JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

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How many pieces per year will they produce?
 

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Shame that india hasn't produced a 3rd generation fighter not even an advanced trainer after license producing for more than 4 decades which Pakistan which lives more or less on aid has built such an industry with of course chinese help. But i'm still confident tejas even in its current configuration can beat the crap out of the bird.

Pakistan force has intended to procure 250+ aircraft.
 

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PM to be chief guest at roll out of JF-17 Thunder



ISLAMABAD: Pakistan will formally rejoice its joining the fighter aircraft manufacturers club on Monday on roll out of first multi-role state-of-the art aircraft being crafted with the help of evergreen friend China. Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani will be the chief guest at the rolling out of the bomber-cum-fighter plane which is to be held at the mother industry - Pakistan Aeronautical Complex - of JF-17 Thunder at Kamra.

This will kick start a new era in Pak-China relationship, and aviation industry, an official told APP here Sunday. Both China as well as PAF attach a lot of importance to this project which is materializing after hectic and laborious efforts, spanning over almost a decade, he said.

The PAC has generated all the capability to produce the aircraft locally for its onward delivery to PAF besides materializing purchase orders from abroad as export.

The JF-17 Thunder a new generation, light-weight, all weather, day/night multi-role fighter aircraft with glass cockpit, hands-on-throttle-and-stick (HOTAS) controls and efficient man-machine interface will ensure a minimal pilot workload.

The maximum speed of Mach 1.6 and a high thrust-to-weight ratio will enable it to perform well in an air defence role. An ability to carry short - as well as long-range air-to-air missiles, lends the aircraft a first shot capability of conventional as well as non-conventional arsenal.

In the surface attack role, a variety of weapons - conventional as well as precision-guided, a sophisticated avionics suite along with accurate weapon delivery system, ensure higher mission success rate.

An effective ECM suite will greatly enhance survivability of the platform. Its anticipated air-to-air refuelling capability will provide the JF-17 with more loiter time to safeguard the frontiers and the ability to deliver the required punch at distance. It will replace the ageing fleets of A-5s, F-7Ps and the Mirages in the PAF inventory thus fulfiling a multi-role task.

In addition to that the PAC would also be able to export its surplus production in the days to come as the aircraft has received acclaims from the user like PAF.

- Associated Press of Pakistan
 

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congrats to the pakistani members for the achievement. I hope we wl not engaged in qualitative analysis or comparisons....there are other threads here....
 

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Shame that india hasn't produced a 3rd generation fighter not even an advanced trainer after licence producing for more than 4 decades which pak which lives more or less on aid has built such an industry with of course chinese help. But i'm still confident tejas even in its current configuration can beat the crap out of the bird.

pak force has intended to procure 250+ aircraft.
they PAF says they can produce 10 fighters for year, but i have doubt and cant confirm it.
 

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Are they assembling from Knocked-down/Semi knocked down kits or are they building the whole thing on assembly lines? What are the components of the plane other than the air-frame (like MFDs, Ejector Seats) being built? Or acquired from China?
 

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PM to be chief guest at roll out of JF-17 Thunder


ISLAMABAD: Pakistan will formally rejoice its joining the fighter aircraft manufacturers club on Monday on roll out of first multi-role state-of-the art aircraft being crafted with the help of evergreen friend China. Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani will be the chief guest at the rolling out of the bomber-cum-fighter plane which is to be held at the mother industry - Pakistan Aeronautical Complex - of JF-17 Thunder at Kamra.
No doubt this a quantum leap in Pakistan's fighter jet producing capabilities:goodstuff:. But as of what I understand, Pakistan is currently only assembling this plane at PAC Kamra right? Or are they making the air-frames, avionics and other parts too in their facility?
 

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ASIA PACIFIC
Date Posted: 20-Nov-2009

Jane's Defence Weekly​


Pakistan unveils first domestically assembled JF-17

Farhan Bokhari JDW Correspondent - Islamabad


The first fully Pakistan-assembled JF-17 aircraft, built in collaboration in China, is scheduled to be formally unveiled on 23 November - almost two decades after Islamabad and Beijing agreed to jointly build a fighter.

According to officials from the Pakistan Air Force (PAF), up to 250 examples of the JF-17 (also known as the FC-1 or 'Thunder') will be inducted into the air force in the next six to eight years, giving the aircraft a key position as the main second-line fighter to replace older Chinese F-7 fighters and A-5 ground attack aircraft. The PAF's older French-built Mirage IIIs and Mirage Vs are also planned to be phased out.

