J20 Stealth Fighter

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Looks like Chinese propaganda psy ops graphics department is working overtime, posting pretty new graphically-enhanced propaganda images which look like hollywood movie footage.

Interesting how they get so many new photographs of J-20 every week in spite of it being a super duper classified program in China, or why Chinese propagandists must post these pictures every week in forums? Because it's a part of Chinese psy ops propaganda.

The J-20's only worth is psy ops for brainwashed Chinese people. The J-20 has a crappy radar copied from a severely downgraded Russian radar from 90s. The J-20 is not stealthy, despite what brainwashed Chinese fanboys post. Chinese don't have a way to shield J-20 radar/radome or its IRST from being tracked by radar, even x band. This is why Chinese still used canards in J-20 in spite of them being detrimental to stealth. The gaps between canards and body visible from the front are radar resonance hotspots, meaning they make J-20 visible to x-band radar. The same holds true for other joints, gaps, bulges, cracks, corners and edges, moving surfaces and joints, bulges and corners in inlets, etc. The canopy, sides and rear of J-20 are also readily tracked by x-band radar. This is why the J-20 was tracked by the Indian Air Force SU-30MKI radar in Tibet and Ladakh.

The J-20 currently relies on Russian engines, just so it could fly for its propaganda psy ops photo sessions. J-20s radar is copied from severely downgraded Russian radar from 1990s. Why did China have to import SU-35s from Russia if the J-20 aircraft radar has such great technology?

These graphically enhanced pictures of J-20 are a part of Chinese propaganda psy ops designed to impress the Chinese population and others.

The reality is that the J-20 is more a barbie doll propaganda plane based on lies more than anything else. It is currently only flying because of engines imported from Russia. All so it could be used as a propaganda tool.

Anyone with knowledge of basic resonance physics can tell that the canards and joints (as well as other control surfaces and joints) can be tracked even by x-band radar from the front. J-20 does not have a way to mask its radar/radome from being tracked by all bands of radar, even x band. Same goes for canopy, parts of inlets, sides and rear of the plane, which can also be tracked by all bands of radar. All bulges, cracks, joints, gaps, moving surfaces with edges and corners can be tracked by all bands of radar. The gap visible between canard and body from the front will be picked up by all bands of radar.

These are the reasons why it was tracked by SU-30MKI radar at long range. So I will continue to call the J-20 a BS propaganda project, which is all it is. Chinese toys like J-20 are made to look pretty for propaganda psy ops purposes, but don't actually work very well.

J-20 radar is copied from downgraded Russian radars from the 90's and can be jammed by Indian, Russian and western jammers.

Chinese engine technology is so poor that its engines only last 80 hours before needing to be changed. This is why China still uses Russian engines on J-10s and JF-17s exported to Pakistan. Plus Chinese radar technology is so poor that Pakistan uses western radars on all JF-17s bought from China.

None of the Chinese toys work as advertised. Their fighter engines, avionics and aircraft technology is crap, and their pilot training sucks. The first female J-10 pilot died a horrible death after her J-10 engine failed and it crashed. As a result of crashes, PLAAF had to cut pilot training hours and replace them with simulator training, which leads to poorly trained pilots. Chinese engines and radars are such poor quality that Pakistan JF-17s are powered by Russian engines and use western radars and avionics. In any war, Chinese jets will crash left and right from engine failures, and Chinese radars will be disabled by Indian/Russian/western jammers.

Here is more evidence that Chinese aircraft manufacturing is crap:


JF-17 Blunder: 40% Of Pakistan’s Frontline Fighter Jets Docked For A Variety Of Reasons
It is Pakistan’s frontline fighter, warplanes to take on the Rafale. It is also one of China’s principal jets along with the J-20. As it should be, as it is a joint production effort by China and Pakistan.


Latest reports from the government sources show that about 40 per cent of JF-17 fighters in two Pakistan Air force bases are grounded for a variety of reasons. And there is no quick fix for the problems as they relate to structural issues.


