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HAHAHAHAHAHA ..... copy cats say these copy are classified ...... these pakchinkis are really foolest people on earth
the 29th JF-17 of Block II batch is going to fly in CAC...
serial Number： 229 or 2P-29...this is another one assembled in China
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the Making of JF-17B/FC-1B ,the two seater tainer, began on 9th Nov 2015...
source: CAN news...
http://www.81.cn/rd/2015-11/16/content_6770567.htm
serial Number： 229 or 2P-29...this is another one assembled in China
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the Making of JF-17B/FC-1B ,the two seater tainer, began on 9th Nov 2015...
source: CAN news...
http://www.81.cn/rd/2015-11/16/content_6770567.htm
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JF-17 Still an Option in Egypt-Pakistan Defense Cooperation Drive
Reuters
A JF-17 Thunder fighter participates in a flying display during the 51st Paris Air Show at Le Bourget airport near Paris, June 16, 2015.
ISLAMABAD — Despite having opted for French and Russian fighter aircraft earlier this year, Egypt has reportedly expressed an interest in the Sino-Pakistan JF-17 Thunder. This has come as a surprise to analysts who had considered the possibility of Egypt acquiring the JF-17 to be lost.
The interest comes as part of a wider push to increase defense industry cooperation between the two countries, according to a Dec. 4 news release by the Pakistani government's Press Information Department. It outlined how the Egyptian ambassador to Islamabad, Sherif Shaheen, met Pakistan's Minister for Defence Production Tanveer Hussain to discuss improving bilateral defense cooperation.
A cadet exchange program is already in place, but both sides were "looking at collaboration in defense industry as the core of relations between Pakistan and Egypt," according to the news release.
As a matter of policy, officials in Pakistan do not discuss potential defense deals until they are signed.
However, author, analyst and former Pakistani Air Force pilot Kaiser Tufail says there are two main reasons the JF-17 appeals to developing nations.
"It offers the best value for money, being one of the cheapest of the modern fighters to purchase and maintain," he said. "Its sale is not constrained by big power politics, in that it is not likely to be used as a tool for exercising leverage over the purchaser's foreign or defense policies. Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Jordan (possibly) and now Egypt are keenly eyeing the JF-17 for these reasons."
In respect to a potential Egyptian deal, author, analyst and former Australian defense attache to Islamabad Brian Cloughley believes the JF-17 has a key advantage over other fighter aircraft the Egyptians may be able to acquire.
"The Egyptians have many sources for combat aircraft, but none of those being considered for provision of advanced fighters manufacture anything like the JF-17," Cloughley said.
The Rafale and MiG-35 are larger twin-engine fighters in comparison to the JF-17, and unlike the latter are off the shelf purchases, with no local production offered for Egypt.
Analysts believe this is where the JF-17 has another advantage, and one that builds on experience.
Egypt already operates 120 Sino-Pakistani Hongdu K-8 jet trainer aircraft, the majority of which were built in Egypt by the Arab Organization for Industrialization. A similar deal for the construction of the JF-17 has been speculated since Egypt first reportedly expressed an interest in the JF-17 in 2010.
The bulk of Egypt's modern fighter fleet comprises of some 220 F-16C/Ds, but these are supported by a larger number of legacy Mirage 5, MiG-21 and Chengdu J-7 fighters. The order for 46 MiG-35s will likely replace the MiG-21s, but this leaves nearly 140 Mirage 5s and J-7s needing replacement.
As the JF-17 was designed precisely to replace these types, Tufail says it is "an excellent platform to replace the older fleet of Mirage III/5, MiG-21/F-7" and the "glitch-free induction and full operational capability of the JF-17 in the Pakistan Air Force makes a great sales pitch for export."
Likewise, Cloughley believes the JF-17 still has a good chance to secure a sizable Egyptian order but believes it is too early to be certain.
"It seems that it would be a good choice to replace the Mirages, which are very long in the tooth, but as always the detail is in the possible deal. It's too early to speculate on what mutually agreeable terms might be, but it's likely that Pakistan (and China) would come up with a tempting offer," Cloughley said.
Pakistan is accepting JF-17 Block 2 aircraft into service, of which it ordered 50. There have been some key Block 2 features such as in-flight refueling and other modifications that will be retrofitted to the Block 1 aircraft.
However, recent reports in the Chinese media have stated any export customers will be acquiring the forthcoming Block 3 that is in its final design stages. Though it is believed to feature an AESA radar, officials are tightlipped on confirming specific details, only saying the Block 3 will be a "game changer."
A two,seat, fully combat-capable variant of the JF-17 is also believed to be undergoing the final stages of testing in China before it is unveiled.
Reuters
A JF-17 Thunder fighter participates in a flying display during the 51st Paris Air Show at Le Bourget airport near Paris, June 16, 2015.
ISLAMABAD — Despite having opted for French and Russian fighter aircraft earlier this year, Egypt has reportedly expressed an interest in the Sino-Pakistan JF-17 Thunder. This has come as a surprise to analysts who had considered the possibility of Egypt acquiring the JF-17 to be lost.
The interest comes as part of a wider push to increase defense industry cooperation between the two countries, according to a Dec. 4 news release by the Pakistani government's Press Information Department. It outlined how the Egyptian ambassador to Islamabad, Sherif Shaheen, met Pakistan's Minister for Defence Production Tanveer Hussain to discuss improving bilateral defense cooperation.
A cadet exchange program is already in place, but both sides were "looking at collaboration in defense industry as the core of relations between Pakistan and Egypt," according to the news release.
As a matter of policy, officials in Pakistan do not discuss potential defense deals until they are signed.
However, author, analyst and former Pakistani Air Force pilot Kaiser Tufail says there are two main reasons the JF-17 appeals to developing nations.
"It offers the best value for money, being one of the cheapest of the modern fighters to purchase and maintain," he said. "Its sale is not constrained by big power politics, in that it is not likely to be used as a tool for exercising leverage over the purchaser's foreign or defense policies. Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Jordan (possibly) and now Egypt are keenly eyeing the JF-17 for these reasons."
