JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

[LordOfTheUnderworlds]

what is this 2015_2016 war? is there some thread for it?

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

pakistani air force

indian air force

 

[SURB]

pakistani air force

indian air force

That's a pretty unfair comparison dear @shuvo@y2k10.The Wicked Witch against the IAF.
I'll replace the "W" with a "B" though. PAF has the knack to be really bitchy at times.
Good day!

 

[farhan_9909]

pakistani air force

indian air force

Lol

Actions speak louder than words
First Blood in 1959
in 65 having a kill rate of 102-120 aircraft against IAF despite outnumbered by 5 times in quantity
in 71 closer to 100 again
2 in kargil
and 1 uav in 2003

compared to pak lost only 20 in 65
32 in 71
and none after that except a civilian unarmed airacraft

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

all those fake aircraft kill rate are manufactured by paki propoganda machine.you have no evidence to support your claim.tommorow taliban will claim to have shot down 100 american f22 raptor and we have to beleive in that? the reality speaks for itself:we have 4 wars since independence:india4-pakistan 0

 

[sayareakd]

Lol

Actions speak louder than words
First Blood in 1959
in 65 having a kill rate of 102-120 aircraft against IAF despite outnumbered by 5 times in quantity
in 71 closer to 100 again
2 in kargil
and 1 uav in 2003

compared to pak lost only 20 in 65
32 in 71
and none after that except a civilian unarmed airacraft

quit strange that numbers of 1965 even through war was started by Pakistan with same guys didnt save Pakistan from Breaking up in 1971.
Kargil war had one of the planes has technical problem pilot bail out other pilot who gone to save their was hit by SAM fired by those who has occupied kargil heights.

BTW have you seen this pic

 

[Rahul Singh]

quit strange that numbers of 1965 even through war was started by Pakistan with same guys didnt save Pakistan from Breaking up in 1971.
Kargil war had one of the planes has technical problem pilot bail out other pilot who gone to save their was hit by SAM fired by those who has occupied kargil heights.

BTW have you seen this pic

It is criminal, you called god trusted Pakistan wrong?

 

[WMD]

I once visited the paki forum out of curiosity.
they are saying that a blk 3 version of jf-17 is on the making which is better than F-22.

 

[gokussj9]

I once visited the paki forum out of curiosity.
they are saying that a blk 3 version of jf-17 is on the making which is better than F-22.

No need of going to blk 3, even blk 1 can shoot down F22.

Hillarious fan video: F-22 Raptor shot by Jf-17 Thunder - YouTube

 

[Shirman]

No need of going to blk 3, even blk 1 can shoot down F22.

Hillarious fan video: F-22 Raptor shot by Jf-17 Thunder - YouTube

I desperately need to make a similar video of me kissing Hina rabbani Khar (on her cheeks) com on guys if JF-17 Thunder can thunder on raptor why don't i make a video on same principles............

 

[farhan_9909]

quit strange that numbers of 1965 even through war was started by Pakistan with same guys didnt save Pakistan from Breaking up in 1971.
Kargil war had one of the planes has technical problem pilot bail out other pilot who gone to save their was hit by SAM fired by those who has occupied kargil heights.

BTW have you seen this pic

Lol indian posting from IAF side against PAF?

can you post a similar

Better post something from indian navy which always had edge over PN.thanks to its superior equipments only

 

[sayareakd]

any one can shoot aircraft with aircraft or with SAM, check this out.

A Pakistani OH-13 Bell Helicopter which was used by the GOC 15 Div, Pak Army. This Chopper was knocked down by Tanks of the 17 Poona Horse Regiment outside Phillora on Sept 12th, killing the General and the Pilot. The Chopper was recovered by 1 Armd Division as a Trophy

tank hitting helicopter Poona Horse Regiment

 

[farhan_9909]

jft with ld10

 

[farhan_9909]

JFT with redesigned Diamond shape nose and fixed IFR.not sure whether JFT 2 or JFT 3(2016-17)

inside PAC

AIRCRAFT MANUFACTURING FACTORY on Vimeo

 

[farhan_9909]

Avionics production factory

[video=vimeo;65576469]http://vimeo.com/65576469[/video]

 

[sayareakd]

Last time you guys were making 40% of airframe, have you reached 60%?

Must say shing new machine, but not shown assamblying jf17. Btw if block 3 in 2016-17, and one block every year how much time will it take to be made invisible fighter.

 

[ersakthivel]

sorry the info was wrong

Hi farhan , in the same way your info about DSI and LREX converting JF-17 into RSS fighter is also wrong.

looking at the small wings , it follows the old philosophy of tree top flying for low level dumb bombing and it can't pull of agile maneuvers at high alt in high speeds which is needed in a true air superiority fighter of the modern world.


See this is always going to happen with all chinese fighters. Not a single one of them is original in design all improved copies of obsolete bygone era airframes with no use for the future..

 

[ersakthivel]

Interview: Air Commodore Khalid Mehmood, Deputy Chief Project Director, JF-17 Programme, Pakistan Air Force


Author:Tomislav Mesaric, Zagreb


Last posted:2013-03-21



In Pakistan the JF-17 combat aircraft programme, conducted as a joint venture with China, is a matter of national pride, with the aircraft on track to become the backbone of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) for decades to come.