The JF-17’s canopy electrical system is malfunctioning. This is also the case in the JF-17B, the dual seater. This is a potential danger as it makes ejection by the pilot in case of it being required either difficult or almost impossible.


There are problems with the fuselage, with cracks being detected in the lower fairing skin. This is an area that is most affected by G or gravity-related pressures.


There have been cracks in the strake areas, which could be in the fuselage or wings. A strake is a strengthening device and again, this could be because of stress during flying.



There are also cases of anchor breakages in the JF-17. This is another sign of structural weakness. The radar and it’s attached equipment is heavy and is clearly too heavy for that part of the fighter, sources said.

Stealth is not just about having an internal weapons bay and shape of aircraft. The radar/radome, canopy, IRST on the J-20 are all big reflectors of radar from the front. Which is why the J-20 is NOT STEALTHY, and has been repeatedly tracked by SU-30MKI radar in Ladakh. The canards, joints and gaps in between are big radar resonance hotspots from the front.

The J-20 is not stealthy; it can be easily tracked by modern radars from all angles, and has been repeatedly tracked by Indian Air Force in Ladakh. This is because China still has no way to hide radar reflection from its radar/radome and canopy in the front, and from multiple resonance hotspots such as canard joints and other control surfaces. The radar reflections from the sides and back are even worse.

The Chinese material technology is so far behind that the canopy, IRST, canards and canard joints, control surfaces, inlet features and other resonance hotspots also increase the RCS of the J-20 to a point where it can easily be tracked by modern radars. Chinese radar and ECM is also very primitive, and is stolen from SU-35 it imported from Russia very recently. Luckily the Russians know that Chinese are thieves and liars, so they only gave very primitive technology on the SU-35.

The avionics on the J-20 are very primitive, as they are stolen from the SU-35s that China recently imported from Russia. If China did not need to steal SU-35 avionics, why would China order the SU-35 so recently, with a small order of only 24 aircraft? Russia only gave a very downgraded version of its 1990s radar and other avionics on the SU-35 sold to China. Rafale's radar, ECM and other avionics are 2 generations ahead of the avionics on the J-20 that China stole from Russian SU-35. Russia knows that Chinese are thieves and liars, so they only give very primitive and downgraded avionics to China. J-20 is extremely primitive in avionics when compared to the Rafale, and even behind the SU-30MKI. The J-20 radar can be easily jammed by Indian, Russian, and western ECM.

The Rafale's avionics and ECM are 2 generations more advanced than the J-20. The J-20 is a Chinese propaganda turkey, and will be easily shot down by Indian SU-30MKIs and Rafales, as both these aircraft have superior avionics and are already able to track and outsmart the J-20 through superior avionics and ECM technology.
The Rafale has actual stealth through the use of ECM, while the J-20 has poor ECM and a trackable radar signature from all angles (including front because of its exposed radar, canopy and resonance hotspots like exposed canard joints, control surface joints, bumps on inlets, etc), which is why Indian Air Force fighters have already been tracking it in Ladakh. Even SU-30MKI can easily defeat J-20 due to superior avionics and ECM (which can jam J-20's primitive radar).

Compared to Rafale and upgraded SU-30MKI, J-20 is like a 1960s era Mig-21 with poor outdated avionics and will be tracked and shot down quite easily. It's also horribly underpowered (due to use of Russian engines, since Chinese engines failed) and without a cannon, so even worse than the Mig-21 in these ways. The Rafale and SU-30MKI have far superior avionics and ECM, and will easily destroy the J-20 in air combat.





nationalinterest.org


If the J-20 Stealth Fighter Is So Amazing Why Is China Buying Russia's Su-35?
A really good question.
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nationalinterest.org
If the J-20 Stealth Fighter Is So Amazing Why Is China Buying Russia's Su-35?


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India’s Rafale Vs China’s J-20: How The Two Fighters Stack Up Against Each Other
Here’s everything you should know.
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IAF's Sukhoi Su-30 MKIs can detect and track Chinese Chengdu J-20 stealth fighters
The IAF Sukhoi Su-30MKIs on a sortie in the Northeast managed to track Chengdu J-20 fighters being operated by the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) over Tibet.
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IAF's Sukhoi Su-30 MKIs can detect and track Chinese Chengdu J-20 stealth fighters

The IAF Sukhoi Su-30MKIs on a sortie in the Northeast managed to track Chengdu J-20 fighters being operated by the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) over Tibet.

