JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

[amoy]

@amoy Well, I don't care about FC-1.
But will China also export J20?
I mean it's China's best fighter.

Don't think any J20 for export. China is doing well in weaponry export. Meantime India and Saudi Arabia top the world's defence import.

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For clarity’s sake, here is the list of the world’s top 10 arms exporters, along with their respective shares of global exports between 2010 and 2014, from SIPRI:

UnitedStates: 31%
Russia: 27%
China: 5%
Germany: 5%
France: 5%
U.K.: 4%
Spain: 3%
Italy: 3%
Ukraine: 3%
Israel: 2%

See the entire study from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. http://books.sipri.org/files/FS/SIPRIFS1503.pdf



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[Gessler]

@amoy Well, I don't care about FC-1.
But will China also export J20?
I mean it's China's best fighter.

Chengdu or the CPC aren't starved for revenues so nothing to gain from exporting J-20. They've already developed the Shenyang J-31 as a lightweight low-cost stealth fighter (can't really call it 5th generation though) precisely for export to it's intended partners - the poorer countries who can make use of some reduced-RCS planes, but can't afford to buy any other 5th generation aircraft.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Don't think any J20 for export. China is doing well in weaponry export.

Got my answer. Now, let's handle your troll.

Meantime India and Saudi Arabia top the world's defence import.

And China is at no. 3.
Ratio of weapon imports of:
Saudi Arabia : India : China =
2629 :1550 :1357
Moreover, last year India has reduced it's dependence of foreign stuff last year at a very great extent resulting SA at no. 1.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/09/saudi-arabia-becomes-worlds-biggest-arms-importer

And then, China is nearer to India.

For clarity’s sake, here is the list of the world’s top 10 arms exporters, along with their respective shares of global exports between 2010 and 2014, from SIPRI:

UnitedStates: 31%
Russia: 27%
China: 5%
Germany: 5%
France: 5%
U.K.: 4%
Spain: 3%
Italy: 3%
Ukraine: 3%
Israel: 2%

See the entire study from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. http://books.sipri.org/files/FS/SIPRIFS1503.pdf



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Yes, China exports at much greater extent. We have a lot to catch up and so we are catching. Wait for few years. :biggrin2:
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/repor...equipment-to-22-countries-in-one-year-2111425

https://www.thedollarbusiness.com/indias-defence-exports-likely-to-surge-40-this-year/
So, we lost in past and could handle ourselves very late. But now moving in right direction. Anyway, thanks for caring about us. :grin:

 

[Gessler]

Yes, China exports at much greater extent.

Yeah well you can call that re-export. Most of the stuff than PRC exported so far is re/reverse-engineered Russian/French hardware. They sell them at cheaper prices and to countries that wouldn't/can't get from Russia directly either due to cost or bad relations. The upside is that they get to sell these under a Chinese name, and it helps their local industry.

They also do make some improvements of their own as well, from time to time. Benefits of having a manufacturing-based economy.

 

[bose]

China is world's topmost cheater !! See what is going on to now days !! Chinese economy ... full of gas and what not... few months back these they were dreaming about catching up with Americans...

What happened to Junk Fighter - 17 sale to Sri Lanka ??

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[Indx TechStyle]

@Gessler please don't annoy our Chinese Friends.

@amoy please don't get offended bro.
Let's wait for few years for India's entry in the same league.
Then, we could do a healthy comparison.

 

[Dazzler]

@Gessler please don't annoy our Chinese Friends.

@amoy please don't get offended bro.
Let's wait for few years for India's entry in the same league.
Then, we could do a healthy comparison.

what happened to lca that were offered to sir lanka?

 

[Indx TechStyle]

what happened to lca that were offered to sir lanka?

Same what happened to China's FC-1 Xiaolong (pakis do it's license production by name of JF17 but call it indigenous). because Lankans don't need fighter plane.

 

[shiphone]

The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has a contract for 50 Block 2 JF-17s but as Air Cdre Ahsan pointed out, "the full AAR system will not appear until the 29th jet, which should fly later this year [at Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) in China]."

http://www.janes.com/article/49991/block-2-jf-17-makes-first-flight-ahead-of-block-3-improvements
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the final shape of IFR probe Design of JF-17/FC-1 ... and extra MAW added...

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the earlier try of IFR probe design...

 

[gslv markIII]

Its time to burst some egos..

Bad attempt at that.I will be impressed when Pakistan can design a general aviation/basic trainer aircraft without an official namesake JV.

