Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

[Kunal Biswas]

The front have Heavy ERA module just like on Black Eagle..

 

[Damian]

How do You that this is ERA module? I would not be so fast to speculate without more data and before the real vehicle will be shown to the public.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

The Gun looks like 120mm M-393..

Perhaps same deign but bigger caliber..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

How do You that this is ERA module? I would not be so fast to speculate without more data and before the real vehicle will be shown to the public.

I am keeping my views as speculation for now..

 

[Damian]

AFAIK the gun for "Armata" was designated 2A82, but nobody seen that gun yet, it is a 125mm gun.

 

[Akim]

Regarding lungs wheeled and tracked platforms - should agree a long ago it is necessary to pass to new. In regarding "Armata" - not sure. Т-90МА it yet not apogee development of Т- 72. He can be perfected, putting new FCS, gun 2А82, more power engine, to take away the automatic loading in feed part of turret, to strengthen the complexes systems of protection.
To pass to the new model of tank - expensive pleasure. Even rich Germans "dancing" near Leopard 2. And in the Bundeswehr yet remained and Leo-1A5. We have a proverb: "On the paper of written beautifully, and in the real life not all so simply" ( Гладко было на бумаге, да забыли про овраги - rus.)

 

[Kunal Biswas]

The main concept of Armata program is to have a common chassis for all Major track based Weapon systems, which will reduce logistical chain and easy available spare parts..

 

[kaustav2001]

Models of new Russian Universal Combat Platforms.

UCP "Boomerang" and tracked UCP "Kurganets".

Interesting - 1st one is a mortar, 2& 3rd ones look like SPH (look kinda compact though...) the MSTA is a beast, the 3rd one looks the most interesting.

 

[Akim]

The main concept of Armata program is to have a common chassis for all Major track based Weapon systems, which will reduce logistical chain and easy available spare parts..

Standardization with the past models of tanks will be only in the caliber of gun. A machine will be weighs more than 55 tons, and in her all will be a new.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Models of new Russian Universal Combat Platforms.

Crew:

 

[Akim]

W.G.Ewald is right. An author named in the article "Rogozin examines modelki ( toy of cars, airplanes, tanks )

Model

Modelki (many)

 

[methos]

Regarding lungs wheeled and tracked platforms - should agree a long ago it is necessary to pass to new. In regarding "Armata" - not sure. Т-90МА it yet not apogee development of Т- 72. He can be perfected, putting new FCS, gun 2А82, more power engine, to take away the automatic loading in feed part of turret, to strengthen the complexes systems of protection.
To pass to the new model of tank - expensive pleasure. Even rich Germans "dancing" near Leopard 2. And in the Bundeswehr yet remained and Leo-1A5. We have a proverb: "On the paper of written beautifully, and in the real life not all so simply" ( Гладко было на бумаге, да забыли про овраги - rus.)

Germany always had two main battle tanks during the Cold War, so that there was always one version with up-to-date combat value and one older one which should be replaced. At first it were the M47 and the M48, then the M48 and the Leopard 1, and ultimately the Leopard 1 and the Leopard 2.
The Leopard 1 remained only so long in service because the next German tank programme was delayed several times. At first it was a cooperation with Britain (which was canceled because the Germans favoured a design which was to radical/new for the Brittons), then with the French (which was canceled after the French wanted a different weight limit and an earlier date for serial production). Then Germany started development alone on their own, but this was cancelled because of the reunification. Without the reunification (which costed by far more than the development and introduction of a new tank) there would have probably be a new non-Leopard 1A5 tank in ~1995.

I am not sure what you ment with "yet remained and Leo-1A5"... do you mean that the Leopard 1A5 would still be in service? If so, no.

The latest T-90 tanks are as much a T-72 as the T-84 is a T-64.

 

[Scalieback]

Responding to the wrong point, mods please delete

 

[W.G.Ewald]

The latest T-90 tanks are as much a T-72 as the T-84 is a T-64.

That is something I did not know.

 

[Scalieback]

That is something I did not know.

T-90 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The T-90 is a Russian third-generation main battle tank that is a modernisation of the T-72 (it was originally to be called the T-72BU, later renamed to T-90).

T84 comes from the T80: T-80 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The T-80 is a main battle tank (MBT) designed and manufactured in the former Soviet Union. A development of the T-64, it entered service in 1976 and was the first production tank to be equipped with a gas turbine engine for main

 

[Damian]

Alexei Khlopotov said on his blog, that this model is not a model of MBT based on UCP "Armata" but something new and unknown. Perhaps a competing project from different company. "Armata" is designed by UVZ, this seems to be a different company factory.

 

[Akim]

T-90 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


T84 comes from the T80: T-80 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

T-64 with a GTE (700 k.p.) 1974

 

[Damian]

Seems that history of Soviet Tank is not well known outside states of the former Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact.

T-64 was first, from T-64 two other tanks were developed, T-72 and T-80. In fact both of them T-72 and T-80 at the begginign were just T-64 with different engines than the original Morozov project. But in time, design teams from Nizhny Tagil and Leningrad, changed design so much that both created a new tanks in fact.

 

[Akim]

Alexei Khlopotov said on his blog, that this model is not a model of MBT based on UCP "Armata" but something and unknown. Perhaps a competing project from different company. "Armata" is designed by UVZ, this seems to be a different company factory.

It is fundamentally unimportant. "Armata" however a tank is needed yet about 15.

 

[Scalieback]

Seems that history of Soviet Tank is not well known outside states of the former Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact.

T-64 was first, from T-64 two other tanks were developed, T-72 and T-80. In fact both of them T-72 and T-80 at the begginign were just T-64 with different engines than the original Morozov project. But in time, design teams from Nizhny Tagil and Leningrad, changed design so much that both created a new tanks in fact.

IIRC T64 was only ever issued to Russian and E German units. T72 for export? T80 improved on them all and then came T90.

Years spent looking at track/wheel layouts, fume extractors and where the snorkel lay