Indian Air Force can track and detect the state-of-art Chinese Chengdu J-20 fighters, which is reported to have stealth capabilities. The Sukhoi Su-30MKI radar can see the Chengdu J-20 hundreds of kilometres away, according to the IAF. India is planning to upgrade the Su-30 MKIs with Russian Phazotron Zhuk-AE Active electronically scanned array (AESA) radars which can track 30 targets and engage six of them simultaneously.
According to the Indian Defence Research Wing, the IAF Su-30MKIs on a sortie in the Northeast managed to track Chengdu J-20 fighters being operated by the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) over Tibet. IAF chief Air Chief Marshal Birender Singh Dhanoa said the "Su-30 radar is good enough and can pick it (J-20) up from many kilometers away". He made the comment a couple of months back when asked if the J-20 which was "invisible to the radar" could be a threat.

The top IAF commander expressed confidence that the IAF was on a strong wicket and the new assets with the force were more than adequate to take on the Chengdu J-20. He added that his force was more than capable of matching the Chinese Air Force as the former has several limitations because their airstrips are located on a very high altitude.
While Chinese defence experts claim the Chengdu J-20 is China's answer to the American fifth-generation stealth fighters like F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II but western experts claim the former is just a fourth-generation medium and long-range fighter with an inferior engine compared to the US stealth fighters.

The Chinese have been building up their infrastructure to allow their fighters to take off from runways in Tibet even though the high altitude means that the jets have several limitations in terms of fuel and weapons payload. India has been countering the Chinese buildup by basing its frontline Su-30 MKIs in the northeast.
Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa had said that IAF's 13-day long wargame Gagan Shakti 2018 had achieved more than its objectives while adding that the mega exercise was not against any country in particular. The IAF finetuned its response and practiced scenarios where nuclear or chemical attacks have been carried out. Gagan Shakti 2018 also saw the IAF move its assets rapidly between the eastern and western sectors.
The 13-day Gagan Shakti 2018 exercises also saw the extensive testing of the newly-inducted homemade HAL Tejas supersonic fighter jet. Check the combat capability of the Tejas and its performance was a key area of focus of the exercises.

The J-20 is more of a psy ops propaganda barbie doll project designed to impress brainwashed Chinese people in order to keep them under control. These mindless Chinese drones believe whatever propaganda the Chinese government feeds them, not knowing that their Chinese Communist Party government are liars, thieves and criminals. Here is more proof that Chinese Communist Party government are liars, thieves and criminals, so their claims about J-20 and other Chinese weapons cannot be trusted because these claims are just Chinese Communist Party propaganda designed to keep brainwashed Chinese people under the CCP government control as slaves:

China transferred detained Uighurs to factories used by global brands – report
At least 80,000 Uighurs working under ‘conditions that strongly suggest forced labour’

At least 80,000 Uighurs have been transferred from Xinjiang province, some of them directly from detention centres, to factories across China that make goods for dozens of global brands, according to a report from the Canberra-based Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI).

Using open-source public documents, satellite imagery, and media reports, the institute identified 27 factories in nine Chinese provinces that have used labourers transferred from re-education centres in Xinjiang since 2017 as part of a programme known as “Xinjiang aid”.

In conditions that “strongly suggest forced labour”, the report says, workers live in segregated dormitories, are required to study Mandarin and undergo ideological training. They are frequently subjected to surveillance and barred from observing religious practices. According to government documents analysed by the ASPI, workers are often assigned minders and have limited freedom of movement.

The factories were part of supply chains providing goods for 83 global brands, the report found, including Apple, Nike and Volkswagen among others.

China has come under mounting international scrutiny for its policies toward Uighurs and other Muslim minorities in Xinjiang, where as many as 1.5 million people have been sent to re-education and internment camps.
Beijing, which says these facilities are voluntary vocational training centres, has said in recent months that most “students” of such centres have “graduated” and returned to society.

