LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

[IndianHawk]

The way, the chinese behave. It is classic San-Tzu. Win the war, without fighting the battle. Even their Great wall of China was supposed to stop the XiongNu. That ofcourse did not work. Their only battle they won was 1962, which was thanks to Nehru and his cohorts .

We dont need to be afraid of them in any way. Man-2-man we are much better.

Even 62 was a strategic blunder by mao! It only gained China enmity of India for eternity , forced Pacifit India to emerge as a nuclear and military power. Kudos to ccp for long term planning .lol.

Their sun tsutyapa is going bust with their demographic collapse. China will only become a superpower of old age homes. Lol.

Trump and modi will puncture their bloated military and mostly old population without Young blood China will be staring at everlasting stagflation.

 

[Mindrapper]

And i will admit that majority of ISIS active members are from kerala & Telungana. Tyese two states produced a good number of pigs.

Nobody cares! Stick to the topic, else leave it for others to have a good discussion. Stop being an irritant.

 

[IndianHawk]

LCA mk1A unit price is around 42 million dollars . 42×83 ~ 3.5 billion, ~ 1.7 billion for spares , maintenance , various line testers , test and training systems , engines , consumables etc etc

That's a very reasonable price , good things don't come cheap .

And why the fuck anybody wants to compare the bander with LCA ?

True . Exactly. Bandar is a crappy old shit.
The only comparable fighter to lca mk1a is gripe c/d by size as both have Western engine/radar and weapons. But mk1a also has aesa . And yet lca mk1a beats the price of gripen c/d ( adjusted for inflation.)

It's a steal. Remember how Thai gripen c/d beat Chinese j11 in bvr! Lca mk1a is even more deadly with powerful aesa and longer range bvr Astra / derby er. It will wipe the floor with unupgraded porky f16 which doesn't have aesa! Forget about bandar . Bandar will fly to hide in Afghanistan border at the first sign of lca mk1a

 

[fire starter]

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[Snowcat]

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They need a better design for the screen layouts, just my two cents. Rafale and gripen have a great looking cockpit, Maybe they should work it out for the mk1A

 

[Hydra3]

True . Exactly. Bandar is a crappy old shit.
The only comparable fighter to lca mk1a is gripe c/d by size as both have Western engine/radar and weapons. But mk1a also has aesa . And yet lca mk1a beats the price of gripen c/d ( adjusted for inflation.)

It's a steal. Remember how Thai gripen c/d beat Chinese j11 in bvr! Lca mk1a is even more deadly with powerful aesa and longer range bvr Astra / derby er. It will wipe the floor with unupgraded porky f16 which doesn't have aesa! Forget about bandar . Bandar will fly to hide in Afghanistan border at the first sign of lca mk1a

It was in in an air exercise, our mig21 has defeated the mighty f15 in indo us air exercise. Rule of game dictates the outcome over there. That doesn't mean that mig21 is superior to f15 or gripen is superior to j11

 

[IndianHawk]

It was in in an air exercise, our mig21 has defeated the mighty f15 in indo us air exercise. Rule of game dictates the outcome over there. That doesn't mean that mig21 is superior to f15 or gripen is superior to j11

Mig21 didn't defeat f15. It sneaked upon f15 while working with su30mki in conjunction. It was a victory of tactics.

In j11 vs Thai gripen in bvr gripen had the longer stick and better anti jamming . Chinese did better in wvr but gripen lacked helmet mounted sight.

Lca mk1a will have both long sticks ( Astra+ derby er) and dash+ r73/ asraam. It will prevail in both bvr and wvr against most of chini air Force .

 

[Kchontha]

Mk1a will be definitely a beast in the sky whatever the price we are building an industrial ecosystem that will leverage other development Luke m2, orca/tedbf, and amca. This ecosystem is what every import lobbyist n others pimps didn't want to fructify... Jai hoh.....

 

[dude00720]

It was in in an air exercise, our mig21 has defeated the mighty f15 in indo us air exercise. Rule of game dictates the outcome over there. That doesn't mean that mig21 is superior to f15 or gripen is superior to j11

AFAIK, BVR locks were not allowed in the air exercise.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

They need a better design for the screen layouts, just my two cents. Rafale and gripen have a great looking cockpit, Maybe they should work it out for the mk1A

Well the design harks back to the late 90s and early 2000s.
One defining feature of LCA is that it had a glass cockpit right from it's inception.

