LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

[IndianHawk]

A truly modern plane is not just a box but a design which can evolve through time.

Lca is that. It started as a humble mig21 replacer and is now being spawned into mk1a , mwf ,lca sport trainer .

It can incorporate latest radar ( aesa) and largest bvr ( derby Astra even meteor if allowed and in future sfdr.)
All modern available and upcoming weaponary such as bramhos NG , lgb , pgm etc.

Will have ew suite and mk1a itself will have limited sensor fusion which will grow full blown with mwf.

That's what a modern plane is. Which has ability and space and power to incorporate technology of not just today but of next two- three decades.

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[IndianHawk]

The article I posted says in the CURRENT form tejas is not on par with modern fighterjets. Current form means strictly mk1 , not even mk1a .

Range is short for mk1 , engine is not powerful enough for carrying big load of weapons. Aesa radar is not there .

Article is bullshit. Complaining about range and payload for a fighter whose size was restricted to be that of mig21 is just stupid. They should have designed mwf from get go if they wanted more payload and range.

Aesa is not is mk1. But where is aesa in iaf inventory only on few jaguars? It's not on su30mki , it's not on upgraded mirage , it's not on mig29 ?

Anyway it can always be added to mk1 with upgrade ( which is already planned iirc) . World over fighter aircrafts go through evolution. USA f15 are currently getting aesa. No body called them obsolete because they didn't had aesa for past many years. Even golden boy rafale got an aesa just a few years ago.a

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[Bleh]

It would be interesting to see what IAF thinks of Tejas in terms of it's air-air capability.

That may be kinda limited for IOC Tejas... It lacks SPJ, is a bit underpowered, aerodynamics has room for improvement, limited to <8G.

It's manoeuvres we've seen are very conservative. I read that it's flight software doesn't let it overshoot the specified G-limit.

Complaining about range and payload for a fighter whose size was restricted to be that of mig21 is just stupid. They should have designed mwf from get go if they wanted more payload and range.

Tejas's range is double that of Mig-21s, plus it can take better external tank in any of it's 5 pylons... FOC (right now only in some LSP models) with AAR.

 

[patriots]

For comparing Tejas with mig 21


https://www.quora.com/How-is-the-LC...G-21-Why-is-the-Tejas-so-important-for-India#


Read this one...very well written by soikot Banerjee
Tejas Vs jf17

https://www.quora.com/Is-Tejas-or-the-JF-17-better

 

[patriots]

Tejas still to match modern fighters
"Tejas", the home-built jet, was meant to be a replacement for MiG-21s but even after four decades in the making, the aircraft is still undergoing the process of induction.
By IANS | Updated: Aug 26, 2019, 10.17 AM IST

BCCL
LCA Tejas (File Photo)
NEW DELHI: A more potent version of Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) matching current generation of fighters is not expected to be available to the Indian Air Force before 2025.

"Tejas", the home-built jet, was meant to be a replacement for MiG-21s but even after four decades in the making, the aircraft is still undergoing the process of induction.




The LCA got Final Operational Clearance (FOC) from the Centre for Military Airworthiness and Certification (CEMILAC) only earlier this year. The certification confirmed Tejas as a multi-role fighter with capabilities like beyond visual range air-to-air and air-to-ground attack capabilities and longer endurance through mid-air refuelling.

Despite these advanced features, Tejas in its current form is only an improved version of MiG-21 but it falls short when compared to other modern day fighters.
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Even the production of these variant is slow with Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) delivering only about a dozen of them so far. The IAF is looking for more numbers as Tejas is meant to strengthen the air defence capabilities. The current variant of the aircraft has the same role as MiG-21s.

The follow up versions of LCA Mk 1 (a) and LCA-Mk 2 will be the improved version of Tejas.
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The LCA Mk 1 (a) will have improved serviceability, faster weapon loading time, enhanced survivability, bettter electronic warfare suit and AESA radar significantly enhancing its capability.

The LCA Mk 2 will be a bigger aircraft (1.6 meters longer) with a wider wing span (0.6 meter). It will have more powerful GE 414 engine. Because of size and power the aircraft will be able to carry much more load. Its weight will go up from 4 tonne to 6.5 tonne.


As of now, 40 Mk 1 and 83 Mk1 (a) have been ordered by IAF. The orders for Mk 2 will be placed as and when the aircraft starts flying. The LCA Mk 1 (a) will fly in 2022, according to the current schedule.

Out of the first 40 Tejas ordered by IAF, only 20 will be FOC certified.

The officials said that the production line needs to be enhanced substantially to deliver the aircraft to IAF. The HAL has managed to achieve a rate of eight aircraft per year as against 16 to 17 produced by big manufacturer.