The report from the ASPI adds to growing evidence that even after being released from the camps, former detainees are still subject to severe controls and in some cases forced labour. The report’s authors said the actual number of those sent to other parts of China as part of the work programme was “likely to be far higher” than 80,000.

“This report exposes a new phase in China’s social re-engineering campaign targeting minority citizens, revealing new evidence that some factories across China are using forced Uighur labour under a state-sponsored labour transfer scheme that is tainting the global supply chain,” the researchers concluded.

Case studies highlighted in the report, titled Uyghurs for Sale, include Qingdao Taekwang Shoes, a factory in eastern China that produces shoes for Nike. The workers were mostly Uighur women from the prefectures of Hotan and Kashgar in southern Xinjiang, and attended night classes whose curriculum was similar to that of the re-education camps.


According to government notices, workers were required to attend the “Pomegranate Seed” night school, named after a policy that aims to make ethnic minorities and the majority Han Chinese ethnic group as close as the seeds of a pomegranate. At the school, workers study Mandarin, sing the Chinese national anthem and receive “patriotic education”. Public security and other government workers were to give daily reports on the “thoughts” of the Uighur workers.

Advertisements for “government-sponsored Uighur labour” have begun to appear more frequently online, according to the researchers. One ad read: “The advantages of Xinjiang workers are: semi-military style management, can withstand hardship, no loss of personnel … minimum order 100 workers!”

The report called on China to allow multinational companies unfettered access to investigate any potential instances of abusive or forced labour in factories in China, and for companies to conduct audits and human rights due-diligence inspections.

“It is vital that, as these problems are addressed, Uighur labourers are not placed in positions of greater harm or, for example, involuntarily transferred back to Xinjiang, where their safety cannot necessarily be guaranteed,” it said.

An Apple spokesman, Josh Rosenstock, told the Washington Post: “Apple is dedicated to ensuring that everyone in our supply chain is treated with the dignity and respect they deserve. We have not seen this report but we work closely with all our suppliers to ensure our high standards are upheld.”

A Volkswagen spokesman told the paper: “None of the mentioned supplier companies are currently a direct supplier of Volkswagen.” He said: “We are committed to our responsibility in all areas of our business where we hold direct authority.”

A Nike spokeswoman told the Post: “We are committed to upholding international labour standards globally,” adding that its suppliers are “strictly prohibited from using any type of prison, forced, bonded or indentured labour”. Kim Jae-min, the chief executive of Taekwang, the QingdaoTaekwang factory’s South Korean parent company, said about 600 Uighurs were among 7,100 workers at the plant, adding that the migrant workers had been brought in to offset local labour shortages.

The above article is proof that just banning products made in Xinjiang, Tibet and other minority areas is not enough. The Chinese government is moving Uyghur, Tibetan and other minority areas' people to other parts of China to work as slaves in factories that make products for big brand name corporations like Nike and Apple. These international corporations are complicit by looking the other way for access to cheap Chinese slave labor. The only way to stop forced slave labor in China is if these big international corporations move all their manufacturing out of China.

Here is more proof that Chinese Communist Party leaders are criminals and liars, and their word cannot be trusted on the J-20:

Kyle Bass sits down with infamous Chinese businessman Guo Wengui, also known as known as “Miles Kwok,” to hear a series of shocking accusations and predictions revolving around the Chinese government. Kwok provides his perception of the backstory behind several recent high-profile news items, and touches on the Chinese government’s management of the economy. He also unfurls an alarming forecast about Alibaba co-founder Jack Ma. Filmed on October 5, 2018 at an undisclosed location.
 
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Too much propaganda to make happy

China has mastered some types of engine, clones of Russian or british engines but they can build them. like engines for JH-7 or J-7 or J-8IIs.
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Their WS-10 already is flown in Su-27 clones
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However they are still in 1970s engine technology with of course some updates.

China can not build a 5th generation engine.