In respect to a potential Egyptian deal, author, analyst and former Australian defense attache to Islamabad Brian Cloughley believes the JF-17 has a key advantage over other fighter aircraft the Egyptians may be able to acquire.
"The Egyptians have many sources for combat aircraft, but none of those being considered for provision of advanced fighters manufacture anything like the JF-17," Cloughley said.
The Rafale and MiG-35 are larger twin-engine fighters in comparison to the JF-17, and unlike the latter are off the shelf purchases, with no local production offered for Egypt.
Analysts believe this is where the JF-17 has another advantage, and one that builds on experience.
Egypt already operates 120 Sino-Pakistani Hongdu K-8 jet trainer aircraft, the majority of which were built in Egypt by the Arab Organization for Industrialization. A similar deal for the construction of the JF-17 has been speculated since Egypt first reportedly expressed an interest in the JF-17 in 2010.
The bulk of Egypt's modern fighter fleet comprises of some 220 F-16C/Ds, but these are supported by a larger number of legacy Mirage 5, MiG-21 and Chengdu J-7 fighters. The order for 46 MiG-35s will likely replace the MiG-21s, but this leaves nearly 140 Mirage 5s and J-7s needing replacement.
As the JF-17 was designed precisely to replace these types, Tufail says it is "an excellent platform to replace the older fleet of Mirage III/5, MiG-21/F-7" and the "glitch-free induction and full operational capability of the JF-17 in the Pakistan Air Force makes a great sales pitch for export."
Likewise, Cloughley believes the JF-17 still has a good chance to secure a sizable Egyptian order but believes it is too early to be certain.
"It seems that it would be a good choice to replace the Mirages, which are very long in the tooth, but as always the detail is in the possible deal. It's too early to speculate on what mutually agreeable terms might be, but it's likely that Pakistan (and China) would come up with a tempting offer," Cloughley said.
Pakistan is accepting JF-17 Block 2 aircraft into service, of which it ordered 50. There have been some key Block 2 features such as in-flight refueling and other modifications that will be retrofitted to the Block 1 aircraft.
However, recent reports in the Chinese media have stated any export customers will be acquiring the forthcoming Block 3 that is in its final design stages. Though it is believed to feature an AESA radar, officials are tightlipped on confirming specific details, only saying the Block 3 will be a "game changer."
A two,seat, fully combat-capable variant of the JF-17 is also believed to be undergoing the final stages of testing in China before it is unveiled.
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Marrakech Air Show Invites Pakistan to Showcase JF -17 Thunder Fighter Jet
Tuesday 8 December 2015
morocco world news
Rabat – The Marrakech Airshow 2016 has invited Pakistan to showcase its JF-17 thunder fighter jet at the 5th Annual International Exhibition of Aerospace Industries to be held on April 27-30, 2016.
Under the patronage of King Mohammed VI, this upcoming Annual International Exhibition of Aerospace Industries in Marrakech will be a valuable opportunity for aerospace giants as well as investors in aeronautics industry to display their newest projects.
“The JF-I7 is a lightweight multi-role combat aircraft manufactured at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) in Kamra, Pakistan. It can be used for aerial reconnaissance, ground attack and aircraft interception,” said a communique by the Pakistan Embassy in Rabat.
“The JF-I7 can deploy diverse ordnance including air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles and is equipped with a 23 mm GSh-23-2 twin-barrel autocannon.’It is powered by a Guizhou WS-13 afterburning turbofan engine and has a top speed of Mach 1.6,” the communique concludes.
Moroccan daily newspaper Al Massae said in its December 4 issue that Morocco has expressed interest to buy the JF-I7 for its Air Force.
The organizers said this year’s exhibition is part of “Morocco’s strategy to develop its aviation base and strengthen the aviation sector, notably in terms of industrial investment and technology transfer.”
The four-day airshow expects more than 20,000 visitors and more than 200 participants from 20 different countries.
“These aircraft manufacturers see Morocco as the gateway to the promising African market for civilian, military aviation and business aviation,” the organizers added.
http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/201...kistan-to-showcase-jf-17-thunder-fighter-jet/
Tuesday 8 December 2015
morocco world news
Rabat – The Marrakech Airshow 2016 has invited Pakistan to showcase its JF-17 thunder fighter jet at the 5th Annual International Exhibition of Aerospace Industries to be held on April 27-30, 2016.
Under the patronage of King Mohammed VI, this upcoming Annual International Exhibition of Aerospace Industries in Marrakech will be a valuable opportunity for aerospace giants as well as investors in aeronautics industry to display their newest projects.
“The JF-I7 is a lightweight multi-role combat aircraft manufactured at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) in Kamra, Pakistan. It can be used for aerial reconnaissance, ground attack and aircraft interception,” said a communique by the Pakistan Embassy in Rabat.
“The JF-I7 can deploy diverse ordnance including air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles and is equipped with a 23 mm GSh-23-2 twin-barrel autocannon.’It is powered by a Guizhou WS-13 afterburning turbofan engine and has a top speed of Mach 1.6,” the communique concludes.
Moroccan daily newspaper Al Massae said in its December 4 issue that Morocco has expressed interest to buy the JF-I7 for its Air Force.
The organizers said this year’s exhibition is part of “Morocco’s strategy to develop its aviation base and strengthen the aviation sector, notably in terms of industrial investment and technology transfer.”
The four-day airshow expects more than 20,000 visitors and more than 200 participants from 20 different countries.
“These aircraft manufacturers see Morocco as the gateway to the promising African market for civilian, military aviation and business aviation,” the organizers added.
http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/201...kistan-to-showcase-jf-17-thunder-fighter-jet/
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Indo-SL tension over JF17 Pakistan deal
Sri Lankan Government is facing mounting pressure from its powerful neighbour India over a defence deal Sri Lanka is to enter into with Pakistan. According to highly placed sources in the diplomatic circles, India has expressed its strong opposition to a deal the SL Government entered into with the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to purchase 10 JF-17 combat aircraft.
