New Russia" — a historical term for the area north of the Black Sea that the Russian Empire conquered in the 1700s. And, he said, only "God knows" why the region became part of Ukraine in the 1920s, signaling that he would gladly correct that error. Mr. Putin's use of the historical term "Novorossiya," or "New Russia," to refer to southeastern Ukraine, which he had not emphasized previously, suggested that he was replicating Russia's assertions of historical ties to the Crimean Peninsula before its occupation and annexation.

Novorossiya generally refers to a broad area, stretching from what is now the border of Moldova in the west to the Russian border in the east, including Donetsk, the port city of Odessa to the south and the industrial center of Dnepropetrovsk to the north. On the question of Ukraine, Mr. Putin repeated his assertions that Russia feels an obligation to protect ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine, where they are a large minority of the population. "We must do everything to help these people to protect their rights and independently determine their own destiny," he said.

"The question is to ensure the rights and interests of the Russian southeast," he added. "It's New Russia. Kharkiv, Lugansk, Donetsk, Odessa were not part of Ukraine in czarist times, they were transferred in 1920. Why? God knows. Then for various reasons these areas were gone, and the people stayed there. We need to encourage them to find a solution."
Source: The Return of Novorossiya | National Review Online
 

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Casualty toll climbs in Ukraine's southeast as bloody clashes continue

MOSCOW, May 04. /ITAR-TASS/. At least one man was killed and two more wounded in Ukraine's eastern city of Lugansk after soldiers opened fire on pro-federalization activists, Russia's Rossiya-24 television channel reported on early Sunday.

According to the television channel, crowds of pro-federalization activists gathered to block a military enlistment office and several military bases in three districts of the city in a protest following reports that additional military forces had arrived in Lugansk from other regions of Ukraine.

"Soldiers decided that protesters intended to attack the military enlistment office and opened fire on them," Rossiya-24 reported.

However, local on-line daily Vostochny Variant reported that protesters seized the military enlistment office in Luhansk and all military servicemen were forced to leave the building.

In a separate development of events, tanks and military armored vehicles "were shooting at peaceful people" after the military hardware entered the eastern city of Konstantinovka in the Donetsk Region, according an activist from the local self-defense forces.

Moreover, he said that "paratroopers descended from helicopters near a television tower and immediately opened fire."

"There are casualties, there are wounded, but the figures are unknown," he was quoted by Rossiya-24 as saying.

According to eyewitness reports, combat tanks also entered Kramatorsk, another city in the Donetsk Region. Reports on combat clashes also come from the region's town of Druzhkovka and the villages of Ivanovka and Pchyolkino. According to various reports, between six and 10 people were killed.

Late on Saturday night military also launched an attack on the municipal authorities building in the city of Mariupol, also located in the Donetsk Region.
Read full: ITAR-TASS: World - Casualty toll climbs in Ukraine's southeast as bloody clashes continue
 

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Behind the Masks in Ukraine, Many Faces of Rebellion

Critique of another NYT demagoguery and mind-priming:

SLOVYANSK, Ukraine — The rebel leader spread a topographic map in front of a closed grocery store here as a Ukrainian military helicopter flew past a nearby hill. Ukrainian troops had just seized positions along a river, about a mile and a half away. The commander thought they might advance.

He issued orders with the authority of a man who had seen many battles. "Go down to the bridge and set up the snipers," the leader, who gave only a first name, Yuri, said to a former Ukrainian paratrooper, who jogged away.

Yuri commands the 12th Company, part of the self-proclaimed People's Militia of the Donetsk People's Republic, a previously unknown and often masked rebel force that since early April has seized government buildings in eastern Ukraine and, until Saturday, held prisoner a team of European military observers it accused of being NATO spies.

His is one of the faces behind the shadowy paramilitary takeover. But even with his mask off, much about his aims, motivations and connections remains murky, illustrating why this expanding conflict is still so complex.
Commentary: C. J. CHIVERS and NOAH SNEIDER, nothing is murky here. You just have no evidence that you are looking for.
Yuri, who appears to be in his mid-50s, is in many ways an ordinary eastern Ukrainian of his generation. A military veteran, he survived the Soviet collapse to own a small construction business in Druzhkovka, about 15 miles south of here.
Commentary: C. J. CHIVERS and NOAH SNEIDER, he is Ukrainian. That is what should matter.
But his rebel stature has a particular root: He is also a former Soviet special forces commander who served in Afghanistan, a background that could make him both authentically local and a capable Kremlin proxy.