117 is a 4 plus plus type engine
that type of engine, type 30 is a truely engine they need


the avionics well unless you have manuals and seen them is unlikely you can say how effective they are.

Only in combat you can know since Chinese will not show their weaknesses or strengths.

How stealthy it is? well untill you do not see the wreckages of Several J-20s after been shot down, to be honest is hard to know.


The rest is make believe China is inferior, in my opinion they do have capable technology, superior to the west? I mean American F-22 or British sixth generation tempest, i do not think so but their J-20 should be a very difficult opponent even for Rafale and despite to your great optimism i doubt the Rafale will have superiority, at the most will be able to down it, luckly in decent numbers, and I am a Rafale fan but i doubt it will have overwheming superiority.

It is like a MiG-23 versus F-15 combat Rafale could down it but the odds are not in its favour

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China is way way behind the west and Russians in engine technology. In fact China is way behind in anything that needs repeated reliable usage over a long period of time. Jet engines is one of those. It has to work every time perfectly to design specs. And China is yet to develop a single product in any sphere that works over a long period of time to state-of-the-art design specs. The failure of wingloong drone program is a classic example of China’s inability to master reliable air flight and associated propulsion mechanisms. The failure of the reverse engineered bullet trains is another example - most trains run at well below design speeds as the reliability of Chinese bullet trains is suspect at design speeds. Chinese products are purchased for cheapness not for reliability or quality - a reason no one drives a Chinese made car or buys train engines from China. Korean and Japanese reliability continue to be the gold standard in Asia.
on chips, it is not about de one chip that can beat a US chip. It is about making that chip work day in and day out reliably over long periods of time.
i can 100% bet that Beidou based commercial GPS will not take off. Same issue - repeated, reliable usage is not proven.
 

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How did the program fail? It's been selling quite successfully to the Middle East and Africa.
To him, a million dollars Chinese drone didn't present the reliability and tech quality of 100 million western drone is a failure.
 

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How did the program fail? It's been selling quite successfully to the Middle East and Africa.
Yup...very successful program. With this level of IQ exhibited by propaganda bots, almost every Chinese program fails. Are you guys still stealing baby powder from Australia, by the way, another product which must work repeatedly without failure?

reverse engineered copies only work so much lol. The only reason anyone buys Chinese knockoffs is because the original is denied to them - in this case the US’ MQ9B was not available to its gulf allies who then rushed to buy the Chinese knockoffs, found the performance terrible, and then sold them/returned them etc.


Listen bots, if you can’t make good quality milk powder that does not kill your children, reliable high technology products are beyond CCP’s comprehension.
 

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Yup...very successful program. With this level of IQ exhibited by propaganda bots, almost every Chinese program fails. Are you guys still stealing baby powder from Australia, by the way, another product which must work repeatedly without failure?
Too fail to be 2nd ...


China is now world's 2nd-biggest weapons producer — SIPRI report


China is the world's second-largest arms producer, behind the US, a Swedish research institute announced on Monday.

New research from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) shows that four Chinese arms groups generate sufficient sales to be ranked among the world's top 20 weapons sellers. The four groups have combined sales worth $54.1 billion (€49.1 billion) in 2017.

 

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Too fail to be 2nd ...


China is now world's 2nd-biggest weapons producer — SIPRI report


China is the world's second-largest arms producer, behind the US, a Swedish research institute announced on Monday.

New research from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) shows that four Chinese arms groups generate sufficient sales to be ranked among the world's top 20 weapons sellers. The four groups have combined sales worth $54.1 billion (€49.1 billion) in 2017.

Quantity does not mean quality and reliability. For example, Chinese factories selling billions of dollars of cheap holiday lights does not mean those lights will last for the next season. Would such simple words work for low IQ bots to understand what is meant by reliability? The very thing that you would quote a SIPRI study that is mainly used to highlight large quantity defence purchase as an indicator of quality demonstrates extremely low IQ. A nation of such low IQ bots cannot produce top technology. Q.E.D.
 

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Mod Edit: There are no peer reviewed studies on the IQ stats you posted.
 