Ceylontoday, 2015-12-06
Indo-SL tension over JF17 Pakistan deal
Sri Lankan Government is facing mounting pressure from its powerful neighbour India over a defence deal Sri Lanka is to enter into with Pakistan. According to highly placed sources in the diplomatic circles, India has expressed its strong opposition to a deal the SL Government entered into with the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to purchase 10 JF-17 combat aircraft.
The deal was entered into apparently when former Air Force Commander Jayalath Weerakkody was serving as the Sri Lankan High Commissioner in Pakistan.
It is a lightweight, single-engine, multi-role combat aircraft developed jointly by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) and the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) of China. The JF-17 can be used for aerial reconnaissance, ground attack and aircraft interception. Its designation 'JF-17' by Pakistan is short for 'Joint Fighter-17'
The JF-17 was primarily developed to meet the PAF's requirement for an affordable, modern, multi-role combat aircraft as a replacement for its large fleet of Dassault Mirage III/5 fighters, Nanchang A-5 bombers, and Chengdu F-7 interceptors, with a cost of US$ 500 million, divided equally between China and Pakistan. The aircraft was also intended to have export potential as a cost-effective and competitive alternative to more expensive Western fighters. The development of this aircraft was headed by Yang Wei (aircraft designer), who is considered China's 'ace designer'. Wei also designed the Chengdu J-20.
By 1989, because of economic sanctions by the US, Pakistan had abandoned Project Sabre II, a design study involving US aircraft manufacturer Grumman and China, and had decided to redesign and upgrade the Chengdu F-7. In the same year, China and Grumman started a new design study to develop the Super 7, another redesigned Chengdu F-7. Grumman left the project when sanctions were placed on China following the political fallout from the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. After Grumman left the Chengdu Super 7 project, the Fighter China project was launched in 1991. In 1995, Pakistan and China signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) for joint design and development of a new fighter and over the next few years worked out the project details. In June 1995, Mikoyan had joined the project to provide 'design support', this also involved the secondment of several engineers by CAC. (Source-Wikipedia)
According to sources, Indian National Security Adviser Ajit Doval had personally expressed India's concerns on the deal to President Maithripala Sirisena and Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe.
Doval who telephoned both President Sirisena and Prime Minister Wickremesinghe had told them outright that New Delhi is against the deal.
He warned that Sri Lanka will have to face serious repercussions if Sri Lanka was to seal the deal with Pakistan.
Sri Lanka on the other hand had offered to purchase three naval ships from India. This, however, was not favoured by India and New Delhi was firm on its stance.
To give in, Sri Lankan Defence Ministry had asked for 10 JF-17 aircraft or a similar craft. India came up with a counter deal where it offered a credit line to SL Government to purchase combat aircraft. The condition is that the government could buy the aircraft from any country other than Pakistan.
Pakistan, as things developed, renewed their offer by stating they would give 10 F-7 combat craft free, if we are going for an outright purchase. Pakistan also plans to announce the deal during Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Shariff's imminent visit to Colombo in January 2016.
However, India - Pakistan relationship will reach a breaking point with Sri Lanka's final decision on the aircraft deal.
Meanwhile, the government seems to have thought of maximizing this situation, as it indicated giving the nod to the Colombo Port City Project.
The EIA was finalized and the investor published the 1,000-page report. However, contrary to normal procedure of making the report available on line for the public to give their views and comments on the project, the Chinese investor had opted to a different path.
Accordingly, those who want to comment on the EIA report will have to buy the report and write their comments manually and hand it over again.
India which was completely against the China Port City project, meanwhile, has loosened its grip on the matter and said they have no issue if the government and the Chinese company agree to certain amendments including the land ownership.
However, this much reluctant approval comes with a condition of Sri Lanka dropping the aircraft deal with Pakistan.
Maldives to be blacklisted
The Commonwealth is mulling to suspend the Maldives from its membership over the escalating crisis situation and deteriorating democracy in the country.
The decision to ban the Maldives has been seriously considered at a closed door meeting held on the sides of the Heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM) in Malta.
The high level closed door meeting was convened and headed by the UK Prime Minister David Cameron and the suggestion was backed by Commonwealth superpowers including India.
The meeting was held in complete secrecy where no one was even allowed to serve any refreshments for the heads of governments.
Earlier, both Fiji and Pakistan faced suspensions twice. Sri Lanka vehemently opposed the suspension of Pakistan in 2007 but this time, it was learnt that President Maithripala Sirisena was left with no option, thus had nod to the decisions.
The reason behind this anti-Maldives policy of the West and the India alike erupted from the Maldives President's dictatorial administration and his pro-China policies.
CHOGM in November 2007 suspended Pakistan during President Pervez Musharraf's military regime which led to gradual ouster of Musharraf from office.
This was done in the hope of bringing democracy to Pakistan, and it seems Commonwealth heads are applying the same method to bring democracy to the Maldives.
Anura meets
business community
Leader of the Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna, Anura Kumara Dissanyake, along with MP Sunil Handunnetti attended a forum organized by Sinhala business owners' group recently.
During the Question and Answer Session Dissanayake revealed quite a lot on his party's stance on certain issues.
When asked to reveal what his party thinks of the new Lands Bill proposed by Budget 2016 which would allow foreigners to own lands in the country, Dissanayake has noted that his party is completely against the Bill and also told the gathering that as far as he was aware, even President Sirisena is against such a Bill which would make farmers lose their lands.
When asked about his stance on the CEPA, Dissanayake said he is in possession of information that the two governments are planning to finalize the deal under a different name. He had vouched that the party would do anything and everything against such an agreement be it CEPA or comes with a different name.
Most important revelation came when one asked him as to what they would do with having the leadership of COPE, the Parliamentary corruption watchdog.
