JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

[farhan_9909]

47 were delivered by nov 2012 and the rest of 3 must be also delivered by now though deeadline was december 2012

the rest must be getting ready to enter into the 3rd squardron officially.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

from the above Chines SU 27 is useless against Junk fighter and same is the case with F16.

Looks like PAF has got only 40 capable aircrafts .

 

[gokussj9]

Dude that's a propagandu video by an illiterate Paki. Don't
take it seriously.

 

[Rahul Singh]

In Vietnam a MIG 17 was shot down by two A-7 Skyraiders and a Mig-19 had shot down F-4 phantom ..............its all about missing or losing chances and particular situation. And for case much inferior fighter called GNat was nicknamed Saber Slayer wonder why?

 

[farhan_9909]

In Vietnam a MIG 17 was shot down by two A-7 Skyraiders and a Mig-19 had shot down F-4 phantom ..............its all about missing or losing chances and particular situation. And for case much inferior fighter called GNat was nicknamed Saber Slayer wonder why?

yess i know because of hindustani propaganda

seems like you guys take your govt words as the words of your holy books

which 1 is superior?

Also remember that PAF is the only airforce in the world rated for shooting down a 3rd gen fighter with 2nd gen fighter in south asia or may be in asia

Get your facts right and dont believe in every bit your govt tells you to fool you guys

Gnat introduced in 1959
while f-86 sabre in 1949

clearly a 1 decade difference.

Sabre even though more than a decade older and almost useless in 1971 still had a better kill rate than sabre.

i just dont know how do you guys named it sabre slayer when only 2-3 of them were shot down by gnat meanwhile closer to 10 by sabre.

 

[sorcerer]

yess i know because of hindustani propaganda

seems like you guys take your govt words as the words of your holy books
.

Yes,we have a Govt. a functional one that is.

Also remember that PAF is the only airforce in the world rated for shooting down a 3rd gen fighter with 2nd gen fighter in south asia or may be in asia

Hard to digest..Can you provide some source?

Sabre even though more than a decade older and almost useless in 1971 still had a better kill rate than sabre.

Contradicting yourself and confusing yourself.

 

[farhan_9909]

my mistake i meant better kill rate than gnat.

sorry i cant provide a source.either find it yourself or dont believe

good to hear that you have a functional govt though it seem like is controlled by BJP private army RSS

 

[sorcerer]

my mistake i meant better kill rate than gnat.

sorry i cant provide a source.either find it yourself or dont believe

good to hear that you have a functional govt though it seem like is controlled by BJP private army RSS

"
I guessed as much.I will look for THE SOURCE in some "The cinema of Pakistan " movies.

so much for your understanding about Indian politics.

 

[Rahul Singh]

yess i know because of hindustani propaganda

seems like you guys take your govt words as the words of your holy books

which 1 is superior?

Also remember that PAF is the only airforce in the world rated for shooting down a 3rd gen fighter with 2nd gen fighter in south asia or may be in asia

Get your facts right and dont believe in every bit your govt tells you to fool you guys

Gnat introduced in 1959
while f-86 sabre in 1949

clearly a 1 decade difference.

Sabre even though more than a decade older and almost useless in 1971 still had a better kill rate than sabre.

i just dont know how do you guys named it sabre slayer when only 2-3 of them were shot down by gnat meanwhile closer to 10 by sabre.

We know what good out government is and how reliable you gas bags are.

One example, PA once said Men died in Kargil are not pakistani soldiers and they have not intruded and now Mushrashass (respectfully retd. Gen Musharraf and ex president Pakistan) says he himself visited bunker on other side of LoC.

Enough for reliability of your services's words claims and hot gas ballooning or need more.

 

[farhan_9909]

Viktor Nikolayevich Bondarev Commander-in-Chief, Russian Federation Air Force Inside JFT

ISLAMABAD: a four-member delegation led by Lieutenant General Viktor Nikolayevich Bondarev Commander-in-Chief, Russian Federation Air Force, visited Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra on Tuesday.
The Russian Federation Air Chief is on a four day visit to Pakistan Air Force on the invitation of Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt, Chief of the Air Staff.
The delegation was given a comprehensive briefing on the working of Pakistan Aeronautical Complex Board and its factories.
The delegation also visited various manufacturing and over hauling facilities of the aeronautical complex.
The visiting dignitaries took keen interest in the production capability of the JF-17 Co-production Project.
Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra has grown from strength to strength over the years. Being the leading Aviation Industry it has placed Pakistan amongst the elite group of countries that manufacture fighter aircraft.
Earlier, on their arrival, the delegation was received by Air Commodore Syed Nadeem Haider Jafri, acting Chairman Pakistan Aeronautical Complex Board, Kamra.-DNA

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Dude that's a propagandu video by an illiterate Paki. Don't
take it seriously.