 

[IndianHawk]

Tejas still to match modern fighters
"Tejas", the home-built jet, was meant to be a replacement for MiG-21s but even after four decades in the making, the aircraft is still undergoing the process of induction.
By IANS | Updated: Aug 26, 2019, 10.17 AM IST

BCCL
LCA Tejas (File Photo)
NEW DELHI: A more potent version of Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) matching current generation of fighters is not expected to be available to the Indian Air Force before 2025.

"Tejas", the home-built jet, was meant to be a replacement for MiG-21s but even after four decades in the making, the aircraft is still undergoing the process of induction.




The LCA got Final Operational Clearance (FOC) from the Centre for Military Airworthiness and Certification (CEMILAC) only earlier this year. The certification confirmed Tejas as a multi-role fighter with capabilities like beyond visual range air-to-air and air-to-ground attack capabilities and longer endurance through mid-air refuelling.

Despite these advanced features, Tejas in its current form is only an improved version of MiG-21 but it falls short when compared to other modern day fighters.
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Even the production of these variant is slow with Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) delivering only about a dozen of them so far. The IAF is looking for more numbers as Tejas is meant to strengthen the air defence capabilities. The current variant of the aircraft has the same role as MiG-21s.

The follow up versions of LCA Mk 1 (a) and LCA-Mk 2 will be the improved version of Tejas.
ADVERTISEMENT



The LCA Mk 1 (a) will have improved serviceability, faster weapon loading time, enhanced survivability, bettter electronic warfare suit and AESA radar significantly enhancing its capability.

The LCA Mk 2 will be a bigger aircraft (1.6 meters longer) with a wider wing span (0.6 meter). It will have more powerful GE 414 engine. Because of size and power the aircraft will be able to carry much more load. Its weight will go up from 4 tonne to 6.5 tonne.


As of now, 40 Mk 1 and 83 Mk1 (a) have been ordered by IAF. The orders for Mk 2 will be placed as and when the aircraft starts flying. The LCA Mk 1 (a) will fly in 2022, according to the current schedule.

Out of the first 40 Tejas ordered by IAF, only 20 will be FOC certified.

The officials said that the production line needs to be enhanced substantially to deliver the aircraft to IAF. The HAL has managed to achieve a rate of eight aircraft per year as against 16 to 17 produced by big manufacturer.

Buddy read up. We just debunked this very article and you have posted it all over again.
Tch.

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[Shekhar Singh]

Tejas still to match modern fighters
"Tejas", the home-built jet, was meant to be a replacement for MiG-21s but even after four decades in the making, the aircraft is still undergoing the process of induction.
By IANS | Updated: Aug 26, 2019, 10.17 AM IST

BCCL
LCA Tejas (File Photo)
NEW DELHI: A more potent version of Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) matching current generation of fighters is not expected to be available to the Indian Air Force before 2025.

"Tejas", the home-built jet, was meant to be a replacement for MiG-21s but even after four decades in the making, the aircraft is still undergoing the process of induction.




The LCA got Final Operational Clearance (FOC) from the Centre for Military Airworthiness and Certification (CEMILAC) only earlier this year. The certification confirmed Tejas as a multi-role fighter with capabilities like beyond visual range air-to-air and air-to-ground attack capabilities and longer endurance through mid-air refuelling.

Despite these advanced features, Tejas in its current form is only an improved version of MiG-21 but it falls short when compared to other modern day fighters.
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Even the production of these variant is slow with Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) delivering only about a dozen of them so far. The IAF is looking for more numbers as Tejas is meant to strengthen the air defence capabilities. The current variant of the aircraft has the same role as MiG-21s.

The follow up versions of LCA Mk 1 (a) and LCA-Mk 2 will be the improved version of Tejas.
ADVERTISEMENT



The LCA Mk 1 (a) will have improved serviceability, faster weapon loading time, enhanced survivability, bettter electronic warfare suit and AESA radar significantly enhancing its capability.

The LCA Mk 2 will be a bigger aircraft (1.6 meters longer) with a wider wing span (0.6 meter). It will have more powerful GE 414 engine. Because of size and power the aircraft will be able to carry much more load. Its weight will go up from 4 tonne to 6.5 tonne.


As of now, 40 Mk 1 and 83 Mk1 (a) have been ordered by IAF. The orders for Mk 2 will be placed as and when the aircraft starts flying. The LCA Mk 1 (a) will fly in 2022, according to the current schedule.

Out of the first 40 Tejas ordered by IAF, only 20 will be FOC certified.