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Yup...very successful program. With this level of IQ exhibited by propaganda bots, almost every Chinese program fails. Are you guys still stealing baby powder from Australia, by the way, another product which must work repeatedly without failure?

reverse engineered copies only work so much lol. The only reason anyone buys Chinese knockoffs is because the original is denied to them - in this case the US’ MQ9B was not available to its gulf allies who then rushed to buy the Chinese knockoffs, found the performance terrible, and then sold them/returned them etc.


Listen bots, if you can’t make good quality milk powder that does not kill your children, reliable high technology products are beyond CCP’s comprehension.
What's your measure of how successful a program is then?
 

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World IQ Map:

1. Hong Kong (108)
2. Singapore (108)
3. South Korea (106)
4. China (105)
5. Japan (105)
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125. Bangladesh 82
126. India 82
127. Maldives 81
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this is debunked bogus data. Like I said quoting such data clearly confirms that your intelligence is not up to the mark. do not quote studies unless they are published in peer reviewed top science journals. hopefully you won’t ask me what a peer reviewed journal is. LOL.

clearly the study I have made in this forum just recently- commie bots are amongst the lowest IQ people in the world - is more credible than what you quoted.
 

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What's your measure of how successful a program is then?
sought after reliability - like Toyota and Honda and other Japanese cars made in the 70-80s are still working with 200000-300000 miles on them. Like countries not buying your drones and throwing them away. Like when a defense product from the west, Russia, China, Japan, Korea are offered, the Chinese equipment wins on quality, even when the price is at a premium such as the S400, and not because CCP extended billions in credit to purchase its low quality arms. In any case, if you don’t understand what is reliability especially in cases where human life is involved, you should not be on this forum.
 

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Like countries not buying your drones and throwing them away. Like when a defense product from the west, Russia, China, Japan, Korea are offered, the Chinese equipment wins on quality, even when the price is at a premium such as the S400, and not because CCP extended billions in credit to purchase its low quality arms. In any case, if you don’t understand what is reliability especially in cases where human life is involved, you should not be on this forum.
DJI named top commercial drone maker with 70% market share

 

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DJI named top commercial drone maker with 70% market share

We are talking about critical applications like stuff needs to work every minute of the day 365 days a year. Since this concept is not being understood by low IQ bots, let me try a civilian example. Take the elevators industry - if an elevator fails even once, people may get injured or, worse, die. All leading brands are American, German, Japanese. NOW, do you get what I am saying, or is your brain still mushed? The articles you post are all well known to Indians - none of this is new. You cannot satisfy engineering capabilities by posting articles such as what you did. Hardcore peer validated technology demonstration and market share in critical technologies is needed. China has 0% market share in most of the critical applications the world needs. Indian companies sell more cars, tractors etc in western market than China does. You go to Lagos, Nigeria or Kandahar, Afghanistan and you see Indian three-wheelers all over the place. Notice how Indian metro rail systems use very limited Chinese rolling stock.
There are some heavy engineering equipment companies that make decent stuff (reverse engineered german technology) but can never match up to German or Austrian Technology. You can see this is in all the critical road and building construction projects all over the world.
Are you able to get it NOW into your thick skull, or are you going to bring in more irrelevant newspaper clippings? You need to turn around and tell your 50 cent bosses that you are unable to understand what higher IQ Indians are saying and that the article URLs the botheads are supplying are too simplistic and failing to convince the highly intellectual Indians (besides the west, the only chess champion is from India). Indians generally consider Chinese to be of low IQ with a hive mind, slave like mentality lacking creative juices and independent thought process. And the bots on this forum continue to reinforce that Indians are correct for thinking like that. It is upto you bots to come up with some decent stuff to convince us otherwise, but that requires creativity and CCP has zilch of that, LOL.
 

