LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

[dude00720]

ORCA imo is waste of time more than anything else. Focus on Tejas SPORT, MK-1A and MK-2 and AMCA. The next twin engine fighter should a 5th gen one. Eitherway 36-54 Rafale are virtually a done deal just a matter of time when there funds are made available.

After the Corona virus. There is a chance economy might contract. Bad news for Rafale deal. What kind of numbers are we expecting for 54 planes?

 

[ashdoc]

After the Corona virus. There is a chance economy might contract. Bad news for Rafale deal. What kind of numbers are we expecting for 54 planes?

Yeah , only good thing is that Pakistan economy and mortality rate will be worse than ours after corona .

 

[dude00720]

Yeah , only good thing is that Pakistan economy and mortality rate will be worse than ours after corona .

Pakistan will deal in 2nd hand planes. Main thing is chinese mass production. Btw, Chinese dont have a great engine and neither do they have access to GE.

 

[Karthi]

Fire extinguishant bottle of Tejas . The system activated on initiation of cartridge manually by Push-button selection or automatically by a crash warning switch located in the airframe.

 

[Flying Dagger]

Its Basically A Nil Factor As Chinese AESA KLJ-7 110 Km for 3m2 for look down

What matters Is Quality Of EW And ability of BVRAAM's to Lock target And get firing solutions

During 27 feb All MKI's Detected F-16 Prior to themselves get Detected due to PESA advantage
but What Mattered Is Long Range envelope of Aim-120C5 Which Locked And launched Prior To R-77


Elta 2052 has detection range of 150-175 3m2 for LCA type fighters

Due to Low RCS of LCA loaded It Will be near 2- 3m2
While J-10 Will be 7-8m2

I Think With Derby ER & ASRAAM range advantage LCA Will be at better Advantage And Will have Higher NEZ ratio in there Favor

J 10 c employs new AeSA radar with 170+ range for 3m2 with 1200 + Trm

How did you came to conclusion that J 10 RCS will be 8 m2 ? Is their any data you can show ?

When loaded Tejas will be 3m2 around . We don't have any data except one old statement which said the clean configuration RCS will be one third due to size.

Elta radar on Tejas is adjusted to be fit on small nose size of Tejas it's trm are almost halved at 800 around. The GaN version isn't available now.. and mk2 will have uttam aesa in that case.. tracking range will be lower.

Anyway rest as I have said we definitely have an advantage with Derby ER and ASRAAM .

Since we don't know if their long range weapons are actually as effective as they claim them to be.

 

[samsaptaka]

Even 62 was a strategic blunder by mao! It only gained China enmity of India for eternity , forced Pacifit India to emerge as a nuclear and military power. Kudos to ccp for long term planning .lol.

Their sun tsutyapa is going bust with their demographic collapse. China will only become a superpower of old age homes. Lol.

Trump and modi will puncture their bloated military and mostly old population without Young blood China will be staring at everlasting stagflation.

Sun Tzu my ass ! These chinks took all the martial knowledge from us and now the world quotes Sun Tzu .....
Sun Tzu is just a b-grade rip off of Chanakya !

 

[Karthi]

http://fullafterburner.weebly.com/next-gen-weapons/lca-tejas-lethal-compact-agile-part-1

An old article but give it a read May u people will get something new

 

[samsaptaka]

Can anyone tell me why Derby was chosen as the AAM to be integrated into Tejas instead of indegenous Astra ? Should have gone for Astra Are the import loving forces to blame here ? Or is there some technical reason ?

 

[Karthi]

Sun Tzu my ass ! These chinks took all the martial knowledge from us and now the world quotes Sun Tzu .....
Sun Tzu is just a b-grade rip off of Chanakya !

Their KungFu also developed by an Indian An old Buddhist monk who is a Kalaripayattu and yoga master , these Chinkies are worshipping him even today .

 

[Karthi]

Can anyone tell me why Derby was chosen as the AAM to be integrated into Tejas instead of indegenous Astra ? Should have gone for Astra Are the import loving forces to blame here ? Or is there some technical reason ?

Both ASTRA and Derby there . .

 

[Hydra3]

Yeah , only good thing is that Pakistan economy and mortality rate will be worse than ours after corona .

"We may eat grass, but we will have the bomb" that was their mantra. They keep on inducting new weapons.

 

[Flying Dagger]

http://fullafterburner.weebly.com/next-gen-weapons/lca-tejas-lethal-compact-agile-part-1

An old article but give it a read May u people will get something new

Amalgation of all what we have read through different forums... Definitely a good job.

Who is the writer/blogger ?

 

[Flying Dagger]

Can anyone tell me why Derby was chosen as the AAM to be integrated into Tejas instead of indegenous Astra ? Should have gone for Astra Are the import loving forces to blame here ? Or is there some technical reason ?

Derby ER is the longest spear we have.. and a tested one. (160km) As meteor isn't available for Tejas this is the best we can get.

Astra is on Tejas too as medium range (80km-110km)

Derby is definitely in another league right now in terms of electronics radar anti-jamming etc.

Astra will be the standard weapon of IAF throughout its inventory and evolve with mk2 version.

But why do you have problem with Derby are you another Pro Pak dove ?

 

[Flying Dagger]

Can someone provide the cost difference of European radars/Thales radar offered for Tejas vs Israeli Radar..

I know Israelis are with us on Uttam and other projects but just wanted to know

 

[ashdoc]

"We may eat grass, but we will have the bomb" that was their mantra. They keep on inducting new weapons.

Yes , but economic difficulties do reduce the propensity to go to war .

 

[Saichand K]

Derby ER is the longest spear we have.. and a tested one. (160km) As meteor isn't available for Tejas this is the best we can get.

Astra is on Tejas too as medium range (80km-110km)

Derby is definitely in another league right now in terms of electronics radar anti-jamming etc.

Astra will be the standard weapon of IAF throughout its inventory and evolve with mk2 version.

But why do you have problem with Derby are you another Pro Pak dove ?

Really? Didnot know that Derby-ER has a range of 160km ? Source ? How does Derby-ER and Astra costwise compare?

 

[Anathema]

Derby ER is the longest spear we have.. and a tested one. (160km) As meteor isn't available for Tejas this is the best we can get.

Astra is on Tejas too as medium range (80km-110km)

Derby is definitely in another league right now in terms of electronics radar anti-jamming etc.

Astra will be the standard weapon of IAF throughout its inventory and evolve with mk2 version.

But why do you have problem with Derby are you another Pro Pak dove ?

Derby ER is tested ? From which platform ? Derby ER is not yet integrated as per my information. Is it even operational in Israel air force ?

 

[Saichand K]

Derby ER is tested ? From which platform ? Derby ER is not yet integrated as per my information. Is it even operational in Israel air force ?

As far as I know, I-Derby-ER is tested and integrated on Tejas. It is also being planned on Su-30MKI after Feb27th, 2019.
https://www.janes.com/article/88867/iaf-plans-to-arm-its-su-30mki-fleet-with-i-derby-er-bvraams

 

[Anathema]

As far as I know, I-Derby-ER is tested and integrated on Tejas. It is also being planned on Su-30MKI after Feb27th, 2019.
https://www.janes.com/article/88867/iaf-plans-to-arm-its-su-30mki-fleet-with-i-derby-er-bvraams

No. Only Derby is integrated with Tejas (not Derby-ER)

 

[Saichand K]

No. Only Derby is integrated with Tejas (not Derby-ER)

Please check the janes website link which I gave. Generally, the info in jane's website is reliable.