 

[Hari Sud]

There is misinformation on the web with current LCA not having its close encounter gun installed. As per the rumour it was successfully tested three or four years back but still not installed.

‘There must be a good reason for its non installation on the LCA and LCA1A but we do not know. Hence before the Pakistanis make a hay out of this, IAF or somebody more knowledgeable should give a good explanation for this.

Historical example is the Vietnam war era new Phantom jet not having a close encounter gun. It was not installed because, it was felt that missiles will do the job better. To the utter American’s surprise they found it as a mistake, hence future generations had gun installed.

‘Please do comment......

 

[Hydra3]

Mk1a will be definitely a beast in the sky whatever the price we are building an industrial ecosystem that will leverage other development Luke m2, orca/tedbf, and amca. This ecosystem is what every import lobbyist n others pimps didn't want to fructify... Jai hoh.....

Mk1a is not going to be beast, its just decent fighter with aesa. The real beast will be mk2, actual mirage successor. And i dont think orca/tedbf ever will take of, we simply dont have money & time to materialize it. AMCA will get delayed if we started orca program.

 

[Hydra3]

AFAIK, BVR locks were not allowed in the air exercise.

Mig21 has make used the loop hole of f15 radars, algorithm dont allow the radar to pick low speed objects in air, mig21 used that tactics to defeat f15s. Dont know yankees have fixed that oblm or not.

 

[Hari Sud]

Watch for Hydra3. He is masquerading as an Indian.

 

[noobmaster69]

"The procurement cost of $5.3 billion covers 73 single-seat Tejas Mk1As and 10 twin-seat trainers in addition to sensors, weapons and associated equipment and spares support from HAL for a period of two years, a company official tells FlightGlobal."
(A few people need to see this!)
https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-...ers-passes-bureaucratic-hurdle/137396.article

 

[fire starter]

Tejas has secured, jam-proof voice & data comms operates in the V/UHF band and employs a single LRU based, software-driven integrated communication (INCOM).
Frequency: 108 to 400MHz
Can communicate over 9200 channel with AM/FM and DATA modes
Its multi-directional data link can transfer data minimum at 8Kb/s...fitted along wth INCOM unit.
CAPS
Multiplexed voice and data share

Real-time reception and transmission(A to GES, Awacs or A).

MAX situational awareness

 

[south block]

1. We are deliberately not purchasing the shorter range missiles of S400 system because we already have other missiles in that class, akash and MRSAM.
2. The range of S400 is close to 400 km. In most places, the entire depth of Pakistan is not 400 km. So if S400 deployed close to border, it will be able to cover most of Pakistani airspace. Though with longer range missiles, we will not be able to target their fighters but mostly their force multipliers such as AWACS and refuellers.

S-400 range is overstated. --- it's effectiveness is mere 200km for tanker, AWACS & for stealth plane less than 30 km. --- earth curvature won't allow it look far even with a mast. --- everyone would prefer western system including India -- if they weren't that costly.

 

[Hydra3]

S-400 range is overstated. --- it's effectiveness is mere 200km for tanker, AWACS & for stealth plane less than 30 km. --- earth curvature won't allow it look far even with a mast. --- everyone would prefer western system including India -- if they weren't that costly.

Then why uncle sam.is trying hard every possible way to stop others to purchase s400?

 

[south block]

Then why uncle sam.is trying hard every possible way to stop others to purchase s400?

you are delusional if you think America or NATO forces can't overwhelm or destroy S-400 batteries if push comes to shove. ----- America want to choke Russia financially. ---- Cause it's a main supplier to 3rd world countries including India. ----- rest assured if Russia is choked we are done deal.

 

[Kumata]

Mig21 has make used the loop hole of f15 radars, algorithm dont allow the radar to pick low speed objects in air, mig21 used that tactics to defeat f15s. Dont know yankees have fixed that oblm or not.

Nope... the same tactics were used via which ubcle sam's famed boys were roasted during a exercise in gwalior ..and same roast was repeated next year as well..

U can stop your propoganda.. not one is buying it...

https://greatgameindia.com/mig-21-bison/

Now go back to CCP and ask for more propoganda material... Numbers do not win war.. tactics and brain do... incase CCP do not tells u...

and stop using that old VPN software to hide ur real ip... I know which hole u r typing in from...