Jairam in China, seeks a break for Indian tigers


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Jun 8, 2009
Jairam in China, seeks a break for Indian tigers

The fate of India’s last big cats is now being linked to the Chinese zodiac and China’s Year of the Tiger in 2010.

On Sunday, Union Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh — the new government’s first minister to visit China — landed in Beijing for bilateral climate change talks.

He also brought a thick dossier stuffed with enlarged photographs of China’s captive tiger farms with dead tigers piled in cold storage, and tiger skins sold in Tibet.

Poaching has reduced India’s wild tiger population to about 1,300.

China has hardly 20 wild tigers but about 4,000 captive tigers on farms that are supposedly a tourist attraction.

Activists claim that farmed tiger parts illegally end up in Chinese traditional medicine and as sex drugs.

Officially, domestic trade in tiger and leopard parts is illegal in China.

“We need to intensify efforts with the Chinese so that international tiger trade networks are smashed,” Ramesh told Hindustan Times.

“Poaching in India is directly linked to international trade through Nepal and Myanmar border into China.”

India will strategically refer to the zodiac and ask China to ‘assure increased enforcement to curb the tiger/leopard skin and bone trade considering the Year of the Tiger in 2010’.

India will also nudge Chinese officials to send a message to consumers that the government is against this trade.

It’s difficult for enforcement officials to distinguish between parts from a farmed and poached tiger.

Poaching is cheaper than breeding tigers and consumers prefer wild tiger parts.

India will again request China for ‘active liasoning’ with Nepal to control tiger trafficking along the Indian border, a phasing-out of tiger farms and the destruction of stockpiles of tiger parts.

Ramesh will also propose setting up a ministerial-level joint working group on environment and forests.

In India, so far (as on August 15, 2009) 68 tigers have been killed.



beat down tiger trafficking

wild animals are in great danger

if there are any NGO for this i would work a little for it

the gov are not always so responsible


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Tiger Farms - Another sickening aspect of Chinese medicine

Wild exotic animals expecially Tigers, Rhino, Leopards, and Bears are being hunted to extinction because our Chinese friends seem to think that certain parts of these animals are aphrodisiacs and will keep their dicks hard for hours or give a 60 y/o man the vigour of a 18 y/o.

This ****all theory originates from ancient Chinese medicine books so now a few ounces of a bears gall blander or Rhino horn cost thousands of dollars.

Thanks to the Chinaman Tiger bones are made into medicine and the Tiger farms in China are the most sickening sight of Animal torture seen anywhere in the world.

I saw a video of the Chinese Tiger Farm. The Tigers are kept in cages and have metal tubing inserted into the organs to extract some bile juice. The metal tubing are there permanently. It is one of the sickest most disgusting video clips of mistreatment of animals I have ever seen in my life.

I recently spoke to an old Chinese man in Malaysia who said that the stuff that comes from tiger farms is not good....the real good stuff is from the wild tiger !!!

I wonder why the Chinese dont have any sense of "Shame". I wonder why civil society in China doesn't give a shit about all the animals that are becoming extinct thanks to the "old chinese fart who cant get it up !!!

Why cant they just get some freaking Viagra ???


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Apr 1, 2009
Jairam Ramesh's efforts though appreciable, are of no practical use. If Tiger farms are flourishing in China inspite of it being illegal there, then we know that these Tiger farms have official backing in China. Its of no use to expect Chinese to act on this. Indian Govt must take unilateral steps to curb poaching and catch and punish the offenders very harshly.
The biggest hurdle to dealing with poaching is corruption(and ineffiency) of forest officials. Also these officials are poorly equiped to deal with poachers(who are trying innovative methods). The officials(AFAIK) are not well paid either. Then the regular cops rarely catch the culprits, and when they do, the culprits are not punished severely enough. I would like to see, stricter laws and stricter implementation of them on ground.

The wild life of India is precious and must be preserved. This is India's problem and India must deal with it. Asking China to help is a naive initiative, unless ofcourse, the motive is to prove to everyone(if they didnt know already) that Tiger extinction in India is directly related to Chinese ancient medicine industry(and the official backing from China that it enjoys).

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