Dissanayake said the COPE would commence a fresh investigation on the Central Bank bond issue and the report will be made public even if the Ministers concerned were found guilty.
http://www.ceylontoday.lk/31-111508-news-detail-indo-sl-tension-over-jf17-pakistan-deal.html
Sri Lankan Government is facing mounting pressure from its powerful neighbour India over a defence deal Sri Lanka is to enter into with Pakistan. According to highly placed sources in the diplomatic circles, India has expressed its strong opposition to a deal the SL Government entered into with the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to purchase 10 JF-17 combat aircraft.
Ceylontoday, 2015-12-06
Indo-SL tension over JF17 Pakistan deal
Sri Lankan Government is facing mounting pressure from its powerful neighbour India over a defence deal Sri Lanka is to enter into with Pakistan. According to highly placed sources in the diplomatic circles, India has expressed its strong opposition to a deal the SL Government entered into with the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to purchase 10 JF-17 combat aircraft.
The deal was entered into apparently when former Air Force Commander Jayalath Weerakkody was serving as the Sri Lankan High Commissioner in Pakistan.
It is a lightweight, single-engine, multi-role combat aircraft developed jointly by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) and the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) of China. The JF-17 can be used for aerial reconnaissance, ground attack and aircraft interception. Its designation 'JF-17' by Pakistan is short for 'Joint Fighter-17'
The JF-17 was primarily developed to meet the PAF's requirement for an affordable, modern, multi-role combat aircraft as a replacement for its large fleet of Dassault Mirage III/5 fighters, Nanchang A-5 bombers, and Chengdu F-7 interceptors, with a cost of US$ 500 million, divided equally between China and Pakistan. The aircraft was also intended to have export potential as a cost-effective and competitive alternative to more expensive Western fighters. The development of this aircraft was headed by Yang Wei (aircraft designer), who is considered China's 'ace designer'. Wei also designed the Chengdu J-20.
By 1989, because of economic sanctions by the US, Pakistan had abandoned Project Sabre II, a design study involving US aircraft manufacturer Grumman and China, and had decided to redesign and upgrade the Chengdu F-7. In the same year, China and Grumman started a new design study to develop the Super 7, another redesigned Chengdu F-7. Grumman left the project when sanctions were placed on China following the political fallout from the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. After Grumman left the Chengdu Super 7 project, the Fighter China project was launched in 1991. In 1995, Pakistan and China signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) for joint design and development of a new fighter and over the next few years worked out the project details. In June 1995, Mikoyan had joined the project to provide 'design support', this also involved the secondment of several engineers by CAC. (Source-Wikipedia)
According to sources, Indian National Security Adviser Ajit Doval had personally expressed India's concerns on the deal to President Maithripala Sirisena and Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe.
Doval who telephoned both President Sirisena and Prime Minister Wickremesinghe had told them outright that New Delhi is against the deal.
He warned that Sri Lanka will have to face serious repercussions if Sri Lanka was to seal the deal with Pakistan.
Sri Lanka on the other hand had offered to purchase three naval ships from India. This, however, was not favoured by India and New Delhi was firm on its stance.
To give in, Sri Lankan Defence Ministry had asked for 10 JF-17 aircraft or a similar craft. India came up with a counter deal where it offered a credit line to SL Government to purchase combat aircraft. The condition is that the government could buy the aircraft from any country other than Pakistan.
Pakistan, as things developed, renewed their offer by stating they would give 10 F-7 combat craft free, if we are going for an outright purchase. Pakistan also plans to announce the deal during Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Shariff's imminent visit to Colombo in January 2016.
However, India - Pakistan relationship will reach a breaking point with Sri Lanka's final decision on the aircraft deal.
Meanwhile, the government seems to have thought of maximizing this situation, as it indicated giving the nod to the Colombo Port City Project.
The EIA was finalized and the investor published the 1,000-page report. However, contrary to normal procedure of making the report available on line for the public to give their views and comments on the project, the Chinese investor had opted to a different path.
Accordingly, those who want to comment on the EIA report will have to buy the report and write their comments manually and hand it over again.
India which was completely against the China Port City project, meanwhile, has loosened its grip on the matter and said they have no issue if the government and the Chinese company agree to certain amendments including the land ownership.
However, this much reluctant approval comes with a condition of Sri Lanka dropping the aircraft deal with Pakistan.
Maldives to be blacklisted
The Commonwealth is mulling to suspend the Maldives from its membership over the escalating crisis situation and deteriorating democracy in the country.
The decision to ban the Maldives has been seriously considered at a closed door meeting held on the sides of the Heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM) in Malta.
The high level closed door meeting was convened and headed by the UK Prime Minister David Cameron and the suggestion was backed by Commonwealth superpowers including India.
The meeting was held in complete secrecy where no one was even allowed to serve any refreshments for the heads of governments.
Earlier, both Fiji and Pakistan faced suspensions twice. Sri Lanka vehemently opposed the suspension of Pakistan in 2007 but this time, it was learnt that President Maithripala Sirisena was left with no option, thus had nod to the decisions.
The reason behind this anti-Maldives policy of the West and the India alike erupted from the Maldives President's dictatorial administration and his pro-China policies.
CHOGM in November 2007 suspended Pakistan during President Pervez Musharraf's military regime which led to gradual ouster of Musharraf from office.
This was done in the hope of bringing democracy to Pakistan, and it seems Commonwealth heads are applying the same method to bring democracy to the Maldives.
Anura meets
business community
Leader of the Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna, Anura Kumara Dissanyake, along with MP Sunil Handunnetti attended a forum organized by Sinhala business owners' group recently.
During the Question and Answer Session Dissanayake revealed quite a lot on his party's stance on certain issues.
When asked to reveal what his party thinks of the new Lands Bill proposed by Budget 2016 which would allow foreigners to own lands in the country, Dissanayake has noted that his party is completely against the Bill and also told the gathering that as far as he was aware, even President Sirisena is against such a Bill which would make farmers lose their lands.
When asked about his stance on the CEPA, Dissanayake said he is in possession of information that the two governments are planning to finalize the deal under a different name. He had vouched that the party would do anything and everything against such an agreement be it CEPA or comes with a different name.
