Japan casts shadow on China's bullet train ambition with India

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Japan casts shadow on China's bullet train ambition with India

Having lost a contract in Mexico that was supposedly in the bag, China is keeping its fingers crossed regarding a possible bullet- train deal with India along the 1,754 kilometre Delhi-Chennai high speed rail corridor.

A commentary on Thursday that appeared in the Global Times, affiliated to the Chinese communist party, apprehended that the Sino-Indian partnership in the high-speed rail domain "has not yet been well-received by the Indian public".

Besides, it observed that "Japan, which is also eyeing the market and has pledged to offer a more attractive funding scheme, is a serious rival in the sector."
 

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I would advise against it, although Chinese stuff it at half price. Guaranteed it is not durable.

Remember that incident in Pakistani Railways, when they bought about 100 locomotives from China. On arrival in Pakistan 90% did not work. Only three or four plied on Pakistani commercial routes.

Hence asking for Chinese participation in this huge corridor is full of risk. China is still a maker of consumer goods . Their industrial capability to deliver huge durable industrial goods free of defects is still in doubt.
 

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It is better to be with Japan than with China.

1) We cant trust China cuz and they would turn our own money against us using Pakistan or themselves.
2) Japan is more durable when it comes to nation to nation relationship as well as for quality of services and products.

. Japanese trains are of better quality and maintain higher safety measures. China has a record of a major train accidents in which several hundred people have been killed. Therefore, chances are that India will prefer Japanese bullet trains.
http://www.niticentral.com/2014/08/...modi-abe-to-discuss-bullet-trains-236698.html
 
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It is better to be with Japan than with China.

1) We cant trust China cuz and they would turn our own money against us using Pakistan or themselves.
2) Japan is more durable when it comes to nation to nation relationship as well as for quality of services and products.



India-Japan rail diplomacy - Modi, Abe to discuss bullet trains | India News Analysis Opinions on Niti Central


LOL, lets see Japanese quality of services and products.

25 April 2005 , 107 killed and 562 injured ( ~700 passengers on that train)
Amagasaki rail crash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

November 9, 1963 162 killed and 120 injured
Tsurumi rail accident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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@CCP
LOL,
My intention was better to be with Japan with qulaity of service than with China on economy of service cuz Indo-Japan relationship is more trustworthy than with doublespeak-China.

Deadly High-Speed Train Crash in China
Deadly High-Speed Train Crash in China - Photo Essays - TIME

BBC News - China bullet train crash 'caused by design flaws'
BBC News - China bullet train crash 'caused by design flaws'
See Western media just focus on that single accident in China, but ignore those much much deadly accidents in Japan.
 
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LOL, lets see Japanese quality of services and products.

25 April 2005 , 107 killed and 562 injured ( total ~700 passengers on that train)
Amagasaki rail crash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

November 9, 1963 162 killed and 120 injured
Tsurumi rail accident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Chinese Accidents:
Rongjiawan, Yueyang 126 killed, 230 injured .
Zibo train collision 72 people dead, 416 injuries.
Wenzou Trail Collision 40 people dead 400+ injuries.
List of rail accidents in China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just look at the accidents in the last 20 years alone.
 

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No Chinese please... they are simply do not match up to European or Japanese quality...
 

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Chinese Accidents:
Rongjiawan, Yueyang 126 killed, 230 injured .
Zibo train collision 72 people dead, 416 injuries.
Wenzou Trail Collision 40 people dead 400+ injuries.
List of rail accidents in China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just look at the accidents in the last 20 years alone.
None of them can compare to Amagasaki rail crash .

25 April 2005 , 107 killed and 562 injured ( total ~700 passengers on that train)
Amagasaki rail crash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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@CCP it's laughable In just the last 10 years you have had 8 accidents that have 200+ casualties, and over 900 injured. Probability of crashes are much higher than Japanese. More crashes=more chances of deaths. But you still claim that the Chinese trains are safer?

You need to goto 2005, then to 1991, then to the 1960s to find Japanese accidents.
 
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@CCP it's laughable In just the last 10 years you have had 8 accidents that have 200+ casualties, and over 900 injured. Probability of crashes are much higher than Japanese. More crashes=more chances of deaths. But you still claim that the Chinese trains are safer?

You need to goto 2005, then to 1991, then to the 1960s to find Japanese accidents.
Then,
How many casualties and injured in Japan in last 10 years ?

How many trains are China operating and how many trains are Japan operating?

BTW, do you have the list of Train accidents in Japan?
 
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Then,
How many casualties and injured in Japan in last 10 years ?

How many more trains China operating than Japan?

BTW, do you have the list of Train accidents in Japan?
List of notable Japanese accidents:News and Photos of Japan - Long List of Train Accidents in Japan (upto 2005), after which there have been no serious accidents, and very few minor accidents, when compared to China)
Lists of rail accidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of notable Chinese: List of rail accidents in China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

More relevant, there has been no fatal accidents WRT to Shinkasen
5 Things to Know About Japan's Shinkansen Bullet Trains - WSJ
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8ed0f124-4960-11e4-8d68-00144feab7de.html#axzz3KiPBYTYz
In its 50 years of service, 5.6bn passengers travelled on the Tokaido Shinkansen, which boasts a clean record of punctuality and no fatal accidents.
 

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List of notable Japanese accidents:News and Photos of Japan - Long List of Train Accidents in Japan (upto 2005), after which there have been no serious accidents, and very few minor accidents, when compared to China)
Lists of rail accidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You do not have the list of Japan after 2005, how could you conclude " there have been no serious accidents, and very few minor accidents, when compared to China"




"December 27, 1995: Accident at Mishima Station on the Shinkansen line of JR Central: 1 passenger killed. The first fatal accident since the inauguration of the Shinkansen line in 1964."

Chin had also only one fatal accident right?
Notice that, we have much more high speed trains than Japan and operating in much faster speed.
 
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You do not have the list of Japan after 2005, how could you conclude " there have been no serious accidents, and very few minor accidents, when compared to China"
did you go through he second link?
Chin had only one fatal accident right?
So Japan has none, after 50 years.
 

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did you go through he second link?

So Japan has none, after 50 years.
"December 27, 1995: Accident at Mishima Station on the Shinkansen line of JR Central: 1 passenger killed. The first fatal accident since the inauguration of the Shinkansen line in 1964."
 

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I would not go for Chinese stuff.

They are usually substandard and shoddy.
 

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