The PAF currently operates 45 F-16A and B models, mostly aircraft sold by the US in the 1980s. Last month the first of 18 F-16C and D models, currently on order from the PAF, formally rolled out in the US.

In a related development in mid-November it was revealed that Pakistan had finally reached an understanding with China for Beijing to sell Pakistan at least 36 of its J-10 fighters. On 18 November a PAF official told Jane's that the technical negotiations for the J-10 were complete and that commercial negotiations for a final price "are in the concluding stage".

On 20 November a Pakistani government official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity told Jane's that the two JF-17 and J-10 programmes are now the "centrepiece of our strategy on the PAF's future development".

The JF-17, the unveiling of which was scheduled to take place at the PAF-run Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) north of Islamabad, joins the eight JF-17s built in China and delivered to the PAF in 2008.

Between December and June 2010 the PAF is understood to be looking to induct eight to 10 more JF-17s to form the PAF's first full squadron of the type.

Western observers of the PAF in Islamabad said the JF-17's launch will probably be followed by Pakistan seeking to test a variety of Chinese munitions and avionics to fit both the JF-17 and the J-10. These developments are expected to increase the PAF's reliance on China as the primary source of its military hardware.

"In the next few years, the Chinese influence on the PAF will deepen significantly," said one Western defence official. "While the PAF will still be quite keen to receive US equipment wherever possible, its reliance on China is bound to grow."

China and Pakistan first began work on a fighter in 1990 when the US imposed sanctions on the latter in relation to Islamabad's nuclear weapon programme.

After the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks brought Pakistan in from the cold as a US ally in the 'global war on terror', the US administration of former president George W Bush lifted restrictions on military sales to Islamabad and allowed the sale of new F-16s to Pakistan.

Since 2001 Pakistan has received 14 older F-16s, which were declared as excess defence articles (EDAs) by the US. Under Pakistan's status as a non-NATO US ally, it has the privilege of receiving EDAs free of cost, although it must pay for upgrades.

In addition to the new F-16s on order, Pakistan and the US are currently also negotiating for Islamabad to receive up to 15 additional older F-16s declared EDAs by the US Air Force.
 

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Pakistan unveils first domestically assembled JF-17

Farhan Bokhari JDW Correspondent - Islamabad

The first fully Pakistan-assembled JF-17 aircraft, built in collaboration in China, is scheduled to be formally unveiled on 23 November - almost two decades after Islamabad and Beijing agreed to jointly build a fighter.
Thanks emo_girl. This was what I was looking for. :)
 

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So, it is clear. It is assembled aircraft rather than totally manufactured in Pakistan.
 

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No doubt this a quantum leap in Pakistan's fighter jet producing capabilities:goodstuff:. But as of what I understand, Pakistan is currently only assembling this plane at PAC Kamra right? Or are they making the air-frames, avionics and other parts too in their facility?
This is the First which is been assembled in Pakistan & 80% of the airframe and HUD system is built in Pakistan

Most of the Details will be out Tomorrow
 

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ASIA PACIFIC
Date Posted: 20-Nov-2009

Jane's Defence Weekly​


Pakistan unveils first domestically assembled JF-17

Farhan Bokhari JDW Correspondent - Islamabad


The first fully Pakistan-assembled JF-17 aircraft, built in collaboration in China, is scheduled to be formally unveiled on 23 November - almost two decades after Islamabad and Beijing agreed to jointly build a fighter.
Yep, domestically assembled is the right word as of now. It will take atleast 2-3 years for Pakistan to build manufacturing facilities and get access to raw materials.
 

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Is this the first aircraft built/assembled in Pakistan? Did PAC Kamra assemble/build J-7s as well earlier?
 

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Nice pics there Emo_Girl.

Have the final specs been released ?
 

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Nice pics there Emo_Girl.

Have the final specs been released ?
the First 50 will be using the Variant of Griffo S-7 instead of KLJ-7, thats the only difference as far as i know


as i said most of the details will be out Tomorrow & i'll be the first one to post it here :)
 

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yeah but that Pak media source claims it as Made in Pak.
Of course, they will claim whatever they want for the sake of prestige but the ground realities are different. Pakistan doesn't have large enough Industrial base where they can actually manufacture an Aircraft from the scratch.
 

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Of course, they will claim whatever they want for the sake of prestige but the ground realities are different. Pakistan doesn't have large enough Industrial base where they can actually manufacture an Aircraft from the scratch.
Yes, and Pakistan due to its weaker economy (knowing that it cannot match India in conventional war) is concentrating on developing and increasing its non-conventional (read - nuclear) arsenal. As a result, we are not likely to see a developed aerospace industry in Pakistan anytime soon.
 

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