Most important revelation came when one asked him as to what they would do with having the leadership of COPE, the Parliamentary corruption watchdog.
Dissanayake said the COPE would commence a fresh investigation on the Central Bank bond issue and the report will be made public even if the Ministers concerned were found guilty.
http://www.ceylontoday.lk/31-111508-news-detail-indo-sl-tension-over-jf17-pakistan-deal.html
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Conclusion: no jet sell to sri Lanka .wall the day dream has came to an endIndo-SL tension over JF17 Pakistan deal
Sri Lankan Government is facing mounting pressure from its powerful neighbour India over a defence deal Sri Lanka is to enter into with Pakistan. According to highly placed sources in the diplomatic circles, India has expressed its strong opposition to a deal the SL Government entered into with the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to purchase 10 JF-17 combat aircraft.
Ceylontoday, 2015-12-06
Indo-SL tension over JF17 Pakistan deal
Sri Lankan Government is facing mounting pressure from its powerful neighbour India over a defence deal Sri Lanka is to enter into with Pakistan. According to highly placed sources in the diplomatic circles, India has expressed its strong opposition to a deal the SL Government entered into with the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to purchase 10 JF-17 combat aircraft.
The deal was entered into apparently when former Air Force Commander Jayalath Weerakkody was serving as the Sri Lankan High Commissioner in Pakistan.
It is a lightweight, single-engine, multi-role combat aircraft developed jointly by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) and the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) of China. The JF-17 can be used for aerial reconnaissance, ground attack and aircraft interception. Its designation 'JF-17' by Pakistan is short for 'Joint Fighter-17'
The JF-17 was primarily developed to meet the PAF's requirement for an affordable, modern, multi-role combat aircraft as a replacement for its large fleet of Dassault Mirage III/5 fighters, Nanchang A-5 bombers, and Chengdu F-7 interceptors, with a cost of US$ 500 million, divided equally between China and Pakistan. The aircraft was also intended to have export potential as a cost-effective and competitive alternative to more expensive Western fighters. The development of this aircraft was headed by Yang Wei (aircraft designer), who is considered China's 'ace designer'. Wei also designed the Chengdu J-20.
By 1989, because of economic sanctions by the US, Pakistan had abandoned Project Sabre II, a design study involving US aircraft manufacturer Grumman and China, and had decided to redesign and upgrade the Chengdu F-7. In the same year, China and Grumman started a new design study to develop the Super 7, another redesigned Chengdu F-7. Grumman left the project when sanctions were placed on China following the political fallout from the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. After Grumman left the Chengdu Super 7 project, the Fighter China project was launched in 1991. In 1995, Pakistan and China signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) for joint design and development of a new fighter and over the next few years worked out the project details. In June 1995, Mikoyan had joined the project to provide 'design support', this also involved the secondment of several engineers by CAC. (Source-Wikipedia)
According to sources, Indian National Security Adviser Ajit Doval had personally expressed India's concerns on the deal to President Maithripala Sirisena and Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe.
Doval who telephoned both President Sirisena and Prime Minister Wickremesinghe had told them outright that New Delhi is against the deal.
He warned that Sri Lanka will have to face serious repercussions if Sri Lanka was to seal the deal with Pakistan.
Sri Lanka on the other hand had offered to purchase three naval ships from India. This, however, was not favoured by India and New Delhi was firm on its stance.
To give in, Sri Lankan Defence Ministry had asked for 10 JF-17 aircraft or a similar craft. India came up with a counter deal where it offered a credit line to SL Government to purchase combat aircraft. The condition is that the government could buy the aircraft from any country other than Pakistan.
Pakistan, as things developed, renewed their offer by stating they would give 10 F-7 combat craft free, if we are going for an outright purchase. Pakistan also plans to announce the deal during Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Shariff's imminent visit to Colombo in January 2016.
However, India - Pakistan relationship will reach a breaking point with Sri Lanka's final decision on the aircraft deal.
Meanwhile, the government seems to have thought of maximizing this situation, as it indicated giving the nod to the Colombo Port City Project.
The EIA was finalized and the investor published the 1,000-page report. However, contrary to normal procedure of making the report available on line for the public to give their views and comments on the project, the Chinese investor had opted to a different path.
Accordingly, those who want to comment on the EIA report will have to buy the report and write their comments manually and hand it over again.
India which was completely against the China Port City project, meanwhile, has loosened its grip on the matter and said they have no issue if the government and the Chinese company agree to certain amendments including the land ownership.
However, this much reluctant approval comes with a condition of Sri Lanka dropping the aircraft deal with Pakistan.
Maldives to be blacklisted
The Commonwealth is mulling to suspend the Maldives from its membership over the escalating crisis situation and deteriorating democracy in the country.
The decision to ban the Maldives has been seriously considered at a closed door meeting held on the sides of the Heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM) in Malta.
The high level closed door meeting was convened and headed by the UK Prime Minister David Cameron and the suggestion was backed by Commonwealth superpowers including India.
The meeting was held in complete secrecy where no one was even allowed to serve any refreshments for the heads of governments.
Earlier, both Fiji and Pakistan faced suspensions twice. Sri Lanka vehemently opposed the suspension of Pakistan in 2007 but this time, it was learnt that President Maithripala Sirisena was left with no option, thus had nod to the decisions.
The reason behind this anti-Maldives policy of the West and the India alike erupted from the Maldives President's dictatorial administration and his pro-China policies.
CHOGM in November 2007 suspended Pakistan during President Pervez Musharraf's military regime which led to gradual ouster of Musharraf from office.
This was done in the hope of bringing democracy to Pakistan, and it seems Commonwealth heads are applying the same method to bring democracy to the Maldives.
Anura meets
business community
Leader of the Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna, Anura Kumara Dissanyake, along with MP Sunil Handunnetti attended a forum organized by Sinhala business owners' group recently.
During the Question and Answer Session Dissanayake revealed quite a lot on his party's stance on certain issues.