Let's assume for sake of argument PAF had more kills and air superiority in the East in 1971. It is interesting to me that air superiority did not win the war for Pakistan.

 

[Rahul Singh]

Let's assume for sake of argument PAF had more kills and air superiority in the East in 1971. It is interesting to me that air superiority did not win the war for Pakistan.

They even had numerical superiority. They say 1 muslim = 10 hindus so 9000 pakistani soldiers ( not 90000) surrendered to 3000 Indian soldiers.

Don't think just enjoy numbers and don't forget Lahori logic.

 

[sorcerer]

Let's assume for sake of argument PAF had more kills and air superiority in the East in 1971. It is interesting to me that air superiority did not win the war for Pakistan.

Going by their psych.. Its about "numbers" .
The dynamics of war does not apply to them, just like basic physics not applying to many of their war toys.
I think they got this "number" allergy from China.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

In Vietnam a MIG 17 was shot down by two A-7 Skyraiders and a Mig-19 had shot down F-4 phantom ..............its all about missing or losing chances and particular situation. And for case much inferior fighter called GNat was nicknamed Saber Slayer wonder why?

Nicknames aren't numbers. What were the numbers in 1971? (Hint: Chuck Yeager reported them. )

 

[drkrn]

Let's assume for sake of argument PAF had more kills and air superiority in the East in 1971. It is interesting to me that air superiority did not win the war for Pakistan.

its because they followed Israelis by knocking down many Indian aircraft while they are still on ground -Preemptive air strikes
2.they had better,superior hardware and training,and American back door support need not be mention

 

[W.G.Ewald]

its because they followed Israelis by knocking down many Indian aircraft while they are still on ground -Preemptive air strikes
2.they had better,superior hardware and training,and American back door support need not be mention

Funny. The IAF pilot who shot up Yeager's Beechcraft on the ground is a hero, but PAF pilots cheated by doing the same to IAF aircraft?

How I crossed swords with Chuck Yeager - Admiral Arun Prakash [www.bharat-rakshak.com]

Arun Prakash brags about how he "crossed swords with Chuck Yeager." If the "sword crossing" had been aloft, the story might have been much different.

 

[Rahul Singh]

Nicknames aren't numbers. What were the numbers in 1971? (Hint: Chuck Yeager reported them. )

My bad.... Bharat Rakshak has some detail but actual numbers you never know. What matters is we used our available hardwere and achieved set objective which world knows what.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

even a mig-21 bison is enough for this piece of shit called jf-17.it doesn't even deserve to fight against su-30mk1 or mig 29 in iaf.

 

[farhan_9909]

i have always blamed indian media especially the RSS license given channel such as india tv for the brainwashing of youth

A reality check


Air to air war between india and pakistan

The IAF was flying large numbers of Hawker Hunter, Indian-manufactured Folland Gnats, de Havilland Vampires, EE Canberra bombers and a squadron of MiG-21s. The PAF's fighter force comprised 102 F-86F Sabres and 12 F-104 Starfighters, along with 24 B-57 Canberra bombers. During the conflict the PAF was out-numbered by around 5:1

Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And as per the interview of ACM nur khan pakistan only had 1 squadron completely active

IAF be it any air to air involvement had atleast 5-8 times more number superiority..

aftermath was the kill ratio was atleast 5-8 time in favour of pakistan

please quit the indian media and BJP supplied text books and rather concentrate on some neutral claims

i do agree about our defeat in 71 because of our leaders.

Though Problem was

Bangladesh was

*thousand miles far from Pakistan
*Surrounded by india from all side,
*The only way to supply our troops was sea which again was blocked by indian navy
Bangladesh didnt had the military infra as the pakistan had.


anyway leaving the past..

the 2015-16 war will prove which 1 is superior..just hope that it doesnt get delayed further.

 

[Rahul Singh]

i have always blamed indian media especially the RSS license given channel such as india tv for the brainwashing of youth

Like you were, before Mushrass fart blew you away?