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Over 40℅ of ‘Made In China’ PAF junk fighter jF-17 blunder Grounded


Made In China JF-17 Grounded due to structural and technical Issues
Pakistani Airforce frontline fighters are facing critical issues, due to which 40℅ of JF-17 grounded. The PAC JF-17 Thunder, or CAC FC-1 Xiaolong, is a lightweight, single-engine, multi-role combat aircraft developed jointly by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation of China. Tailor-made to suit the needs of poor countries like Pakistan. Designed and developed by China the JF-17 are facing several issues to be 100℅ fits to fight and is operational.

One of the major issue faced by JF-17 fighter jets said to be cracked. Pakistan Airforce authorities have noticed several cracks formations in the lower fairing skin. This is said to be due to damage taken during high G manoeuvres. This is not the only issue plaguing the fighter.

All most 40℅ of JF-17 fighter jets have been grounded for a quick fix. But the issue is there is no quick fix available as of now as per Pakistani experts.

Another major issue is said to be the technical one. The JF-17 electronic systems and devices in the canopy are also malfunctioning I. the dual seater JF-17B. The critical error makes the co-pilot eject on its own. Endangering the pilot’s life. China has blamed Pakistani Airforce and its poor training for the issues as per some sources.

These are not the end, the saga of JF-17 issues even continues to get 40℅ of jets being grounded. Problems are also found with the fuselage, which are developing cracks as well. Reason said to be the high G pressure on the poorly designed structure.

There are cracks in the stake areas as well. The anchor breakages of the JF-17 jets are also facing similar issues due to low quality Made and Designed in China. Moreover, the report also brings to the notice of overweight devices used with the radar.

Source Times Now, Wikipedia, Open Source.


 

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Over 40℅ of ‘Made In China’ PAF junk fighter jF-17 blunder Grounded


Made In China JF-17 Grounded due to structural and technical Issues
Pakistani Airforce frontline fighters are facing critical issues, due to which 40℅ of JF-17 grounded. The PAC JF-17 Thunder, or CAC FC-1 Xiaolong, is a lightweight, single-engine, multi-role combat aircraft developed jointly by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation of China. Tailor-made to suit the needs of poor countries like Pakistan. Designed and developed by China the JF-17 are facing several issues to be 100℅ fits to fight and is operational.

One of the major issue faced by JF-17 fighter jets said to be cracked. Pakistan Airforce authorities have noticed several cracks formations in the lower fairing skin. This is said to be due to damage taken during high G manoeuvres. This is not the only issue plaguing the fighter.

All most 40℅ of JF-17 fighter jets have been grounded for a quick fix. But the issue is there is no quick fix available as of now as per Pakistani experts.

Another major issue is said to be the technical one. The JF-17 electronic systems and devices in the canopy are also malfunctioning I. the dual seater JF-17B. The critical error makes the co-pilot eject on its own. Endangering the pilot’s life. China has blamed Pakistani Airforce and its poor training for the issues as per some sources.

These are not the end, the saga of JF-17 issues even continues to get 40℅ of jets being grounded. Problems are also found with the fuselage, which are developing cracks as well. Reason said to be the high G pressure on the poorly designed structure.

There are cracks in the stake areas as well. The anchor breakages of the JF-17 jets are also facing similar issues due to low quality Made and Designed in China. Moreover, the report also brings to the notice of overweight devices used with the radar.

Source Times Now, Wikipedia, Open Source.


ejection seat issue reminds me of the soviet jump jet yak 38 which had the same issue of ejection seat of pilot ejecting on its own.but that was when the plane recognized a sudden drop in altitude thinking the engine had failed as a safety measure but this jf -17 issue is somewhat more serious and wont be able to be fixed easily.cracks formation is also serious i presume.can anyone here tell me how bad are cracks forming on airframe in rendering the aircraft unusable or is it a quick fix.
 

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Over 40℅ of ‘Made In China’ PAF junk fighter jF-17 blunder Grounded


Made In China JF-17 Grounded due to structural and technical Issues
Pakistani Airforce frontline fighters are facing critical issues, due to which 40℅ of JF-17 grounded. The PAC JF-17 Thunder, or CAC FC-1 Xiaolong, is a lightweight, single-engine, multi-role combat aircraft developed jointly by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation of China. Tailor-made to suit the needs of poor countries like Pakistan. Designed and developed by China the JF-17 are facing several issues to be 100℅ fits to fight and is operational.