When asked to reveal what his party thinks of the new Lands Bill proposed by Budget 2016 which would allow foreigners to own lands in the country, Dissanayake has noted that his party is completely against the Bill and also told the gathering that as far as he was aware, even President Sirisena is against such a Bill which would make farmers lose their lands.
When asked about his stance on the CEPA, Dissanayake said he is in possession of information that the two governments are planning to finalize the deal under a different name. He had vouched that the party would do anything and everything against such an agreement be it CEPA or comes with a different name.
Most important revelation came when one asked him as to what they would do with having the leadership of COPE, the Parliamentary corruption watchdog.
Dissanayake said the COPE would commence a fresh investigation on the Central Bank bond issue and the report will be made public even if the Ministers concerned were found guilty.
http://www.ceylontoday.lk/31-111508-news-detail-indo-sl-tension-over-jf17-pakistan-deal.html
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Its time to burst some egos..
After Sri Lanka, here comes malaysia..
Malaysia considering to purchase JF-17 Thunder from Pakistan: Malaysian HC
ISLAMABAD, Dec 16 (APP):- Malaysia was considering as one of the option to purchase JF-17 Thunder jet fighters from Pakistan and deal in this regard would be finalised between the two countries after completing required formalities.
This was stated by the High Commissioner of Malaysia to Pakistan, H.E. Dato' Dr. Hasrul Sani bin Mujtabar here on Wednesday in an interview with APP.
The High Commissioner said that Pakistan and Malaysia were enjoying excellent relations in the defence sector as a result of Joint Committee on Defence of both the brotherly countries which played as a very active forum.
Responding to a question that Malaysia wanted to purchase how many JF-17 Thunder from Pakistan, the High Commissioner said that "this jet fighter is considered an excellent production of Pakistan in the defence sector and decision about numbers would be taken very soon by the Malaysian government".
About Pakistan-Malaysia bilateral relations, H.E. Dato' Dr. Hasrul Sani expressed his satisfaction over the existing bilateral relations and said that both the brotherly countries were enjoying cordial and fraternal bilateral relations especially in the field of trade, economy and defence beside others.
Talking about Pakistan as a trade partner he said that Pakistan was one of the largest trade partner of Malaysia with a total trade volume of more than two billion US dollars and that could be enhanced further in the times to come.
Responding to a question about main sectors of the trade between Pakistan and Malaysia, the High Commissioner said that Malaysian trade with Pakistan ranged from energy sector to infrastructure and palm oil to service sector.
When asked about Malaysian investment in Pakistan he said that Malaysian companies were very keen to invest in different sectors of Pakistan but they were reluctant due to security situation in the country.
Now, Malaysian investors may invest in Pakistan again as the security situation has improved owing to the efforts of the government especially after the success of the operation Zarb-e-Azb against terrorists, the High Commissioner observed.
He said that Malaysian investors were interested to invest in various sectors especially in energy sector, oil and gas, mining, infrastructure and even in plantation of palm oil trees in the coastal areas of Pakistan through joint ventures.
Malaysian companies were looking for joint ventures with Pakistani companies through chambers of commerce to invest in mining and energy sectors especially in Hydro Power projects, the High Commissioner said.
Giving example of revival of Malaysian investment in the Pakistan he said that one of the largest companies, PETRONAS was considering to come back to Pakistan for investment in various sectors including energy, oil and gas, hydro Power and infrastructure.
Responding to a question that what should be the strategy of Pakistan to attract foreign investment, he said the government of Pakistan should provide proper infrastructure, good banking system besides one window services to international companies to attract them for investment. ?
Continuing, he said that many Malaysian and other international companies were interested to invest in various projects in Gwadar but could not come due to non-availability of proper infrastructure and facilities.
When asked about the recently announced China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), the High Commissioner said that, "Pakistan is a blessed country with an important strategic position and it should take maximum advantage from this position for the development of the country and betterment of the nation through economic revolution".
"We are happy over the announcement of CPEC with a total volume of investment more than US dollars 40 billion and this project will attract multi billion dollars further investment to Pakistan as it is being considered one of the biggest indicator for the better economic future of Pakistan", he commented.
"CPEC will change the entire economy of Pakistan and it will be a huge project which will open many windows of development in Pakistan. It will not only be beneficial for Pakistan and China but for the entire region as well as whole Asia", he maintained.
The High Commissioner also appreciated efforts of Pakistan for bringing peace in Afghanistan and lauded its role for holding Heart of Asia Conference. He hoped there would be a permanent peace and stability in Afghanistan due to the efforts of international countries especially neighbouring countries.
Pakistan should also focus on enhancing its trade relations with ASEAN countries as there was a great scope of exporting Pakistani goods especially rice beside other items to ASEAN countries, the High Commissioner suggested.
Malaysia was the largest importer of rice and mangoes from Pakistan he said, adding, and, was focusing on some other items like meat and other halal foods.
Regarding high level visits between the two countries, he said invitations had already been exchanged at Prime Ministers' level and expected it would be materialised by the first half of next year.
He also disclosed that the High Commission of Malaysia would very soon extend the invitation to President of Pakistan to visit Malaysia.
Regarding flow of Pakistani students to Malaysia, he said right now more than 4,000 Pakistani students are studying in various Malaysian educational institutions and he expected more in the coming years.
Malaysia had become a hub of education sector and more than 100,000 (one lac) foreign students are studying in Malaysia right now.
Talking about tourism opportunities in Malaysia, he said that about 80,000 Pakistani tourists are visiting Malaysia annually and there was numerous scope of more tourists to visit Malaysian.
After Sri Lanka, here comes malaysia..
Malaysia considering to purchase JF-17 Thunder from Pakistan: Malaysian HC
ISLAMABAD, Dec 16 (APP):- Malaysia was considering as one of the option to purchase JF-17 Thunder jet fighters from Pakistan and deal in this regard would be finalised between the two countries after completing required formalities.
This was stated by the High Commissioner of Malaysia to Pakistan, H.E. Dato' Dr. Hasrul Sani bin Mujtabar here on Wednesday in an interview with APP.