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We are talking about critical applications like stuff needs to work every minute of the day 365 days a year. Since this concept is not being understood by low IQ bots, let me try a civilian example. Take the elevators industry - if an elevator fails even once, people may get injured or, worse, die. All leading brands are American, German, Japanese. NOW, do you get what I am saying, or is your brain still mushed? The articles you post are all well known to Indians - none of this is new. You cannot satisfy engineering capabilities by posting articles such as what you did. Hardcore peer validated technology demonstration and market share in critical technologies is needed. China has 0% market share in most of the critical applications the world needs. Indian companies sell more cars, tractors etc in western market than China does. You go to Lagos, Nigeria or Kandahar, Afghanistan and you see Indian three-wheelers all over the place. Notice how Indian metro rail systems use very limited Chinese rolling stock.
Seems the Auto parts, Power equipments, Telecom networks are not working every minute of the day 365 by your definition...



Over a quarter of India's auto part imports - $4.2 billion - came from China in 2019, including engine and transmission parts, according to data from the Auto Component Manufacturers' Association of India (ACMA).

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Some of India's largest drug companies, such as Sun Pharmaceutical Industries , Lupin and IPCA Labs , rely on China, and India overall gets about 70% of its supply of active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs) from there, industry officials said.




India imported power equipment worth Rs 71,000 crore in FY19, and about Rs 21,000 crore worth equipment alone was imported from China.




Chinese phone brands’ market share up at 76% in India

 

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Seems the Auto parts, Power equipments, Telecom networks are not working every minute of the day 365 by your definition...



Over a quarter of India's auto part imports - $4.2 billion - came from China in 2019, including engine and transmission parts, according to data from the Auto Component Manufacturers' Association of India (ACMA).

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Some of India's largest drug companies, such as Sun Pharmaceutical Industries , Lupin and IPCA Labs , rely on China, and India overall gets about 70% of its supply of active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs) from there, industry officials said.




India imported power equipment worth Rs 71,000 crore in FY19, and about Rs 21,000 crore worth equipment alone was imported from China.




Chinese phone brands’ market share up at 76% in India

told you not to cite irrelevant articles.yet you do so exhibiting further retarded mentality. do the articles you cite discuss the quality of Chinese parts anywhere?

APIs are the basic chemicals of a pharmaceutical-the raw chemical if you will. It is again chosen for costs. The real pharmacological quality assurance and fda approval is done in Indian labs. This is why China has not been able to setup a generic pharma manufacturing setup - clearly pointing to the fact that no one is going to pop a made in China pill anytime soon, but the world is more than happy to pop a made in India pill. The funny thing is you cite an article that actually supports why China cannot compete where reliability is a must. LOL.
the real low IQ of commie bots is disappointing. Well, with so many viruses coming out of CCP-land, I guess the bots have all gotten their brains mushed. LOL.
in any case, first figure out how to make reliable baby milk powder that does not kill your newborns. And stop stealing those from Australia the very country you are Sabre rattling against. Another sign of CCP’s extremely low IQ and childish tantrums against a superior IQ nation.
 

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told you not to cite irrelevant articles.yet you do so exhibiting further retarded mentality. do the articles you cite discuss the quality of Chinese parts anywhere?

APIs are the basic chemicals of a pharmaceutical-the raw chemical if you will. It is again chosen for costs. The real pharmacological quality assurance and fda approval is done in Indian labs. This is why China has not been able to setup a generic pharma manufacturing setup - clearly pointing to the fact that no one is going to pop a made in China pill anytime soon, but the world is more than happy to pop a made in India pill. The funny thing is you cite an article that actually supports why China cannot compete where reliability is a must. LOL.
the real low IQ of commie bots is disappointing. Well, with so many viruses coming out of CCP-land, I guess the bots have all gotten their brains mushed. LOL.
in any case, first figure out how to make reliable baby milk powder that does not kill your newborns. And stop stealing those from Australia the very country you are Sabre rattling against. Another sign of CCP’s extremely low IQ and childish tantrums against a superior IQ nation.
How about the Chinesee equipments in your power grid and telecom network? there are 30%-50% share in your both networks ... You are blaming your poor national wide power failure to Chinese equipments?

But how do you blame the market share of your mobile phone? ^_^ U mean only elegant and rich people would afford Lava or Micromax?


And how do you explain this? You have higher IQ than those mumbay engineering guys?

China makes its biggest tunnel boring machine for India

 
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