One of the major issue faced by JF-17 fighter jets said to be cracked. Pakistan Airforce authorities have noticed several cracks formations in the lower fairing skin. This is said to be due to damage taken during high G manoeuvres. This is not the only issue plaguing the fighter.

All most 40℅ of JF-17 fighter jets have been grounded for a quick fix. But the issue is there is no quick fix available as of now as per Pakistani experts.

Another major issue is said to be the technical one. The JF-17 electronic systems and devices in the canopy are also malfunctioning I. the dual seater JF-17B. The critical error makes the co-pilot eject on its own. Endangering the pilot’s life. China has blamed Pakistani Airforce and its poor training for the issues as per some sources.

These are not the end, the saga of JF-17 issues even continues to get 40℅ of jets being grounded. Problems are also found with the fuselage, which are developing cracks as well. Reason said to be the high G pressure on the poorly designed structure.

There are cracks in the stake areas as well. The anchor breakages of the JF-17 jets are also facing similar issues due to low quality Made and Designed in China. Moreover, the report also brings to the notice of overweight devices used with the radar.

Source Times Now, Wikipedia, Open Source.


10th jeneration Ruhani tayraa doesn't have self healing system.
 

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This is a good lesson for all those nations who were rushing to buy Chinese weapons. These are cheap but worthless.

Even the Chinese army which has all locally made and copied & reverse engineered weapons are wondering about their reliability. No wonder, in last 40 years Chinese have intimidated but not fought a war with anybody. They chose India for firefight this year but lost their strategic position after their initial surprise successes.

Very soon the West who uses a lot of Chinese made intermediate parts in their equipment and machinery will come to the same conclusion that quality of Chinese parts is below par. They still use them because a much bigger profits are generated with placing orders in China. This concept will keep driving them until breakdown start to cost huge sums of money in repairs.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars Paxtanis only defence here is some people there is speaking in Urdu at KPK. While desperately ignoring the striking similarities of the burning debris with that of PAF's newest junk JF-17B, not to forget the eerie silence of.
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@NeXoft007.
 

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This is a good lesson for all those nations who were rushing to buy Chinese weapons. These are cheap but worthless.

Even the Chinese army which has all locally made and copied & reverse engineered weapons are wondering about their reliability. No wonder, in last 40 years Chinese have intimidated but not fought a war with anybody. They chose India for firefight this year but lost their strategic position after their initial surprise successes.

Very soon the West who uses a lot of Chinese made intermediate parts in their equipment and machinery will come to the same conclusion that quality of Chinese parts is below par. They still use them because a much bigger profits are generated with placing orders in China. This concept will keep driving them until breakdown start to cost huge sums of money in repairs.
People buy chink weapons and platforms because they are cheap.
No other reason.
You get what you pay for.
For e.g, American/Western platforms are like a light saber from star wars.
Russian platforms are like a huge wootz steel sword.
Chinese platforms are like a rusty, crumbling fruit knife.
 

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If you hear this video carefully

At 0::46,
Person A. asked touch karte hi itna kya hua(At just touching the ground what happened)?
Person B. replies "pehle hi ag(fire) lagi hui thi"(It was already on fire)
Person C at 0:49-53, clearly says
"han ji Take off kiy tab se hi ag(fire) lagi hai.(it was on fire as soon as it took off)
"Take off karte sath hi ag(fire) lagi hai"

At 0:56: Engine ko dekhe to ag(fire) lagi hai"
At 1:06:
Question: Kitne bande honge(How many guys are there)?
Answer: Piche(backside) do hai(behind there are two guys).


At 1:25: Police: Bhay shab mana kiya hai, video banane ke liye. CHO shab ne mana kiya hai.

At 1::44,
Person A. asked touch karte hi itna kya hua(At just touching the ground what happened)?
Person B. replies "pehle hi ag(fire) lagi hui thi"(It was already on fire)
Person C at 0:49-53, clearly says
"han ji Take off ke chalte hi ag(fire) lagi hai.(it was on fire as soon as it took off)
"Take off karte sath hi ag(fire) lagi hai"
At 1:55: Engines ko dekhe to ag(fire) lagi hai"

At 2:04:
Question: Kitne bande honge(How many guys are there)?
Answer: Piche(backside) do hai(behind there are two guys).

