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Since when? Do you have a source? I didnt even hear about the F-35 radars getting a GaN upgrade yet which I find it hard to believe that a 4th gen has 1st priority over a 5th gen aircraft in mass production.
I think you will wait a while for the answer.
 

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Did you get paid by Dassault? Doubt so, then why ligma johnson attitude? No jet’s gonna move well at max payload- including Rafale. Your brainwashing by Dassault is indeed laughable
F16 was not among L1 or L2 during MMRCA trials. IAF judge the F16 agility too poor in the high and hot conditions of this field. It is very well documented.

As always, the strengh of US birds is low cast thanks to high numbers (as russian products). When you only compare technical performance, as MMRCA, results are differents.
In the Swiss and Finland contests, the price was taken in.
 

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In the Swiss and Finland contests, the price was taken in.
😂 more lies Bon?


Switzerland:
According to the Swiss: fourth generation Rafale is no match for F-35 in performance.


“The Swiss Federal Council pointed specifically to the Joint Strike Fighter’s survivability and situational awareness as selling points that were seen as advantageous for the Swiss Air Force’s air-policing mission. F-35 scored better in effectiveness, product support and cooperation than the Rafale, Super Hornet and Typhoon.

In terms of effectiveness, the F-35A achieved the best result because ... it includes entirely new, extremely powerful and comprehensively networked systems for protecting and monitoring airspace: the Swiss Federal Council stated.”


Finland: from their Defense Ministry
The F-35 comprehensive system and aircraft’s capabilities in combat, reconnaissance and survival are unsurpassed. The government said.

During the press conference, commander of the Finnish Air Force, Maj. Gen. Pasi Jokinen, highlighted the F-35A came first or tied for first in all mission areas. It overall scored 4.47 on the capability assessment against a 4.0 requirement while the runner up reached 3.81, Jokinen said.”

Rafale didn’t even meet the requirements of Finland with that low score.

You can fool and bribe Indians and some other nations because you guys have done it for so long…. But not everyone. Not a single Western power wants your outdated jets.
 

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Since when? Do you have a source? I didnt even hear about the F-35 radars getting a GaN upgrade yet which I find it hard to believe that a 4th gen has 1st priority over a 5th gen aircraft in mass production.
Expecting 2024 for the first news of SABR with GaN. The power and cooling modules need to be reworked due to high power and heat from GaN currently barely enough for GaA. APG-81 work is simpler but current version is powerful already, and with 1000 plus orders in, interest to reveal the upgrade is low.

With F-18 block III now coming off with GaN radars from Raytheon, there is a pressure at Northrop to match the SABR offering.
 

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😂

You can fool and bribe Indians and some other nations because you guys have done it for so long…. But not everyone. Not a single Western power wants your outdated jets.
Ha ha ha ha.

Check this out:


Looks like it is the western countries that are fooled by and South Korea is learning the hard way about the F-35s.
 

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Ha ha ha ha.

Check this out:


Looks like it is the western countries that are fooled by and South Korea is learning the hard way about the F-35s.
Thanks for showing us the propaganda.

Now read the Facts:
South Korea to buy 20 more F-35s
Daehan LeeWednesday, Jul 20

SEOUL — South Korea will buy 20 more F-35A fighter jets from the United States, as a part of its F-X project focused on acquiring foreign stealth fighter jets from 2023 to 2028.

The nation’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration’s promotion committee, led by Defense Minister Jong-sup Lee, on July 15 formally decided to buy 20 additional F-35As for 3.9 trillion Korean won (nearly $3 billion). South Korea plans to acquire them by 2028.

The Air Force will then have a total of 60 F-35As, as the military already operates 40 F-35A Block-Is.

😂 No offense but South Korea is significantly less corrupt and organized compared to India.
 

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Thanks for showing us the propaganda.

Now read the Facts:
South Korea to buy 20 more F-35s
Daehan LeeWednesday, Jul 20

SEOUL — South Korea will buy 20 more F-35A fighter jets from the United States, as a part of its F-X project focused on acquiring foreign stealth fighter jets from 2023 to 2028.