In this war, clouded by competing claims on both sides, one persistent mystery has been the identity and affiliations of the militiamen, who have pressed the confrontation between Russia and the West into its latest bitter phase.

Moscow says they are Ukrainians and not part of the Russian armed forces, as the so-called green men in Crimea turned out to be.
Commentary: C. J. CHIVERS and NOAH SNEIDER, Russia was legally allowed to have 25,000 troops in Crimea, and total Russian troops in Crimea never exceeded 16,000. What Putin said is irrelevant, but care to quote him exactly, instead of paraphrasing?
Western officials and the Ukrainian government insist that Russians have led, organized and equipped the fighters.

A deeper look at the 12th Company — during more than a week of visiting its checkpoints, interviewing its fighters and observing them in action against a Ukrainian military advance here on Friday — shows that in its case neither portrayal captures the full story.

The rebels of the 12th Company appear to be Ukrainians but, like many in the region, have deep ties to and affinity for Russia. They are veterans of the Soviet, Ukrainian or Russian Armies, and some have families on the other side of the border. Theirs is a tangled mix of identities and loyalties.

Further complicating the picture, while the fighters share a passionate distrust of Ukraine's government and the Western powers that support it, they disagree among themselves about their ultimate goals. They argue about whether Ukraine should redistribute power via greater federalization or whether the region should be annexed by Russia, and they harbor different views about which side might claim Kiev, the capital, and even about where the border of a divided Ukraine might lie.

Yuri speaks with ambivalence about the possibility of Russian annexation, even as Russia's tri-colored flag fluttered beside the porch where he directed his troops.
Commentary: C. J. CHIVERS and NOAH SNEIDER, if these people were Russian soldiers pretending to be Ukrainians, the last thing they would do is fly the Russian flag.
He says he participated in the seizure of Ukraine's intelligence service building in Donetsk on April 7 and led the capture of this city's police building five days later, twin operations that helped establish the militia's foothold. Videos and photographs of the second attack confirm his story.

Throughout the week, as Ukrainian soldiers sometimes pressed closer, he chuckled at the claims by officials in Kiev and the West that his operations had been guided by Russian military intelligence officers.

There is no Russian master, he said. "We have no Muscovites here," he said. "I have experience enough."

That experience, he and his fighters say, includes four years as a Soviet small-unit commander in Kandahar, Afghanistan, in the 1980s.

The 119 fighters he said he leads, who appear to range in age from their 20s to their 50s, all speak of prior service in Soviet or Ukrainian infantry, airborne, special forces or air-defense units.
Commentary: C. J. CHIVERS and NOAH SNEIDER, that is why they look so organized. They are from a country that had conscription. Anyone could be an ex-soldier.
One, Kostya, served in the post-Soviet Russian Army, where he was a paratrooper. But he too claimed Ukrainian citizenship, which he said he received two years ago after moving to the Donetsk region in 1997 to live near his mother.

Two others said they were from outside eastern Ukraine, one from Odessa, in the south, and the other from Dnipropetrovsk, in the center.

For now, the 12th Company forms part of the front lines in Slovyansk, where its fighters stand at barricades facing the Ukrainian military, with whom the militia has clashed several times.

The company's members wear masks on patrols, which crisscross the city around the clock.

They show signs of discipline, including organizing rotating watches at checkpoints, frequently cleaning their weapons and abstaining from alcohol.

And they claim to have a sprawling network of informers who warn them of Ukrainian military actions as they begin.

All spoke of disgust with the interim authorities in Kiev, who came to power after chasing President Viktor F. Yanukovych from office in February.

They bristled at any suggestion that their seizure of government buildings was wrong. Pro-Western protesters in Kiev have held government buildings and the city's main square since last fall, they said.

"Why did America support those acts, but is in opposition to ours?" said Maksim, the young former paratrooper who organized Yuri's snipers by the bridge. "These are the contradictions of the West."
Commentary: C. J. CHIVERS and NOAH SNEIDER, thank you for pointing this out.
Maksim, like many others, speaks of what he sees as unbreakable cultural, economic and religious ties to Russia and his ideal of a greater Slavic world, which he says is threatened from outside.

The threats, the fighters said, were made clear by a parliamentary proposal in February by the interim authorities in Kiev that would have stripped Russian of its status as an official language in eastern Ukraine. The proposal was vetoed by the interim president, but in the fighters' view the episode signaled an official cultural assault.

"That was a turning point," said Maksim, adjusting a knife tucked against his chest in a black vest.

