Know Your 'Rafale'

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Mr Nambiar has said that MWF are going to be better than rafales The Gripen is formidable aircraft that’s why it costs 130 million dollars each
Once again, Rafale >> M2000 and Gripen.
The AESA in the Rafale is FOC since 7 years, and used operationnal experience of the PESA one. Griepen AESA is in a prototyp form.
SPECTRA is war proven. The Gripen system is as mature as the radar.
You’re talking about a product(MWF) that is not in existence yet. For it to be better than rafale, it’s avionics, EW, engines and radar should also be superior. The one advantage of the MWF will be multiple weapons integration. For it to be truly superior, it needs something equivalent to SECTRA or better.
 
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Range and payload are not as important as

range and payload and Thrust are not as important as the electronics in modern air warfare
Once again, Rafale >> M2000 and Gripen.
The AESA in the Rafale is FOC since 7 years, and used operationnal experience of the PESA one. Griepen AESA is in a prototyp form.
SPECTRA is war proven. The Gripen system is as mature as the radar.
SPECTRA EW is far far ahead of gripen or F16’s or F18’s or F15’s. It is second only to F35 ‘maybe’.
There is no comparison between Chinese EW and SPECTRA.
Which is why the rafales don’t get bothered by AD infested ground clutter.
 
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Once again, Rafale >> M2000 and Gripen.
The AESA in the Rafale is FOC since 7 years, and used operationnal experience of the PESA one. Griepen AESA is in a prototyp form.
SPECTRA is war proven. The Gripen system is as mature as the radar.
Once again, Rafale >> M2000 and Gripen.
The AESA in the Rafale is FOC since 7 years, and used operationnal experience of the PESA one. Griepen AESA is in a prototyp form.
SPECTRA is war proven. The Gripen system is as mature as the radar.
Would you happen to have more pictures of the cockpit of rafale? I’m in love with the layout and different screen functionality. Any links to explanation/descriptions of the functionality.
Also, when it comes to SPECTRA, would you have any links pointing to jamming/spoofing capabilities.
 

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Would you happen to have more pictures of the cockpit of rafale? I’m in love with the layout and different screen functionality. Any links to explanation/descriptions of the functionality.
Also, when it comes to SPECTRA, would you have any links pointing to jamming/spoofing capabilities.
Cockpit of MWF has been showcased in Lucknow exhibition you can see it it’s more advanced than those in Rafales with a single large LCD display
 

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Cockpit of MWF have been showcased in Lucknow exhibition you can see it it’s more advanced than those in Rafales with a single large LCD display
Please remember.
A good looking cockpit does not mean the aircraft is better. A large LCD panel is just a display screen. That display was developed for the SPORT trainer. It can be imported into MWF, the tejas or even the SUKHOIS.lol.
 
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Please remember.
A good looking cockpit does not mean the aircraft is better. A large LCD panel is just a display screen. That display was developed for the SPORT trainer. It can be imported into MWF, the tejas or even the SUKHOIS.lol.
But it means the cockpit is better and the digital cockpit with single large touchscreen LCD display like in Gripen E , F35 and MWF makes it easier for the pilot to control the aircraft
 

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Here’s Why The IAF Has Chosen The Hammer For Its Rafale


With just days to go before India’s first Rafale jets arrive in country, the Indian Air Force has exercised emergency procurement powers to contract the French Hammer AASM precision strike weapon system for the aircraft. In a decision fully in keeping with an emerging conflict scenario with China in eastern Ladakh — and with disengagement efforts hitting multiple roadblocks — choosing the Hammer isn’t surprising. But you’re a Livefist reader, and obviously you expect context. So let’s begin.

To begin with, the Hammer, developed by French conglomerate Safran (which also builds the Rafale’s M88 turbofan engines) has always officially been an option to the IAF in the Rafale package. In 2017, months after India had contracted 36 Rafale jets, Livefist reported details of what India had chosen, noting that the IAF had optioned the Hammer system for a possible decision once Rafale deliveries begin, but that it would hit the ground running with Israeli Spice guidance kits to begin with. Read that full report here.

In October last year, on the day the first Rafales were handed over to the Indian Air Force, Livefist reported the list of add-on weapons and systems that the IAF could opt for now that the jets were flying in Indian colours.

The IAF’s 2016 decision to choose the Israeli Spice precision bomb kits over the Hammer was based on cost — the French system is significantly more costly, but brings to bear additional capabilities, including effective deployability in low-level flight. It wasn’t the first time the Hammer had lost out to the Israeli Spice weapons family.