The officials said that the production line needs to be enhanced substantially to deliver the aircraft to IAF. The HAL has managed to achieve a rate of eight aircraft per year as against 16 to 17 produced by big manufacturer.

Exam me aayega kya? Why are you posting it again and again.

 

[patriots]

Buddy read up. We just debunked this very article and you have posted it all over again.
Tch.

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Bhai I know....

People are so called defence journos are writing those shits just to earn .some bucks

Bdw I see Tejas ioc and foc as mk1a
As once mk1a flies.....then hal will upgrade ioc and foc variant s to mk1a ..when iaf will need

 

[sorcerer]

83 LCAs Order: HAL may finally agree to lower price

Earlier price....................450 cr/aircraft
Possible new price..........275 cr/aircraft

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

THIS ARTICLE coupled with the LCA is a paid article to THWART our EXPORT POTENTIAL..
now that a few are in line with a few nations showing interest.

 

[dumdumdum]

The only real practical way to shut such articles up is for IAF to induct Tejas MK1A in large numbers. No country will look at such articles if they see a top notch, professional & battle hardened outfit like IAF using it in large numbers

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

That article is a typical media hitjob sponsored by foreign arms manufacturers who want to sell MMRCA 2.0. The journalist has no credibility whatsoever. Tejas has endured such media hitjobs ever since its first flight in 2001. Nothing new in that. But each time it has come out stronger.

 

[tejas warrior]

Brazil calling...
LCA Tejas

 

[tarunraju]

Guys,

In mid-2018 MoD asked HAL to review pricing of Tejas-1A within a fixed period of time. Does anyone know the outcome of that review?

Maybe GoI's lollypop to HAL consists of 72x Su-30MKI follow-up order, and 54x Tejas-1A if the price is right.

In return they could ask HAL to STFU about the follow-up Rafale order for 36 additional fly-aways in Q4 (after MH/HR elections).

 

[patriots]

@porky_kicker @Enquirer

@tejas warrior
@IndianHawk

Bdw how an auxiliary air intake will help......
Will it increase speed or what please enlight

 

[patriots]

Again...
One doubt
We know Tejas ioc top speed will be 1.6 Mach
And Tejas foc speed 1.8 Mach...

How with same ebgeng same airframe.

Are we restricting the speed as we have allowed only max 6g in ioc


By some software .

@porky_kicker @Enquirer

@tejas warrior
@IndianHawk

 

[Saichand K]

@porky_kicker @Enquirer

@tejas warrior
@IndianHawk

Bdw how an auxiliary air intake will help......
Will it increase speed or what please enlight

It could increase the efficiency of the engine. Thereby, for the same fuel the operating range would be further improved.

 

[Saichand K]

Again...
One doubt
We know Tejas ioc top speed will be 1.6 Mach
And Tejas foc speed 1.8 Mach...

How with same ebgeng same airframe.

Are we restricting the speed as we have allowed only max 6g in ioc


By some software .

@porky_kicker @Enquirer

@tejas warrior
@IndianHawk

The speed was restricted in IOC version to 1.6 Mach to 8G (not 6G). This will see an increase to 1.8Mach and 8.5G (in FOC version) as already demonstrated by Tejas in Bahrain Airshow. Further, the AOA and STR will also change accordingly.

 

[patriots]

The speed was restricted in IOC version to 1.6 Mach to 8G (not 6G). This will see an increase to 1.8Mach and 8.5G (in FOC version) as already demonstrated by Tejas in Bahrain Airshow. Further, the AOA and STR will also change accordingly.

No Bhai in ioc the pull is restricted to 6g..
So... discussed before here........

 

[IndianHawk]

Guys,

In mid-2018 MoD asked HAL to review pricing of Tejas-1A within a fixed period of time. Does anyone know the outcome of that review?

Maybe GoI's lollypop to HAL consists of 72x Su-30MKI follow-up order, and 54x Tejas-1A if the price is right.

In return they could ask HAL to STFU about the follow-up Rafale order for 36 additional fly-aways in Q4 (after MH/HR elections).

The outcome is that HAL is now offering price of 250-275 crore per mk1a as against 450cr before .



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[IndianHawk]

Again...
One doubt
We know Tejas ioc top speed will be 1.6 Mach
And Tejas foc speed 1.8 Mach...

How with same ebgeng same airframe.

Are we restricting the speed as we have allowed only max 6g in ioc


By some software .

@porky_kicker @Enquirer

@tejas warrior
@IndianHawk

Afaik we are just taking things slowly. As you see performance in Bahrain was pushing the envelope.

Secondly foc represents better manufacturing , better build quality and probably more tolerances in aircraft structure hence increased speed.



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