Several fighters shook their heads at the idea that they had been paid by Russia, by oligarchs or by anybody else.

"This is not a job," said one fighter, Dmitry. "It is a service."

Moreover, if Russia's intelligence services had been helping them, they said, they would have new weapons, not the dated arms visible at their checkpoints and stored in the base where they sleep. During the fighting on Friday, two of the fighters carried hunting shotguns, and the heaviest visible weapon was a sole rocket-propelled grenade.

Much of their stock was identical to the weapons seen in the hands of Ukrainian soldiers and Interior Ministry special forces troops at government positions outside the city. These included 9-millimeter Makarov pistols, Kalashnikov assault rifles and a few Dragunov sniper rifles, RPK light machine guns and portable antitank rockets, including some with production stamps from the 1980s and early 1990s.

Many of the weapons show signs of long service. One, an RPG-7 launcher, looked clean and fresh. The fighters said it had been purchased from Ukrainian soldiers for $2,000, along with 12 high-explosive projectiles.

Militia members said their weapons had either been taken from seized police buildings and a column of captured Ukrainian armored vehicles, or bought from corrupt Ukrainian soldiers.

There was no clear Russian link in the 12th Company's arsenal, but it was not possible to confirm the rebels' descriptions of the sources of their money and equipment.
Commentary: C. J. CHIVERS and NOAH SNEIDER, it is not possible to confirm a lot of things, including the Russia link, that you seem to be trying to establish.
There were, however, indicators of local support.

One afternoon, a crowd labored to build a barricade and a bunker beside a bridge over a canal to the city's west.

At the 12th Company's main base, the home of Tanya and her husband, Lev, residents visited to donate food: homemade pastries, slabs of salted pork fat, a vat of borscht, bags of fresh green onions, jars of pickled vegetables and fruits.

"To the guys in Kiev, we are separatists and terrorists," Yuri said. "But to the people here, we are defenders and protectors."

Tanya, 60, who offered to feed the rebels after her son joined them last month, has assumed the role of company cook. She keeps the table behind the house stacked with food and admonishes the men to eat more whenever they leave bowls of borscht unfinished.

The couple's garage has become a barracks; a shed is now an armory. Camouflage hangs on lines strung from cherry trees.

The militia claims to have mostly good relations with the local police, who have done little to stop them. Many police officers still patrol in rebel territory, accepting the militia's authority while directing traffic or investigating accidents.

Where these militiamen and their backers are trying to steer Ukraine remains a matter of dispute even among the men wearing masks.

In the 12th Company, some hope the eastern provinces can establish autonomy within a federalized Ukraine. Others speak of dividing the nation in two, with much of it joining Russia.
Commentary: C. J. CHIVERS and NOAH SNEIDER, why not mention that is exactly what Putin suggested, to fededralize, while the west harangues on with the annexation strawman.
Asked whether Ukraine should remain one nation, Sergey, a veteran of the Soviet air-defense service, said, "Sure, why not?"

"No, no, no," interjected Dmitry, a younger fighter. "What kind of united Ukraine could there be?"

Later, another fighter, Aleksey, agreed. "In western Ukraine, they showed their faces: Nazis, fascist," he said. "They destroyed monuments to Lenin, attacked our history. Living on one land with them is senseless for us."

Then came the matter of details, where might a new border be, and which side should keep Kiev. "Let Kiev remain there in the west," said Sanya, a huge man with a shaved head who carried a Dragunov sniper rifle. "It's not a problem in principle."

"No, all the way to Kiev!" Dmitry said.

Alexey proposed a border along the Dnieper, the river that runs through Kiev.

"Fine, along the Dnieper," Dmitry said. "Left bank is theirs, right bank is ours."

Whatever the final shape, Yuri said later, Ukraine's interim government must allow a vote or face civil war.

"Either a sea of blood and corpses, or a referendum," he said. "There is no third way."
 

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Odessa erupts into violence again as pro-Russian protesters vent anger against riot police outside burned-out building after 42 killed in riots between rival groups


New front: Pro-Russian activists attack policemen guarding the burned trade union building in Odessa today, after dozens died in street fighting between separatists and government supporters in the city last night


A Pro-Russian activist pulls the hair of a government supporter in an argument outside the burned-out building


Scuffles: Protesters try to snatch a riot policeman, as other officers look on. Police struggled to contain crowds of around 2,000 chanting 'Odessa is a Russian city' who had turned up to lay flowers for those killed last night


Furious protesters drag a riot policeman to the ground: Last night's riot in Odessa, a Black Sea port just west of Crimea, is now by far the most-deadly incident in Ukraine since the February uprising


A protester aims his fist at a policeman: Violence began despite the declaration of a three-day mourning period in Odessa over the deaths in the city last night


Let's look at the darling's of the west:

Despite the loss of life caused by fire, Ukrainian protesters prepare Molotov cocktails for their running clashes with pro-Russian activists

Where were the riots police when this was happening? Good thing they got beaten up by the angry mourners.
 

