JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

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JF-17 / FC-1 prototype no. 06 spotted with a unique pod ... IMO looks like some sort of camera pod.



 

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Definitely not a targeting pod. That would have a ball shaped head for the gimbal to rotate. It could be a pathetic attempt to give it an IRST function.

Very old image, dont know why it was rehashed.
Not an ISRT, nor LDTP, just a camera pod and this aircraft served as the chase plane for one of the prototypes of j-20.



The other image was blk 2 being tested with LKF-601 AESA. Hers is another

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Very old image, dont know why it was rehashed.
Not an ISRT, nor LDTP, just a camera pod and this aircraft served as the chase plane for one of the prototypes of j-20.



The other image was blk 2 being tested with LKF-601 AESA. Hers is another

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Specs? & please provide credible link
 

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'Chengdu' vs ' AVIC' ?...LOL...does that idiot know anything? . I am a little bit surprised that such a joker could keep bullshiting , lying all the time in the past decade.

http://cac.avic.com/web/

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LOL...I know the famous idiot/troll of this forum should be ignored...
but an exception is possible sometimes..

J20 PT2001 and the chasing plane(FC-1 PT06) ...but it's not the maiden flight of J20



the maiden flight of FC-31 project... the Chasing plane was a J-11BS with the same Camera Recording pod

 
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'Chengdu' vs ' AVIC' ?...LOL...does that idiot know anything? . I am a little bit surprised that such a joker could keep bullshiting , lying all the time in the past decade.
Asking a question is not BSing, you still have not answered why an experimental AVIC aircraft is part of a Chengdu test programme.

LOL...I know the famous idiot/troll of this forum should be ignored...
but an exception is possible sometimes..
The only one getting trolled is Pakistan thinking they have a new pod for their Junk Fighter. I guess if they want to use it as a chase plane that is all it is good for.
 

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Production numbers (11’2019) - 116
( ) - on order
Block 1- 50
Block 2- 62
Block B- 4 +(22)
Block 3- (50)
Projected production-
2019- 8 BlkB
2020- 14 BlkB + 2 Blk3
2021- 4 BlkB + 12 Blk3
202(2,3,4)- 12 Blk3
 
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what is 'Chengdu'? What is 'AVIC'?....LOL...



what the most famous idiot of this forum wants is just 'trolling'...nothing more...we won't see any logic in that idiot's funny statements...
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Myanmar Air Force... JF-17M carrying C-802AKG training missile and SD-10A missile

 

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what is 'Chengdu'? What is 'AVIC'?....LOL...
Everything is owned by CCP but they were created as two separate entities to foster competition. It is the same as Mikoyan and Sukhoi but both are owned by JSC. If they merge then all innovation will be lost as they don't have anyone else to compete with. It is not like China can offer competitive products on the global market, only poor countries buy them because they are half the price of the actually competitive products that demand high prices. China must create competition amongst itself or it will stagnate and die.
 

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To those asking, is Jf17 Blk3 out already? Well, atleast not as operational unit. We will definitely officially see Jf17-B as part of PAF within weeks, and we will also see Jf17-B flying during 23rd March. But it's bit early to expect induction of Blk3 in PAF arsenal.
 

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Myanmar's JF-17..........................................
 

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JF-17 planned production for Block-3 and Bravos.:

2019: Bravo x8
2020: Block-III x2 / Bravo x14
2021: Block-III x12 / Bravo x4
2022: Block-III x12
2023: Block-III x12
2024: Block-III x12
 

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According to recent media reports, at present, Pakistan Air Force's JF17 fighter has been replaced with the latest improved version of JF17 3. Compared with the previous JF17 1 and JF17 2, JF17 3 has been replaced with a more powerful klj-7a airborne active phased array radar. The phased array radar has a detection range of 170 km to air and 200-220 km to sea. It can track 15 targets at the same time and guide 4 missiles at the same time. At the same time, the radar also has the ability to guide the thunderbolt-15 medium range air-to-air missile. The thunderbolt-15 with a range of more than 150 kilometers and a maximum range of 200 kilometers, in combination with the klj-7a phased array radar, represents that the JF17 fighter has an absolute over the horizon air combat capability.