In 2012, the Hammer and Spice went head to head in an Indian Air Force quest for new 1,000 kg precision strike weaponry for its Mirage 2000 jets that were being separately upgraded. There too, the Israeli won out on cost (the Hammer didn’t have a 1,000 kg version for test, and therefore had to be tested on a 250 kg unit). Spice 2000 bombs would go on to see action in India’s air strikes on a Pakistani terror camp in Balakot in February 2019. The Indian Air Force, incidentally, has also used Ladakh-triggered emergency procurement powers to order more Spice 2000 weapons for its Mirage 2000s.

But if the IAF had chosen the Spice on its Rafales in 2016, why the need to order the Hammer system now? To understand the decision, it must be known that acquiring weapons have three broad cost components — the cost of the weapon itself, the cost of integration (software and hardware), and finally the cost of testing & certifying the system. A senior IAF officer tells Livefist that while work on integrating Spice weapons on the IAF Rafales has been underway in France in terms of software code, the bulk of the integration and crucial testing will necessarily take place in India. But how long would that take from the time the aircraft arrive? To provide perspective, it took 18 months to fully integrate, test and clear the Spice on IAF Mirages. The IAF’s rationale, therefore, in acquiring the Hammer system now, is that savings made on integration and testing the weapon — the Hammer is already fully certified on the Rafale — will justify the higher cost of the system itself. Once contracted, Hammer systems will likely begin deliveries quickly, possibly from production inventory intended for the French forces.

In France, Indian Air Force pilots have had extensive exposure to the the Hammer system already. In 2017, Livefist conducted a series of interviews with French Navy Rafale pilots who had deployed Hammer bombs on targets in Iraq. Read that full story here.

While the Hammer procurement has clearly been green-lit keeping in view the current India-China tensions in Ladakh, and the fact that inbound Rafales would be bereft of a tactical stand-off strike weapon for some time, there are likely to be more weapons contracts for the Rafale fleet going forward. The IAF Rafale’s more capable weapons — the Meteor BVRAAM and SCALP cruise missile — have been contracted in fairly modest numbers, part of an effort to keep overall costs down. It is expected, therefore, that the IAF will look to add numbers of both these systems in the near term as Rafale deliveries add up.

The IAF’s decision to push through an emergency purchase of the Hammer was scooped by India Today executive editor Sandeep Unnithan,who made a mention of it on Livefist Editor Shiv Aroor’s news show 5ive Live on Wednesday, a day before the story was reported on other media. Watch that full broadcast here:

 

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Tensions in the Eastern Mediterranean: French Rafales sent to Cyprus?
BY LAURENT LAGNEAU AUGUST 11, 2020



In recent hours, Athens has denounced the sending by Turkey of the ship Oruç Reis to an area between the islands of Crete [southern Greece] and Cyprus, near the [Turkish] city of Antalya, as part of a new hydrocarbon prospecting campaign. Clearly, this vessel will navigate in Greek and Cypriot waters, Ankara relying on an agreement signed last November with the Libyan government of national unity relating to its maritime borders.

Obviously, the Turkish authorities did not skimp on the means to ensure the protection of this research boat. Indeed, via Twitter, the Turkish Ministry of Defense published photographs on which the Oruc Reis was seen being escorted by 4 Avisos A69 [France in 6 delivered to the Turkish Navy between 2000 and 2002, editor's note] and a frigate Meko. It is possible that a submarine completes this device [we believe in guessing on one of the aerial shots].
Anyway, on August 10, Greece accused Turkey of "threatening peace" in the eastern Mediterranean and assured that it will defend "its sovereignty and sovereign rights. In addition, the Greek Prime Minister, Kyriakos Mitsotakis, met with Charles Michel, the President of the European Council, as well as with Jens Stoltenberg, the Secretary General of NATO.
Regarding the discussion with the latter, the head of the Greek government must have been disappointed. "This situation must be resolved in a spirit of solidarity among allies and in accordance with international law", declared Mr. Stoltenberg via Twitter.


In any case, this August 11, Athens requested the urgent holding of a European Union summit to discuss the case of Turkey, which, through the head of its diplomacy, Mevlut Cavusoglu, put a plus oil on the fire by asserting that it would expand its prospecting operations "near the western borders of its continental shelf." "
"The Ministry of Foreign Affairs will submit a request for an emergency summit of the Council of Foreign Affairs of the European Union," said Mr. Mitsotakis.