"Two years ago we had only one JF-17 Squadron with 20 aircraft, but now we have two," said Air Commodore Khalid Mehmood, who was posted to become the programme's deputy director when the aircraft was still on the drawing board.

"Both squadrons are completely operational, while one of the two squadrons has two roles: conversion and operational training. We are about to raise the third squadron, but we still haven't decided which one that will be," said Air Cdre Khalid. "Around 40 JF-17s are flying at the moment, with the last few from Block I in the final stages of assembly.

"Production started with a small batch of aircraft we used for maturity of the production processes and for the assessment of operational capability and fine tuning of the aircraft," he said. "Based on that and the capability enhancements we introduced in the Block I, we will start with production of Block II. The difference will mostly be in capabilities, production technologies, avionics and some maintenance facilitation for the ground crew.

"As far as manufacturing tempo is concerned," noted the air commodore, "we are matching the retirement tempo of the air force's older types, regulating the induction of JF-17s according to the air force's demands."

Regarding the JF-17's operational capabilities, IHS Jane's understands that the PAF has the necessary sources codes to integrate weapons onto the aircraft. Air Cdre Khalid confirmed that the PAF has the capability for weapons integration, stating: "We can buy a weapon on the free market and integrate it on the JF-17 on our own and in-country. We have a team of flight test engineers and pilots that form the flight test group as a separate unit."

When the JF-17 first entered service it only flew with PL-5EII within-visual-range air-to-air missiles (AAMs) and fuel tanks, but the aircraft is now flying with SD-10 beyond-visual-range AAMs, C-802A anti-ship missiles, an electronic warfare pod and several types of general-purpose and precision-guided bombs. "We are using a combination of weapons of different origins," the air commodore noted.

When it comes to the maintenance the PAF has operational (O), intermediate (I) and depot (D) levels, just like in the West. "Since the JF-17 is a new aircraft we haven't performed any D-level maintenance on it yet, but we are in a process of establishing a component D-level capability," he said.

Regarding the JF-17's RD-93 powerplant, Air Cdre Khalid vouched for it being a very robust engine. "We have flown it for 7,000 hours without a problem," he said.

While the Chinese are reportedly working on a replacement powerplant for the JF-17, the PAF seems happy that solid agreements are in place between the Chinese and original Russian designers of the RD-93 to guarantee the supply of enough engines for its needs.

At the moment the JF-17 is already qualified for quick-reaction alert duty. "We have IFF on board, so we can go straight up and shoot at the enemy," said Air Cdre Khalid. In standard configuration the JF-17 carries two PL-5EII missiles, two SD-10 missiles and two or three fuel tanks. "The aircraft could have the capability to carry four SD-10 missiles," he noted, "but we decided to pursue the present configuration. The digital weapon interface is on all hard points, which gives us a lot of flexibility for weapons carriage."

So far the JF-17 has not seen real combat, but the type has participated in a number of exercises. "We have very good experience in dissimilar combat against different types of aircraft in multi-bogey environments," said the air commodore.

During air combat manoeuvres with the People's Liberation Army Air Force, for example, PAF JF-17s were pitched against Chinese Su-27s in a number of scenarios and reportedly achieved favourable results.

With regard to flight training, Air Cdre Khalid said the JF-17 is "very easy to fly - even easier than the F-16 - so pilot training is not heavily dependent upon a two-seat version. We designed it with the concept that we will have a good simulator. The Chinese have extensive experience with simulators, so we decided to go with them. However, if some customer wants the two-seat version, plans for production are at a very advanced stage.

"For international sales we have joint sales and marketing with our Chinese friends. It doesn't necessarily mean we all have to sit together on every meeting, but the Chinese side will always know what we are negotiating and we will always know what they are negotiating," noted the air commodore, adding that he saw co-operation on the programme between the two countries as being "exemplary".

"The first thing the new customer has to do is to decide which configuration of the aircraft they want," said Air Cdre Khalid. "The JF-17 is produced in Pakistan Aeronautical Complex in Kamra, so we can provide everything from manufacturing to documentation and even help with the induction of the aircraft into operational service."

Air Commodore Khalid Mehmood, JF-17 Programme Deputy Chief Project Director, Pakistan Air Force (PAF)

JDW

That says something about the quality of Chinese made SU-27 clones than the effectiveness of JF-17. So now you have your confirmation why all chinese cheap copy of russian fighters are all junk level, so that they can easily be taken off with even JF-17!!!!!!!!!!

it means PAF is stronger than PLAF!!!!!!!!!!

Oh My God!!!!!!!!!!!

The chinese made russian version of RD-93 is robust????????

Ask the HAL guys about the reliability of RD-93.

With such high thrust to weight ratio why are the pilots of Su-27 busting JF-17 still afraid to do a complete vertical loop?

Answer , please.

 

[farhan_9909]

Last time you guys were making 40% of airframe, have you reached 60%?

Must say shing new machine, but not shown assamblying jf17. Btw if block 3 in 2016-17, and one block every year how much time will it take to be made invisible fighter.

do you by chance work as a comedian in bollywood?

and yes pac has rights of manufacturing upto 58% of airframe..i hope you do know what jv means

 

[sayareakd]

do you by chance work as a comedian in bollywood?

and yes pac has rights of manufacturing upto 58% of airframe..i hope you do know what jv means

no idea about JV.

Nope they dont want me, they say i am too expensive.

any way back to the topic, Any pic of JF 17 firing missiles and other weapons ?