Know Your 'Rafale'

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wtf they want full ownership of the Indian plant
Zero tech transfer. They are not interested in sharing tech in the first place.
In MMRCA only Sweden and Russia offered tech transfer, rest just assembly, with screw driver usage tech, and another point is, Boeing need additional permission to sell APG 79 to India, and Growler , like F 35 not offered to India.
Countries shared tech/jv/supported India - Russia, Israel and Italy.
 

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Zero tech transfer. They are not interested in sharing tech in the first place.
In MMRCA only Sweden and Russia offered tech transfer, rest just assembly, with screw driver usage tech, and another point is, Boeing need additional permission to sell APG 79 to India, and Growler , like F 35 not offered to India.
Countries shared tech/jv/supported India - Russia, Israel and Italy.
Does India need any tech transfers for a 4th generation fighter like the Rafale?
I understand needing help in areas like jet engines but India should have developed all the other technologies needed to make a 4th gen fighter in the Tejas program.
What would probably be more important is getting the source codes to allow integration of indigenous weapons and to manufacture spares/have maintenance facilities in the country so that India would be able to keep the jets flying for some time in a war without having to rely on France.
 

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Does India need any tech transfers for a 4th generation fighter like the Rafale?
I understand needing help in areas like jet engines but India should have developed all the other technologies needed to make a 4th gen fighter in the Tejas program.
What would probably be more important is getting the source codes to allow integration of indigenous weapons and to manufacture spares/have maintenance facilities in the country so that India would be able to keep the jets flying for some time in a war without having to rely on France.
Yes, India need 4th gen tech including engine, source codes, know why, data on target etc, and No one give such techs and infp.
Rafale is not a 4 gen, but 4.5 gen, and we need 4.5 gen teh, not 4th gen. Maintenance facilities comes with large order. Manufacture spares, need agreements. MRO is expensive for low no.of jets and need certifications and not a big tech transfer thing.
LCA mk1 series is 4/4+gen, LCA mk2 4.5 gen, which is under development and Rafale is 4.5 gen, and Mirage 2k is 4th gen, and HAL upgrading them using French tech, and 1 Rafale is equivalent of 3 m2k.
 

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Anybody knows about the status of 36th rafale? It was meant to arrive by now. It was meant to have India specific enhancement. No update since February.
Thanks in advance.
Seems that 35 are delivered and the next one (in fact the N°1 in the production line) remains in France for last complete weapon system tests to comply with the 100% indian specifications.
 

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French navy eyeing US progress in unmanned, ‘data-centric’ operations
Megan EcksteinJun 24, 11:21 AM
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WASHINGTON — The French navy is assessing what it can learn from U.S. advances in “data-centric operations” and cloud technologies, its chief told reporters Friday following a week of travel in the United States.

Adm. Pierre Vandier spoke June 24 at the Washington Navy Yard about the need to be interoperable and interchangeable with the U.S. Navy as they partner in four oceans and all domains.

He said he spent the week in California, with an itinerary designed by U.S. Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Mike Gilday to show off future technologies and concepts of operations the French Navy could incorporate into its own modernization plans.

Vandier said he visited destroyer Zumwalt, the unmanned surface vessel squadron, industry in Silicon Valley and more. With European defense budgets back on the rise, he said, he has important decisions to make about the future navy.

“The main advance I think the U.S. has is in IT,” he said. “This is something I think Europe is late on, and we need to make a good choice in the future to be interoperable in managing huge amounts of data.”

He noted Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has urged the U.S. Navy to collaborate with close partners on information-sharing and technology transfer opportunities One good example of that, Gilday added, would be learning to operate the U.S. F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jets and the vast quantity of data they collect with the French navy’s fourth-generation Dassault Rafale fighters. 😂

French way of admitting "we are way too behind.."
 

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Basically, a portion of air flow is redirected not through the engine, but around it. It then cools the engine itself, and exits through an area between inner and outer nozzle. This helps both dissipate the hot exhaust by mixing it with cooler air and also cool down the outer nozzle / isolate it from the hot exhaust.
can u please share any official document or any source which says m88 has secondary cooling channel?
 

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