In Cyprus [member of the EU, editor's note], the same concerns are expressed. Thus, on August 10, Nicosia declared Turkish activities “illegal”. The Cypriot Ministry of Defense issued a Navtex in which it explains that the actions carried out by the ship Oruç Reis constitute a "violation of international law and maritime security procedures" as well as a "criminal offense under the laws of the Republic of Cyprus ”.
And to demand, therefore, the immediate withdrawal of the Turkish boat. And this also applies to the Barbaros Hayredin, another prospecting vessel sent by Ankara to the Cypriot exclusive economic zone.
In this matter, Greece and the Republic of Cyprus can count on the support of France. A strategic partnership agreement is in fact being finalized between Paris and Athens. And a defense agreement with Nicosia has just entered into force.
In addition to increased cooperation in the fields of armaments and defense technologies, this text provides for the training of Cypriot soldiers in France, joint exercises, exchanges and authorizations aimed at allowing French ships and planes to call at Cyprus.
“The rise of tensions in the eastern Mediterranean and its surroundings, and particularly Turkish pressures, can only lead the Cypriots to be more than in the past asking for signs of reassurance. It is in this sense that we can analyze the possibilities of deepening Franco-Cypriot military cooperation opened up by the intergovernmental agreement ”, explained a French parliamentary report, on the occasion of the examination of This agreement.

Obviously, and while the tension in the Eastern Mediterranean has increased a notch in recent days, the Cypriot press has indicated that two French Rafales, probably coming from the projected air base [BAP] in Jordan, have been spotted in Andreas Papandreou Airport, near the town of Paphos, located in the south-west of the island. The two aircraft are a priori accompanied by a C-135FR tanker aircraft. A Transall C-160 was also spotted by air traffic monitoring systems. But there is nothing to say with certainty that it landed in Cyprus.



The "in-Cyprus" site, linked to the daily Phileleftheros, claims that the two Rafales took part in an exercise which mobilized, during one day, the Cypriot army and four helicopters of the Israeli air force. "The French planes must remain at the military base of Andreas Papandreou in Paphos for a while because they will carry out patrols in the region of the Eastern Mediterranean", he specifies, by relying on "well-informed sources. "
As a reminder, the airborne group [GAé] of the Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier took part in exercises which consisted in testing the Cypriot air defense last February. More recently, the light stealth frigate [FLF] Aconit took part in naval maneuvers organized by the Cypriot Ministry of Defense and involving the frigates Kanaris [Greece] and Alpino [Italy].
Photo: Archive - EMA / French Air Force
 

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Would you happen to have more pictures of the cockpit of rafale? I’m in love with the layout and different screen functionality. Any links to explanation/descriptions of the functionality.
Also, when it comes to SPECTRA, would you have any links pointing to jamming/spoofing capabilities.
You are already addicted ! Find a doctor before it is too late. Or you will end taking screenshots of Rafale videos just like me :doh: https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/french-military-pictures.6177/post-1257043

Seriously ... try https://omnirole-rafale.com/ihm/
Hope that site gets translated soon.

Or : https://rafalenews.blogspot.com/search?q=rafale+cockpit
 
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You are already addicted ! Find a doctor before it is too late. Or you will end taking screenshots of Rafale videos just like me :doh: https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/french-military-pictures.6177/post-1257043

Seriously ... try https://omnirole-rafale.com/ihm/
Hope that site gets translated soon.

Or : https://rafalenews.blogspot.com/search?q=rafale+cockpit
Just can’t get enough. Already addicted. That’s all I can dream about. 100s and hundreds of rafales 🤣🤣
 

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SPECTRA EW is far far ahead of gripen or F16’s or F18’s or F15’s. It is second only to F35 ‘maybe’.
There is no comparison between Chinese EW and SPECTRA.
Which is why the rafales don’t get bothered by AD infested ground clutter.
Spectra is an excellent self protection built in EW suite but unlike the F-35 it has no offensive EW capability. The USAF 4th Gen fighters have dedicated offensive EW platforms such as the EA-18G escorting them. For the IAF to knock out S-300, S-400 and HQ-9 long range PLAAF SAM systems it needs dedicated offensive EW platforms and long range HARMs. The KH-31P on the SU-30s is not adequate as it has a range of just over 100 km only. Ideally SCALP/Storm Shadow should be upgraded with a dual mode seeker, radar homing as well radiation homing because it has the 500+ km range to target these long range SAM radars from a standoff range without being reciprocally targeted by even the longest range S-400 system missile.
 

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