 

[shiphone]

That said, at some point in the not to distant future the LCA will have quantity AND its inherent quality over the Thunder on its side. I don't know exactly what PAC or Chengdu are playing at but if you look at the inducted JF-17s in the PAF, it appears they are only averaging 7-8 birds a year. From 2017 HAL will be churning out 16/year and they are already producing 19-20 MKIs/year.

LOL...it seems some genius are still enjoying the laughable baseless building-up in the head...once again, you'd better make out the difference of reality and future (so called claimed things)...

in this world, we admire those people has achieved after hard work not the worthless empty words ...

Target met, PAC produced 16 JF-17 aircrafts in 2015: spokesperson
http://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/314863-Target-met-PAC-produced-16-JF17-aircrafts-in-201

PESHAWAR (Dunya News) – Spokesperson for the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) on Monday has said that Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) has achieved its annual production goal.

In a statement issued, the spokesperson stated that authorities have decided to increase aeronautical complex’s production capabilities.

The complex has handed over 16th JF-17 Thunder aircraft to the air force in the ongoing year.

Earlier in September, Kamra complex had made the Airborne Warning And Control System (AWACS) aircraft operational on half the cost as compared to foreign companies. As a result, USD 15 million were saved due to the indigenous repair to the aircraft. Feasibility study of Gwadar deep waters shipyard was also completed.

The aircraft had been damaged in an attack by terrorists during on Kamra aeronautical complex.

 

[salute]

LOL...it seems some genius are still enjoying the laughable baseless building-up in the head...once again, you'd better make out the difference of reality and future (so called claimed things)...

in this world, we admire those people has achieved after hard work not the worthless empty words ...

Target met, PAC produced 16 JF-17 aircrafts in 2015: spokesperson
http://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/314863-Target-met-PAC-produced-16-JF17-aircrafts-in-201

PESHAWAR (Dunya News) – Spokesperson for the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) on Monday has said that Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) has achieved its annual production goal.

In a statement issued, the spokesperson stated that authorities have decided to increase aeronautical complex’s production capabilities.

The complex has handed over 16th JF-17 Thunder aircraft to the air force in the ongoing year.

Earlier in September, Kamra complex had made the Airborne Warning And Control System (AWACS) aircraft operational on half the cost as compared to foreign companies. As a result, USD 15 million were saved due to the indigenous repair to the aircraft. Feasibility study of Gwadar deep waters shipyard was also completed.

The aircraft had been damaged in an attack by terrorists during on Kamra aeronautical complex.

runaway jet fighter plane.

 

[Illusive]

runaway jet fighter plane.

The pullout rate of this fighter is over 9000

 

[Dazzler]

Breaking more hearts...

 

[salute]

@Neo @genius @shiphone @Zarvan

pakis paid 500k $ nonrefundable fee at bahrain air show,

and no jf,

just name of lca is enough for jf to run away,
this jf plane is already making loss without war.

 

[shiphone]

LOL。。。why @ me ?

I'm really not interested in these Indian concocted BS... to be honest ,I really feel pity to watch your show and others' on that stupid thread and no more here....

errrr....that is so ...well...'Indian'....LOL

 

[salute]

at least chinese members doing face saving by bs of 'not interested',

what else they gonna say,

chinese communist party pulled jf back from competition and saved them from the shame,

but paki members are too bit*h to say anything bs,

but from now on pakis or chinese on any forum or social media may gonna stop their stupid 'jf is already flying and lca 2 decades later but still not ready' nuisance,

they make as many jf sh#t as they want,

and sell it to sri lanka or whoever they want.

 

[sorcerer]

CHinese posters are in a flurry reviving the dormant chinese threads on chinese Junk Fighter and other aircraft threads on DFI.


Seems like TEJAS LCA has really hit some nerves...
Well..this is the kind of reaction that ensures that India is on the right track..progressing...giving the competitors the jitters.

 

[Dazzler]

@Neo @genius @shiphone @Zarvan

pakis paid 500k $ nonrefundable fee at bahrain air show,

and no jf,

just name of lca is enough for jf to run away,
this jf plane is already making loss without war.

thst id pure BS, pak never committed to attend the air show. the bahrainis included them thinkng they would oblige. in fact, PAF has never attended the BIAS, ever.


in the mean time, more heart burns..

 

[Dazzler]

at least chinese members doing face saving by bs of 'not interested',

what else they gonna say,

chinese communist party pulled jf back from competition and saved them from the shame,

but paki members are too bit*h to say anything bs,

but from now on pakis or chinese on any forum or social media may gonna stop their stupid 'jf is already flying and lca 2 decades later but still not ready' nuisance,

they make as many jf sh#t as they want,

and sell it to sri lanka or whoever they want.

The IAF knows it and as a professional outfit, admits the reality! unlike many members on this and other forums..