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Odessa erupts into violence again as pro-Russian protesters vent anger against riot police outside burned-out building after 42 killed in riots between rival groups


New front: Pro-Russian activists attack policemen guarding the burned trade union building in Odessa today, after dozens died in street fighting between separatists and government supporters in the city last night


A Pro-Russian activist pulls the hair of a government supporter in an argument outside the burned-out building


Scuffles: Protesters try to snatch a riot policeman, as other officers look on. Police struggled to contain crowds of around 2,000 chanting 'Odessa is a Russian city' who had turned up to lay flowers for those killed last night


Furious protesters drag a riot policeman to the ground: Last night's riot in Odessa, a Black Sea port just west of Crimea, is now by far the most-deadly incident in Ukraine since the February uprising


A protester aims his fist at a policeman: Violence began despite the declaration of a three-day mourning period in Odessa over the deaths in the city last night


Let's look at the darling's of the west:

Despite the loss of life caused by fire, Ukrainian protesters prepare Molotov cocktails for their running clashes with pro-Russian activists

Where were the riots police when this was happening? Good thing they got beaten up by the angry mourners.

It's clear who are the trouble makers in Ukraine... they pull hairs of Policemen, pull hairs of civilians opposed to their views, punch and kick them, and then hold and shoot automatic firearms. No doubt they were killed by their own molotov cocktails... tragic. Their biggest mistake is that they're so gullible to believe Russian propaganda.
 

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Dozens of FBI, CIA agents in Kiev 'assisting Ukraine security'

Numerous US agents are helping the coup-appointed government in Ukraine to "fight organized crime" in the south east of the country, the German newspaper Bild revealed.

According to the daily, the CIA and FBI are advising the government in Kiev on how to deal with the 'fight against organized crime' and stop the violence in the country's restive eastern regions.

The group also helps to investigate alleged financial crimes and is trying to trace the money, which was reportedly taken abroad during Viktor Yanokovich's presidency, the newspaper said.

The head of the CIA, John Brennan, visited Kiev in mid-April and met with the acting Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk and first Vice-President Vitaly Yarema to discuss a safer way to transfer US information to Ukraine.

Jen Psaki, spokeswomen for the United States Department of State, said that there was nothing to read into Brennan's visit to Kiev, and that the head of the CIA did not offer support to the coup-appointed government in the country to help them conduct tactical operations within Ukraine.

However, following the visit the toppled President Viktor Yanukovich linked the CIA chief's appearance in Kiev to the first stage of the new government's crackdown in Slavyansk.

Brennan "sanctioned the use of weapons and provoked bloodshed," Yanukovich said.

Bild's reports comes as US President Barack Obama rules out that Washington will interfere in the situation in Ukraine.
Source: http://rt.com/news/156692-ukraine-cia-fbi-agents/
 

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Putin's Not Post-Communist, He's Post-Fascist
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All of this is just propaganda.

West intentionally meddled in Ukraine . And the nation is being torn apart by sectarian violence.

It is the relentless expansion of strategic space by EU and Nato that is causing this problem to flare up.

So whatever name one calls Putin, russians and the larger world community will never accept the above view points. not even many in europe will do.

Some western commentators have a habit of disparaging leaders who stand for the vital interests of their own country.
 

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The Maidan protests were about changing a corrupt government which I might say is part of the obligation of the citizenry of a democratic country (although in the end it was not the protesters that caused the removal of Yanukovych but the Parliament with the vote of his own partymates!). But what happened in Crimea and what is happening in Eastern Ukraine is secession upon the encouragement, support and protection of another country (Russia). It is like treason in times of war, siding with another country that wishes to cause harm on your country. This is not just about changing government or protesting corruption, this is already about undermining a country's sovereignty and territorial integrity in favor of another country. And the separatists there are actively helping Russia do it.
See, it is the same line parroted by Nixon - Kissinger administration in 1972 liberation of pakistan despite their own ambassador resigning in disgust over the genocide committed by pakistani troops in the then east pakistan and now bangladesh.