The nation’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration’s promotion committee, led by Defense Minister Jong-sup Lee, on July 15 formally decided to buy 20 additional F-35As for 3.9 trillion Korean won (nearly $3 billion). South Korea plans to acquire them by 2028.

The Air Force will then have a total of 60 F-35As, as the military already operates 40 F-35A Block-Is.

😂 No offense but South Korea is significantly less corrupt and organized compared to India.
South Korea purchase what uncle Sam said to. It's just the pizzo to pay for the US soldiers on its soil.
Remember Rafale won technically against F15, and finally, after huge US pressure, F15 won...

South Korea may be less corrupt than some other, but is mainly a gentle dog for USA. As Australia, NZ, even Canada.
 

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Thanks for showing us the propaganda.

Now read the Facts:
South Korea to buy 20 more F-35s
Daehan LeeWednesday, Jul 20

SEOUL — South Korea will buy 20 more F-35A fighter jets from the United States, as a part of its F-X project focused on acquiring foreign stealth fighter jets from 2023 to 2028.

The nation’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration’s promotion committee, led by Defense Minister Jong-sup Lee, on July 15 formally decided to buy 20 additional F-35As for 3.9 trillion Korean won (nearly $3 billion). South Korea plans to acquire them by 2028.

The Air Force will then have a total of 60 F-35As, as the military already operates 40 F-35A Block-Is.

😂 No offense but South Korea is significantly less corrupt and organized compared to India.
Buying 20 more has nothing to do with it being good or bad..

SK are now stuck with one ecosystem.

Just like Mig29k for our Navy.
Just like MMRCA2.0 is charade to avoid single vendor i.e. Rafale.
 

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According to UAE air force F35 is useless.
French fighter jets not a substitute for American F-35s: UAE
Rafale to substitute Mirage-2000 😂

More lies from Bon!
French: The traditional moochers of The Developing Nations
 

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Buying 20 more has nothing to do with it being good or bad..

SK are now stuck with one ecosystem.

Just like Mig29k for our Navy.
Just like MMRCA2.0 is charade to avoid single vendor i.e. Rafale.
Are you stating that F-35 is like Mig-29? A forced upon fighter? It may pain you but F-35 actually wins competitions on technical prowess🤦‍♂️
 

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South Korea purchase what uncle Sam said to. It's just the pizzo to pay for the US soldiers on its soil.
Remember Rafale won technically against F15, and finally, after huge US pressure, F15 won...

South Korea may be less corrupt than some other, but is mainly a gentle dog for USA. As Australia, NZ, even Canada.
Calling others names doesn’t change your reality. Which is much worse than any of the nations you mentioned. Stuck with outdated 4th generation overpriced Rafale when your neighbors with F-35 can drop them like flies.
 

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Are you stating that F-35 is like Mig-29? A forced upon fighter? It may pain you but F-35 actually wins competitions on technical prowess🤦‍♂️
showing lack of basic comprehension skills despite English being the first language.

What I meant is lets assume if there was near equivalent of f-35 on sale from different country.

Will SK make puny order of 20 and invest on another ecosystem ? no right ? then mentioning news of additional order isn't relevant to the conversation.
 

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French fighter jets not a substitute for American F-35s: UAE
Rafale to substitute Mirage-2000 😂

More lies from Bon!
French: The traditional moochers of The Developing Nations
Only politics words.
actual situation :
F16 bk60 fleet : 80
M2000 fleet : 60

Rafale is ordered 80 units. It's a clear replacement of F16. Other bird will be orderd in less number, so a M2000 2nd role replacement.
 

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Only politics words.
actual situation :
F16 bk60 fleet : 80
M2000 fleet : 60

Rafale is ordered 80 units. It's a clear replacement of F16. Other bird will be orderd in less number, so a M2000 2nd role replacement.
So whatever doesn’t fit your narrative is a political talk? Haha. Ok homie whatever…

Rafale is a failed 4th generation fighter which only third world nations and corrupt Caliphates are buying.
 

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NO.
F-35 actually wins competitions on technical prowess promise :pound:
Even that promise is more promising than your obsolete Rafale 😂
Now Dassault is running around for FCAS because 100% French, NATO and independent simulations show F-35 knocking out Rafale (and all other 4th Gen) like flies
 

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