At 2:22: Police: Bhay shab mana kiya hai video banane ke liye. CHO shab ne mana kiya hai






Ya'll Nibbiars Paxtanis only defence here is some people there is speaking in Urdu at KPK. While desperately ignoring the striking similarities of the burning debris with that of PAF's newest junk JF-17B, not to forget the eerie silence of.
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Bdw chineese airframe .... Russian engine
Makes jf17 worst .....
Paf was desperate to replace it's old fighter s ....so they inducted it hurriedly.... without proper testing.....
When they inducted jf17 it didn't have ifr.....it didn't have a twin seater to train it's pilot s....it didn't have bvr capability ....
Though they boast about jf17 but its a fact that they are struggling with jf17

Again we scold iaf hal for a lots of testing ...but with Tejas iaf won't face those issues which iaf is facing now

Again hal is slow in production but maintaining the quality......

I am writing all this because of


""The French government’s decision not to upgrade the Mirage III and Mirage 5 fighter jets could severely impact the Pakistan Air Force which has had about 150 Mirage fighter jets manufactured by the French firm Dassault Aviation. Only half of them, however, are serviceable""



If jf 17 is a capable one them why paf is running to France for upgrading mirage 3/5


Jf17 can replace f7 but not f16 or mirage
 

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Bdw chineese airframe .... Russian engine
Makes jf17 worst .....
Paf was desperate to replace it's old fighter s ....so they inducted it hurriedly.... without proper testing.....
When they inducted jf17 it didn't have ifr.....it didn't have a twin seater to train it's pilot s....it didn't have bvr capability ....
Though they boast about jf17 but its a fact that they are struggling with jf17

Again we scold iaf hal for a lots of testing ...but with Tejas iaf won't face those issues which iaf is facing now

Again hal is slow in production but maintaining the quality......

I am writing all this because of


""The French government’s decision not to upgrade the Mirage III and Mirage 5 fighter jets could severely impact the Pakistan Air Force which has had about 150 Mirage fighter jets manufactured by the French firm Dassault Aviation. Only half of them, however, are serviceable""



If jf 17 is a capable one them why paf is running to France for upgrading mirage 3/5


Jf17 can replace f7 but not f16 or mirage
Sry ... internet was slow...so the post repeated itself...
Mod please delete
 

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Bdw chineese airframe .... Russian engine
Makes jf17 worst .....
Paf was desperate to replace it's old fighter s ....so they inducted it hurriedly.... without proper testing.....
When they inducted jf17 it didn't have ifr.....it didn't have a twin seater to train it's pilot s....it didn't have bvr capability ....
Though they boast about jf17 but its a fact that they are struggling with jf17

Again we scold iaf hal for a lots of testing ...but with Tejas iaf won't face those issues which iaf is facing now

Again hal is slow in production but maintaining the quality......

I am writing all this because of


""The French government’s decision not to upgrade the Mirage III and Mirage 5 fighter jets could severely impact the Pakistan Air Force which has had about 150 Mirage fighter jets manufactured by the French firm Dassault Aviation. Only half of them, however, are serviceable""



If jf 17 is a capable one them why paf is running to France for upgrading mirage 3/5


Jf17 can replace f7 but not f16 or mirage
News about france refusing to upgrade Mirages and Agosta has been reported in Indian media only. No french sources exist.
 

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Argentina Air Force considering to purchase Pakistan's JF-17 Thunder jets
Coming as a major development for Pakistan's defense industry is that another country has expressed interest in purchasing the JF-17 Thunder fighter jets.

The JF-17 Thunder, a joint venture between Pakistan and China, has gained considerable popularity. According to the Russian media outlet topwar.ru, Argentina is seriously considering purchasing JF-17 Thunder.

It has been reported that due to the unavailability of financial resources, the military authorities of Argentina want to buy Pakistan-made JF-17 Thunder instead of buying expensive fighter jets from Britain.

It may be recalled that earlier this year, it was reported that Pakistan has taken practical steps to further develop its defense industry in partnership with China. Pakistan has found four buyers of JF-17 Thunder fighter jets manufactured in collaboration with China.

It has been reported that Nigeria and Myanmar have agreed to buy JF-17 Thunder aircraft from Pakistan. Malaysia, Azerbaijan, Egypt and some other countries are also trying to reach an early agreement on the purchase of JF-17 Thunder fighter jets. While Pakistan is also trying to persuade many more countries to buy JF-17 Thunder.

Demand for JF-17 Thunder fighter jets has risen sharply since Pakistan shot down Indian fighter jets. The sale of JF-17 Thunder fighter jets in the international market will earn Pakistan a lot of foreign exchange.
 

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Argentina Air Force considering to purchase Pakistan's JF-17 Thunder jets
Coming as a major development for Pakistan's defense industry is that another country has expressed interest in purchasing the JF-17 Thunder fighter jets.