The High Commissioner said that Pakistan and Malaysia were enjoying excellent relations in the defence sector as a result of Joint Committee on Defence of both the brotherly countries which played as a very active forum.
Responding to a question that Malaysia wanted to purchase how many JF-17 Thunder from Pakistan, the High Commissioner said that "this jet fighter is considered an excellent production of Pakistan in the defence sector and decision about numbers would be taken very soon by the Malaysian government".
About Pakistan-Malaysia bilateral relations, H.E. Dato' Dr. Hasrul Sani expressed his satisfaction over the existing bilateral relations and said that both the brotherly countries were enjoying cordial and fraternal bilateral relations especially in the field of trade, economy and defence beside others.
Talking about Pakistan as a trade partner he said that Pakistan was one of the largest trade partner of Malaysia with a total trade volume of more than two billion US dollars and that could be enhanced further in the times to come.
Responding to a question about main sectors of the trade between Pakistan and Malaysia, the High Commissioner said that Malaysian trade with Pakistan ranged from energy sector to infrastructure and palm oil to service sector.
When asked about Malaysian investment in Pakistan he said that Malaysian companies were very keen to invest in different sectors of Pakistan but they were reluctant due to security situation in the country.
Now, Malaysian investors may invest in Pakistan again as the security situation has improved owing to the efforts of the government especially after the success of the operation Zarb-e-Azb against terrorists, the High Commissioner observed.
He said that Malaysian investors were interested to invest in various sectors especially in energy sector, oil and gas, mining, infrastructure and even in plantation of palm oil trees in the coastal areas of Pakistan through joint ventures.
Malaysian companies were looking for joint ventures with Pakistani companies through chambers of commerce to invest in mining and energy sectors especially in Hydro Power projects, the High Commissioner said.
Giving example of revival of Malaysian investment in the Pakistan he said that one of the largest companies, PETRONAS was considering to come back to Pakistan for investment in various sectors including energy, oil and gas, hydro Power and infrastructure.
Responding to a question that what should be the strategy of Pakistan to attract foreign investment, he said the government of Pakistan should provide proper infrastructure, good banking system besides one window services to international companies to attract them for investment. ?
Continuing, he said that many Malaysian and other international companies were interested to invest in various projects in Gwadar but could not come due to non-availability of proper infrastructure and facilities.
When asked about the recently announced China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), the High Commissioner said that, "Pakistan is a blessed country with an important strategic position and it should take maximum advantage from this position for the development of the country and betterment of the nation through economic revolution".
"We are happy over the announcement of CPEC with a total volume of investment more than US dollars 40 billion and this project will attract multi billion dollars further investment to Pakistan as it is being considered one of the biggest indicator for the better economic future of Pakistan", he commented.
"CPEC will change the entire economy of Pakistan and it will be a huge project which will open many windows of development in Pakistan. It will not only be beneficial for Pakistan and China but for the entire region as well as whole Asia", he maintained.
The High Commissioner also appreciated efforts of Pakistan for bringing peace in Afghanistan and lauded its role for holding Heart of Asia Conference. He hoped there would be a permanent peace and stability in Afghanistan due to the efforts of international countries especially neighbouring countries.
Pakistan should also focus on enhancing its trade relations with ASEAN countries as there was a great scope of exporting Pakistani goods especially rice beside other items to ASEAN countries, the High Commissioner suggested.
Malaysia was the largest importer of rice and mangoes from Pakistan he said, adding, and, was focusing on some other items like meat and other halal foods.
Regarding high level visits between the two countries, he said invitations had already been exchanged at Prime Ministers' level and expected it would be materialised by the first half of next year.
He also disclosed that the High Commission of Malaysia would very soon extend the invitation to President of Pakistan to visit Malaysia.
Regarding flow of Pakistani students to Malaysia, he said right now more than 4,000 Pakistani students are studying in various Malaysian educational institutions and he expected more in the coming years.
Malaysia had become a hub of education sector and more than 100,000 (one lac) foreign students are studying in Malaysia right now.
Talking about tourism opportunities in Malaysia, he said that about 80,000 Pakistani tourists are visiting Malaysia annually and there was numerous scope of more tourists to visit Malaysian.
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So Sri Lanka has made the payment? And Malaysian payment has been wired?
pakis are know to write long accolades for the so called / alleged sale of cheap paint jobs on chinese junk and claim a lot more than they can chew.......till the time your beggar nation or dollar army does not receive Dollars or any currency as payment or agreement till then these are wet islamic dreams where pigs fly!
pakis are know to write long accolades for the so called / alleged sale of cheap paint jobs on chinese junk and claim a lot more than they can chew.......till the time your beggar nation or dollar army does not receive Dollars or any currency as payment or agreement till then these are wet islamic dreams where pigs fly!
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It is really funny how porkies describe Muslim countries as Brotherly countries. Well none of those Brotherly countries come to help porkies when their asses are whooped. Rather they strive to have better bilateral ties with India because even they know where the real money is.Its time to burst some egos..
After Sri Lanka, here comes malaysia..
Malaysia considering to purchase JF-17 Thunder from Pakistan: Malaysian HC
ISLAMABAD, Dec 16 (APP):- Malaysia was considering as one of the option to purchase JF-17 Thunder jet fighters from Pakistan and deal in this regard would be finalised between the two countries after completing required formalities.
This was stated by the High Commissioner of Malaysia to Pakistan, H.E. Dato' Dr. Hasrul Sani bin Mujtabar here on Wednesday in an interview with APP.
The High Commissioner said that Pakistan and Malaysia were enjoying excellent relations in the defence sector as a result of Joint Committee on Defence of both the brotherly countries which played as a very active forum.
Responding to a question that Malaysia wanted to purchase how many JF-17 Thunder from Pakistan, the High Commissioner said that "this jet fighter is considered an excellent production of Pakistan in the defence sector and decision about numbers would be taken very soon by the Malaysian government".