By the same token all the bangladesih-Mukthi bahini freedom fighters are traitors who siding with india to break the tyranny of pakistani oppression against their language and culture.

And the seventh fleet was sent to india to threaten , china was exhorted by Kissinger to attack india in East.

Then why is the US having diplomatic mission in bangladesh?

What is going on in Ukraine now is as much coldwar politics as what was happening in bangladesh in 1972,

We may all interpret events in a manner that suits us with selective proofs, but truth remains the same.West should recognize a sphere of influence which is a legitimate strategic interest of russia as USSR did when kennedy stood up to USSR during Cuban missile ,the USSR N missile deployment in cuba.

Would you have accepted at that time if some one argued ,

since there were no protests in cuba like the euromaidan one and both cuba and USSR were independent countries free to enter into security pacts , so there was nothing wrong in USSR deploying its N missiles in cuba?

Then Kennedy was right according to you, Now Putin becomes a fascist if he does the same for russia?
 
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All of this is just propaganda.

West intentionally meddled in Ukraine . And the nation is being torn apart by sectarian violence.

It is the relentless expansion of strategic space by EU and Nato that is causing this problem to flare up.

So whatever name one calls Putin, russians and the larger world community will never accept the above view points. not even many in europe will do.

Some western commentators have a habit of disparaging leaders who stand for the vital interests of their own country.
You are right about last line completely.
 

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Source: http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/
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It might also be a ploy to subdue the Russian speaking people of Ukraine. There are plenty of radicals in Poland.

It's next bullshit made by russian propaganda.
In fact is pure nonsense.

What more - @pmaitra - can you admite NOW that there is no single polish army concentration near estern poland borders?
I was talking maany times that this info is fake and bullshit but you @pmaitra and user @happy was posting so many strange post taken from russian sites about polish army concentration near ukrinian borders. I was talking that it was totall fake and fairy tails.
You just said that you doont know what is true you just post "infos".

Can You now adimte that sucht infos was faken and compleltly false?

What more -the same story is in case quoted aboce "news". It;s the same story.
 
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Radicals shooting at people in Odessa's burning building caught on tape

New video has emerged online which shows a man shooting at the windows of Odessa's burning House of Trade Unions.

Still from YouTube video/RomanDorogniyKontrol

New video has emerged online which shows a man shooting at the windows of Odessa's burning House of Trade Unions.
Одесса. Сотник Микола стреляет [02.05.2014] - YouTube

Another video of the same man shows him speaking on the phone passionately arguing that he and his people are unarmed, while having to confront armed anti-government protesters. The man introduces himself as sotnik Mykola ("sotnik" is what Maidan group leaders in Kiev call themselves) He also says he was wounded in the leg by protesters, although he doesn't look hurt in the footage.
Сотник Микола докладывает ситуацию об Одессе 2 мая 2014 года - YouTube

Survivors of the fire say they had to barricade themselves inside the House of Trade Unions, to hide from an aggressive mob, which had torched their tent camp.

Radicals then began throwing Molotov cocktails at the Trade Unions building, setting it on fire. Witnesses say that those who managed to escape the fire, were severely beaten outside by the besiegers of the burning building.

"We couldn't go down, we were seeing people from other floors being brought down and then those rioters down there attacked them like a pack of wolves," a survivor of the fire, who was hiding on the roof of the building, told RT.

Afraid of falling into the hands of radicals, people didn't leave the House of Trade Unions, where dozens eventually burnt alive, suffocated or jumped out of windows.
Source: http://rt.com/news/156664-odessa-fire-radicals-shoot/
 

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It's next bullshit made by russian propaganda.
In fact is pure nonsense.

What more - @pmaitra - can you admite NOW that there is no single polish army concentration near estern poland borders?
I was talking maany times that this info is fake and bullshit but you @pmaitra and user @happy was posting so many strange post taken from russian sites about polish army concentration near ukrinian borders. I was talking that it was totall fake and fairy tails.
You just said that you doont know what is true you just post "infos".

Can You now adimte that sucht infos was faken and compleltly false?

What more -the same story is in case quoted aboce "news". It;s the same story.
I don't know. I have heard some disturbing news.

We will never know what is true, and even if true, western media will not report it.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/poland...azi-militants-for-euromaidan-protests/5378129
 
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Poland and Baltics have a long history of enmity with Russia, since the days of Polish-Lithuanian Confederacy. It might also be a ploy to subdue the Russian speaking people of Ukraine. There are plenty of radicals in Poland.
Poland is escalating this war and spreading the war across many countries.
 
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