The JF-17 Thunder, a joint venture between Pakistan and China, has gained considerable popularity. According to the Russian media outlet topwar.ru, Argentina is seriously considering purchasing JF-17 Thunder.

It has been reported that due to the unavailability of financial resources, the military authorities of Argentina want to buy Pakistan-made JF-17 Thunder instead of buying expensive fighter jets from Britain.

It may be recalled that earlier this year, it was reported that Pakistan has taken practical steps to further develop its defense industry in partnership with China. Pakistan has found four buyers of JF-17 Thunder fighter jets manufactured in collaboration with China.

It has been reported that Nigeria and Myanmar have agreed to buy JF-17 Thunder aircraft from Pakistan. Malaysia, Azerbaijan, Egypt and some other countries are also trying to reach an early agreement on the purchase of JF-17 Thunder fighter jets. While Pakistan is also trying to persuade many more countries to buy JF-17 Thunder.

Demand for JF-17 Thunder fighter jets has risen sharply since Pakistan shot down Indian fighter jets. The sale of JF-17 Thunder fighter jets in the international market will earn Pakistan a lot of foreign exchange.
Ohh still people believe that jf17 shot down the mig21 bis.....so they are buying jf17
In this logic countries should buy mig21 bis...as it shot down a f16
 

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Argentina Air Force considering to purchase Pakistan's JF-17 Thunder jets
Coming as a major development for Pakistan's defense industry is that another country has expressed interest in purchasing the JF-17 Thunder fighter jets.

The JF-17 Thunder, a joint venture between Pakistan and China, has gained considerable popularity. According to the Russian media outlet topwar.ru, Argentina is seriously considering purchasing JF-17 Thunder.

It has been reported that due to the unavailability of financial resources, the military authorities of Argentina want to buy Pakistan-made JF-17 Thunder instead of buying expensive fighter jets from Britain.

It may be recalled that earlier this year, it was reported that Pakistan has taken practical steps to further develop its defense industry in partnership with China. Pakistan has found four buyers of JF-17 Thunder fighter jets manufactured in collaboration with China.

It has been reported that Nigeria and Myanmar have agreed to buy JF-17 Thunder aircraft from Pakistan. Malaysia, Azerbaijan, Egypt and some other countries are also trying to reach an early agreement on the purchase of JF-17 Thunder fighter jets. While Pakistan is also trying to persuade many more countries to buy JF-17 Thunder.

Demand for JF-17 Thunder fighter jets has risen sharply since Pakistan shot down Indian fighter jets. The sale of JF-17 Thunder fighter jets in the international market will earn Pakistan a lot of foreign exchange.
It's pakistani media and they say all bullshit.
No need to believe it.
 

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Argentina Air Force considering to purchase Pakistan's JF-17 Thunder jets
Coming as a major development for Pakistan's defense industry is that another country has expressed interest in purchasing the JF-17 Thunder fighter jets.

The JF-17 Thunder, a joint venture between Pakistan and China, has gained considerable popularity. According to the Russian media outlet topwar.ru, Argentina is seriously considering purchasing JF-17 Thunder.

It has been reported that due to the unavailability of financial resources, the military authorities of Argentina want to buy Pakistan-made JF-17 Thunder instead of buying expensive fighter jets from Britain.

It may be recalled that earlier this year, it was reported that Pakistan has taken practical steps to further develop its defense industry in partnership with China. Pakistan has found four buyers of JF-17 Thunder fighter jets manufactured in collaboration with China.

It has been reported that Nigeria and Myanmar have agreed to buy JF-17 Thunder aircraft from Pakistan. Malaysia, Azerbaijan, Egypt and some other countries are also trying to reach an early agreement on the purchase of JF-17 Thunder fighter jets. While Pakistan is also trying to persuade many more countries to buy JF-17 Thunder.

Demand for JF-17 Thunder fighter jets has risen sharply since Pakistan shot down Indian fighter jets. The sale of JF-17 Thunder fighter jets in the international market will earn Pakistan a lot of foreign exchange.
They consider it since it was one of the options they had in recent years, we know we’re dealing with a plane that’s not really great, but there are not a lot of options available that don’t have UK made parts
 

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I bought a Chinese phone 4 gb ram 256 gb rom ...at 10k
And thought I am the wiser...as my friend a lg phone with same specification at 50k
 

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Jf17 with 6 a2a missiles.....
Bdw what I know that this is not certified for that ......
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