About Pakistan-Malaysia bilateral relations, H.E. Dato' Dr. Hasrul Sani expressed his satisfaction over the existing bilateral relations and said that both the brotherly countries were enjoying cordial and fraternal bilateral relations especially in the field of trade, economy and defence beside others.
Talking about Pakistan as a trade partner he said that Pakistan was one of the largest trade partner of Malaysia with a total trade volume of more than two billion US dollars and that could be enhanced further in the times to come.
Responding to a question about main sectors of the trade between Pakistan and Malaysia, the High Commissioner said that Malaysian trade with Pakistan ranged from energy sector to infrastructure and palm oil to service sector.
When asked about Malaysian investment in Pakistan he said that Malaysian companies were very keen to invest in different sectors of Pakistan but they were reluctant due to security situation in the country.
Now, Malaysian investors may invest in Pakistan again as the security situation has improved owing to the efforts of the government especially after the success of the operation Zarb-e-Azb against terrorists, the High Commissioner observed.
He said that Malaysian investors were interested to invest in various sectors especially in energy sector, oil and gas, mining, infrastructure and even in plantation of palm oil trees in the coastal areas of Pakistan through joint ventures.
Malaysian companies were looking for joint ventures with Pakistani companies through chambers of commerce to invest in mining and energy sectors especially in Hydro Power projects, the High Commissioner said.
Giving example of revival of Malaysian investment in the Pakistan he said that one of the largest companies, PETRONAS was considering to come back to Pakistan for investment in various sectors including energy, oil and gas, hydro Power and infrastructure.
Responding to a question that what should be the strategy of Pakistan to attract foreign investment, he said the government of Pakistan should provide proper infrastructure, good banking system besides one window services to international companies to attract them for investment. ?
Continuing, he said that many Malaysian and other international companies were interested to invest in various projects in Gwadar but could not come due to non-availability of proper infrastructure and facilities.
When asked about the recently announced China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), the High Commissioner said that, "Pakistan is a blessed country with an important strategic position and it should take maximum advantage from this position for the development of the country and betterment of the nation through economic revolution".
"We are happy over the announcement of CPEC with a total volume of investment more than US dollars 40 billion and this project will attract multi billion dollars further investment to Pakistan as it is being considered one of the biggest indicator for the better economic future of Pakistan", he commented.
"CPEC will change the entire economy of Pakistan and it will be a huge project which will open many windows of development in Pakistan. It will not only be beneficial for Pakistan and China but for the entire region as well as whole Asia", he maintained.
The High Commissioner also appreciated efforts of Pakistan for bringing peace in Afghanistan and lauded its role for holding Heart of Asia Conference. He hoped there would be a permanent peace and stability in Afghanistan due to the efforts of international countries especially neighbouring countries.
Pakistan should also focus on enhancing its trade relations with ASEAN countries as there was a great scope of exporting Pakistani goods especially rice beside other items to ASEAN countries, the High Commissioner suggested.
Malaysia was the largest importer of rice and mangoes from Pakistan he said, adding, and, was focusing on some other items like meat and other halal foods.
Regarding high level visits between the two countries, he said invitations had already been exchanged at Prime Ministers' level and expected it would be materialised by the first half of next year.
He also disclosed that the High Commission of Malaysia would very soon extend the invitation to President of Pakistan to visit Malaysia.
Regarding flow of Pakistani students to Malaysia, he said right now more than 4,000 Pakistani students are studying in various Malaysian educational institutions and he expected more in the coming years.
Malaysia had become a hub of education sector and more than 100,000 (one lac) foreign students are studying in Malaysia right now.
Talking about tourism opportunities in Malaysia, he said that about 80,000 Pakistani tourists are visiting Malaysia annually and there was numerous scope of more tourists to visit Malaysian.
For Pakis,
non-binding Memorandum of Understanding = binding contract (like what happens every time when a Chinese Premier/President visit Pakistan)
expressing interest = confirm orders (like what happens when some 'brotherly' countries show interest in their chini imported paki painted weapon system)
non-binding Memorandum of Understanding = binding contract (like what happens every time when a Chinese Premier/President visit Pakistan)
expressing interest = confirm orders (like what happens when some 'brotherly' countries show interest in their chini imported paki painted weapon system)
Its still manufactured in China and they don't even use it.the 29th JF-17 of Block II batch is going to fly in CAC...
serial Number： 229 or 2P-29...this is another one assembled in China
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the Making of JF-17B/FC-1B ,the two seater tainer, began on 9th Nov 2015...
source: CAN news...
http://www.81.cn/rd/2015-11/16/content_6770567.htm
LOL.....a big sigh again...
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CAC assembled two JF17 within recent two years...they are 0213(2P13) and 0229(2P29)...
the former is the first one equipted with 'New onboard environment control system'
the Xinhua news on Page 87 of this thread...
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2015-01/27/c_127426685_2.htm
the 0229(2P29) is supposed to be the first Newly built Serial Prodution jet with AAR...
the Jane's news posted still on Page 87...
http://www.janes.com/article/49991/block-2-jf-17-makes-first-flight-ahead-of-block-3-improvements
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CAC assembled two JF17 within recent two years...they are 0213(2P13) and 0229(2P29)...
the former is the first one equipted with 'New onboard environment control system'
the Xinhua news on Page 87 of this thread...
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2015-01/27/c_127426685_2.htm
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the 0229(2P29) is supposed to be the first Newly built Serial Prodution jet with AAR...
the Jane's news posted still on Page 87...
http://www.janes.com/article/49991/block-2-jf-17-makes-first-flight-ahead-of-block-3-improvements
click for the full image...
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No Plan To Buy Pakistan Fighter Jet - Hishammuddin
From Malaysian defence minister...
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Claim..
Malaysia's largest trading partners are China, followed by Singapore and Japan. Pakistan is not even in top ten list.
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Claim...
and
considering the amount of fallacious claims within the article, I'm guessing this whole "interview" was a made up stuff by some Pakistani .Malaysian high commissioner never said anything about CPEC, Afghanistan nor about jf-17... if he did, then he is a retard.
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