At present, the detection range of F-16C / dblock60 airborne radar is 140 km, that of f-15k airborne radar is 160 km-180 km, that of European Typhoon fighter ecr-90 airborne radar is only 160 km, that of klj-7a radar on JF17 block 3 is 170 km, which is very far, at least compared with that of Pakistan Air force as the absolute main American F-16 fighter The detection distance of airborne radar is far. However, Pakistan's air force is satisfied with the improvement of JF17 block3. The air force in India next door will cry. We need to know that the effective detection distance of n-001we radar on the most advanced su-30mk equipped in India is only about 100km, nearly twice the difference.
Although India also purchased a batch of Rafale fighters from France to equip the air force, the detection distance of rbe-2-aa active phased array radar on the Rafale fighters purchased by India is only about 140 kilometers, which is also inferior to the airborne radar performance of JF17 block 3. At the same time, the weapons India equipped for these Rafale radars are the "Mika" air-to-air missile developed by France in 1997, although The missile is also known as the medium range air-to-air missile, but its maximum range is only 45 kilometers, which can not be compared with the thunderbolt-15 air-to-air missile. Such a huge gap for India will only cause the Indian air force to fall into a disadvantage when confronting the Pakistan Air Force, and Pakistan can completely find the target and fire before the Indian fighters.
At the same time, on the basis of the old type of JF17, JF17 block3 has further strengthened the stealth performance of the fighters. Although the modified JF17 fighters can not achieve the same excellent radar stealth as the four generations of fighters, it also greatly reduces its reflection area on the radar, which will make the existing gap between the Rafale fighters and JF17 be further widened. At the same time, the price of these Rafale fighters is also increased It's very expensive. The Indian Air Force paid nearly 130 million euros for the purchase of these Rafale fighters, which is even higher than the price of the U.S. F-35 fighters. Now, the Rafale fighters just arrived and fell behind. India is also on pins and needles.
But for India, the Rafale has a huge advantage over the owl dragon, that is, it can mount nuclear warheads to fight. Due to the lack of experience in the design of large strategic bombers and the need of national defense strategy during the cold war, France considered to mount nuclear warheads on fighter planes. After the successful completion of the miniaturization of nuclear weapons, France developed a mirage IV bomber on the basis of mirage III fighter plane, which can carry tactical nuclear bombs for attack. In the subsequent development of mirage-2000 fighter plane It also retains the carrying capacity of nuclear weapons. The gust fighters developed in recent years also continue this fine tradition and can be used as air-based nuclear forces.
For India, nuclear deterrence has always been one of its important military deterrence means to Pakistan, and French fighter planes are also the basis of India's airborne nuclear weapons for a long time. If there is no French fighter plane, India can only rely on its own launched ballistic missiles that do not know where they will hit to carry out nuclear deterrence. Therefore, India's purchase of Rafale fighters is not only to deal with Pakistan's Besides JF17, it is also to maintain its own nuclear deterrence capability. However, India has also put forward requirements for France, requiring that the Rafale fighter sold by France must have the ability to launch "meteor" missiles. This type of missile is a new medium range air-to-air missile developed by France, with a range of more than 120 kilometers. Although it is not as good as thunderbolt-15, it is barely able to fight the first World War.
 

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According to recent media reports, at present, Pakistan Air Force's JF17 fighter has been replaced with the latest improved version of JF17 3. Compared with the previous JF17 1 and JF17 2, JF17 3 has been replaced with a more powerful klj-7a airborne active phased array radar. The phased array radar has a detection range of 170 km to air and 200-220 km to sea. It can track 15 targets at the same time and guide 4 missiles at the same time. At the same time, the radar also has the ability to guide the thunderbolt-15 medium range air-to-air missile. The thunderbolt-15 with a range of more than 150 kilometers and a maximum range of 200 kilometers, in combination with the klj-7a phased array radar, represents that the JF17 fighter has an absolute over the horizon air combat capability.

At present, the detection range of F-16C / dblock60 airborne radar is 140 km, that of f-15k airborne radar is 160 km-180 km, that of European Typhoon fighter ecr-90 airborne radar is only 160 km, that of klj-7a radar on JF17 block 3 is 170 km, which is very far, at least compared with that of Pakistan Air force as the absolute main American F-16 fighter The detection distance of airborne radar is far. However, Pakistan's air force is satisfied with the improvement of JF17 block3. The air force in India next door will cry. We need to know that the effective detection distance of n-001we radar on the most advanced su-30mk equipped in India is only about 100km, nearly twice the difference.
Although India also purchased a batch of Rafale fighters from France to equip the air force, the detection distance of rbe-2-aa active phased array radar on the Rafale fighters purchased by India is only about 140 kilometers, which is also inferior to the airborne radar performance of JF17 block 3. At the same time, the weapons India equipped for these Rafale radars are the "Mika" air-to-air missile developed by France in 1997, although The missile is also known as the medium range air-to-air missile, but its maximum range is only 45 kilometers, which can not be compared with the thunderbolt-15 air-to-air missile. Such a huge gap for India will only cause the Indian air force to fall into a disadvantage when confronting the Pakistan Air Force, and Pakistan can completely find the target and fire before the Indian fighters.
At the same time, on the basis of the old type of JF17, JF17 block3 has further strengthened the stealth performance of the fighters. Although the modified JF17 fighters can not achieve the same excellent radar stealth as the four generations of fighters, it also greatly reduces its reflection area on the radar, which will make the existing gap between the Rafale fighters and JF17 be further widened. At the same time, the price of these Rafale fighters is also increased It's very expensive. The Indian Air Force paid nearly 130 million euros for the purchase of these Rafale fighters, which is even higher than the price of the U.S. F-35 fighters. Now, the Rafale fighters just arrived and fell behind. India is also on pins and needles.
But for India, the Rafale has a huge advantage over the owl dragon, that is, it can mount nuclear warheads to fight. Due to the lack of experience in the design of large strategic bombers and the need of national defense strategy during the cold war, France considered to mount nuclear warheads on fighter planes. After the successful completion of the miniaturization of nuclear weapons, France developed a mirage IV bomber on the basis of mirage III fighter plane, which can carry tactical nuclear bombs for attack. In the subsequent development of mirage-2000 fighter plane It also retains the carrying capacity of nuclear weapons. The gust fighters developed in recent years also continue this fine tradition and can be used as air-based nuclear forces.
For India, nuclear deterrence has always been one of its important military deterrence means to Pakistan, and French fighter planes are also the basis of India's airborne nuclear weapons for a long time. If there is no French fighter plane, India can only rely on its own launched ballistic missiles that do not know where they will hit to carry out nuclear deterrence. Therefore, India's purchase of Rafale fighters is not only to deal with Pakistan's Besides JF17, it is also to maintain its own nuclear deterrence capability. However, India has also put forward requirements for France, requiring that the Rafale fighter sold by France must have the ability to launch "meteor" missiles. This type of missile is a new medium range air-to-air missile developed by France, with a range of more than 120 kilometers. Although it is not as good as thunderbolt-15, it is barely able to fight the first World War.
Who wrote this article. Please provide source too. Such a crude language used
 

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