Las Vegas Shooting: More Than 50 Killed and 200 Hurt Near Mandalay Bay

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Can you post a link? Could it be an echo? Return fire from cops?

Edit: nevermind.
Not sure buddy. Don't want to get involved into conspiracy theories but it sounds two guns being used simultaneously, to me. Watch the video at 1:24 in the video firing sounds like being done from two guns. Obviously I am not an expert but I don't think police or any security agency returned fire that quickly. Echo may be a factor but I am not sure. I still think that what I am hearing is two guns.
 
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What I've seen most of the time is the Indian left going more and more fanatic each day.
Visit r/india for instance u will understand how hell bent are Indian loonies on shaming the current government.
The lefts and right in Indian is going through a huge polarisations phase since 2014 election; things like award wapsi, cow terror and fake intolerance propaganda are just small signs of what's to come.
They are international agents trying to do shit. Modi will try his best to control them. These people are elitist and are heavily losing popularity as they don't connect with the masses. India is not 'individualistic society' as too industrial revolution hasn't taken place. So, the leftist loonis, feminist will have no place. Islam is still a major issue and the leftists are clearly pro islam. If they try too hard, Modi may finally break his silence on Hindutva and openly embrace it. Modi is trying his best not to do that as engagement with Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Arabs will break, especially when we need Afghanistan territory to counter Pakistan and Arab oil (which will run out soon).

But,if leftists go bonkers, it may actually happen as losing election is simply unacceptable considering the fact that leftists are hell bent on islamising India. It is better to do a bloody revolution than lose election.

And about unity with islam, Islam specifically asks to kill pagans. So, Pagan(hindu) and Muslims can't live together anyways
 

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That much stockpile is too damn big for one man
Democrats are organising them. Why else do you think democrats are going gaga over guns? They have some specific agenda. They appear to be almost fanatical about it
 

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What are the chances it was russian revenge as one of their own was killed in syria ??
Someone here posted russian tweets talking about revenge. Also USA is denying ISIS connection ( may be because ISIS is their own creation ).

Edit : Found the tweets. The tweets talk about taking down American soldier in syria, though.



 

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I was searching for the news what happened to the guy who killed people in las vegas. The guy found dead in the same hotel room from where he fired shots.
 

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What are the chances it was russian revenge as one of their own was killed in syria ??
Someone here posted russian tweets talking about revenge. Also USA is denying ISIS connection ( may be because ISIS is their own creation ).

Edit : Found the tweets. The tweets talk about taking down American soldier in syria, though.



I doubt this because the Russians don't like to turn American general public opinion against them, more than it already is.
Besides if the Russians wanted to one up the American establishment they would not have gone for public, because a few dead civilians ain't a big problem for the top dogs of American establishment; ain't of strategic value.
 

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Why would a man buy 30 weapons and bring along 10 when he is the only one doing the shooting.

What belief led him to do that?

Strangely enough US govt. says it was not ISIS on the first day itself. Even when the investigations are not actually completed.

On the other hand the Zee TV people (unofficial I&B ministry franchisee) claims it ISIS even on the second day.

Why aren't the allies on the same page in this case?
 

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Why would a man buy 30 weapons and bring along 10 when he is the only one doing the shooting.

What belief led him to do that?

Strangely enough US govt. says it was not ISIS on the first day itself. Even when the investigations are not actually completed.

On the other hand the Zee TV people (unofficial I&B ministry franchisee) claims it ISIS even on the second day.

Why aren't the allies on the same page in this case?
ISIS claimed attack, not Zee. And don't post nonsense like allies etc. The same guy was found to be involved in anti trump protest
 

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ISIS claimed attack, not Zee. And don't post nonsense like allies etc. The same guy was found to be involved in anti trump protest
Yes but it is Zee network that is furthering the claim. At least it was there on their channel just about an hour back when I saw it.

Besides I agree that Paddock may have been there in the anti trump rally but then there must be thousands of photographs of such rallies and yet they are publishing it on the second day itself. Which can only happen if this photograph was found sometime before the 2nd day (which could also be T minus 2 days actually :p).

Tell you what, I think Paddok is a patsy. An old man living alone with a history of broken and timepass relations. I mean which accountant in this whole wide world wants to own two small sized aircrafts. An accountant with gambling problem a passtime that he caught at the ripe old age of 64. An accountant who has a 'high limits hostess' of casinos as a girlfriend. And despite all this his only record is a driving citation till date.

Things do not fit in at all or they fit in much too perfectly.

Imagine the girl friend of this guy actually spoke to some customer care exec. somewhere on the day her boyfriend is to shoot and actually says that they will all die. What was going on inside the mind of this woman during the time she said that.
 

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Ok this guy Stephen Paddock was the son of a bank robber. So may be some genetic predilection there perhaps.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/us/stephen-paddock-vegas-shooter.html
But strangely enough he made a living by gambling per this report. How is that even possible. He actually won 20000 USD (fairly big sum) in one of the casinos very recently, just before this shooting. So there is more than enough cash in his hands on the day of the shooting. So could not be said to be frustrated form the usual reasons.

The guy actually owned an more than one homes. What was this guy really doing for a living?

And this:





At the distance he was shooting why did he need that big an opening in the windows. Even a few mm shake of hands would have thrown the aim off by a large cross range distance. How did he cause holes that big in the windows. Was it the rifle? Or perhaps the relevant question is why was it not the rifle?
 

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Ok this guy Stephen Paddock was the son of a bank robber. So may be some genetic predilection there perhaps.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/us/stephen-paddock-vegas-shooter.html
But strangely enough he made a living by gambling per this report. How is that even possible. He actually won 20000 USD (fairly big sum) in one of the casinos very recently, just before this shooting. So there is more than enough cash in his hands on the day of the shooting. So could not be said to be frustrated form the usual reasons.

The guy actually owned an more than one homes. What was this guy really doing for a living?

And this:





At the distance he was shooting why did he need that big an opening in the windows. Even a few mm shake of hands would have thrown the aim off by a large cross range distance. How did he cause holes that big in the windows. Was it the rifle? Or perhaps the relevant question is why was it not the rifle?
BTW why are there two holes at such large distance, did he fire from one hole first and then shift to another.
 

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That was a "Christian Rock" concert, so while there is nothing other than some random piglet's social-media claim to support the "recent convert" theory, it's more likely that this guy was AntiFa. Look it up, it's fascinating.

Basically America's version of Kerala-style left-wing terror.

In one stroke, this guy achieved multiple AntiFa political objectives:
  • Riled up gun-control support by exploiting lack of gun-control
  • Weaken the "all terror is Islamic terror until proven otherwise" belief system
  • Make Nevadans, who are the strongest proponents of Second Amendment rights, look defenseless
  • Hit Trump's voter-base (Christian rock concert-goers; there's proof that this guy was an anti-Trump political worker)
 

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BTW why are there two holes at such large distance, did he fire from one hole first and then shift to another.

Exactly. Its almost as if Stephen Paddock was unable to make up his mind.

This image with the direction of the concert says a lot in this regard.



If he broke the living/sitting space window first then he was placed at the best angle to shoot at the concert goers. In which case it would be idiotic on his part of go over to the other room and break a window again just so he could shoot from a very odd angle with a pillar in the way.

If on the other hand the window of the room marked 'Hotel room' (may be a bedroom), was the one to be cracked opened first, then was Stephen Paddock such an idiot that he could not even understand what the best place to shoot from is.

And if in both cases Stephen Paddock turns out the idiot then why must the rest be presumed to be rationale behaviour?
 

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