J20 Stealth Fighter

[MiG-29SMT]

The power of Chinese engines does not allow the J-20 fighter to use laser weapons
February 8, 2022
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The intention of the Chinese military to equip its most advanced fighter J-20 with high-tech combat systems, such as lasers, cannot yet be realized due to the insufficient power of the aircraft's engines.




Currently, a number of countries, including the United States, are prioritizing directed energy weapons that can be used to combat hypersonic missiles. The airborne combat laser is considered as a promising weapon that is capable of hitting other aircraft, as well as objects on land and at sea.

However, the J-20 does not have a powerful enough power plant. In its current version, it does not provide energy for new weapons systems, and work on its modernization is chronically behind schedule. The increased power engine for the new generation of fighters of the PLA Air Force was supposed to appear in 2020, but schedules are constantly shifting.

The limited thrust of the WS-10 engines, originally designed for earlier generations of fighter jets, could be a serious constraint to China's airborne laser weapons program.

As Western observers explain, the increase in energy consumption will negatively affect the flight range and maneuverability of the fighter. There are also physical limitations: when an aircraft approaches the speed of sound, airflow disturbances degrade the quality of lasers. In this regard, experts suggest that Chinese developers at the current stage focus on developing the capabilities of a fighter to control drones.

The J-20 needs more thrust and stable power output to make full use of directed energy weapons.

- writes a columnist in the Hong Kong edition of SCMP.

Мощность китайских двигателей не позволяет истребителю J-20 использовать лазерное оружие

Намерение китайских военных оснастить свой самый передовой истребитель J-20 высокотехнологичными боевыми системами, такими как лазеры, пока не может реализоваться из-за недостаточной мощности двигателей самолёта. В настоящее время в целом ряде стран, включая США, отдаётся приоритетное внимание

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[SexyChineseLady]

Does ANY fighter have laser weapons? What a weird article. lol

 

[MiG-29SMT]

 

[rockdog]

The power of Chinese engines does not allow the J-20 fighter to use laser weapons
February 8, 2022
44


The intention of the Chinese military to equip its most advanced fighter J-20 with high-tech combat systems, such as lasers, cannot yet be realized due to the insufficient power of the aircraft's engines.




Currently, a number of countries, including the United States, are prioritizing directed energy weapons that can be used to combat hypersonic missiles. The airborne combat laser is considered as a promising weapon that is capable of hitting other aircraft, as well as objects on land and at sea.

However, the J-20 does not have a powerful enough power plant. In its current version, it does not provide energy for new weapons systems, and work on its modernization is chronically behind schedule. The increased power engine for the new generation of fighters of the PLA Air Force was supposed to appear in 2020, but schedules are constantly shifting.

The limited thrust of the WS-10 engines, originally designed for earlier generations of fighter jets, could be a serious constraint to China's airborne laser weapons program.

As Western observers explain, the increase in energy consumption will negatively affect the flight range and maneuverability of the fighter. There are also physical limitations: when an aircraft approaches the speed of sound, airflow disturbances degrade the quality of lasers. In this regard, experts suggest that Chinese developers at the current stage focus on developing the capabilities of a fighter to control drones.

The J-20 needs more thrust and stable power output to make full use of directed energy weapons.

- writes a columnist in the Hong Kong edition of SCMP.

Мощность китайских двигателей не позволяет истребителю J-20 использовать лазерное оружие

Намерение китайских военных оснастить свой самый передовой истребитель J-20 высокотехнологичными боевыми системами, такими как лазеры, пока не может реализоваться из-за недостаточной мощности двигателей самолёта. В настоящее время в целом ряде стран, включая США, отдаётся приоритетное внимание

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[rockdog]

The power of Chinese engines does not allow the J-20 fighter to use laser weapons
February 8, 2022
44


The intention of the Chinese military to equip its most advanced fighter J-20 with high-tech combat systems, such as lasers, cannot yet be realized due to the insufficient power of the aircraft's engines.




Currently, a number of countries, including the United States, are prioritizing directed energy weapons that can be used to combat hypersonic missiles. The airborne combat laser is considered as a promising weapon that is capable of hitting other aircraft, as well as objects on land and at sea.

However, the J-20 does not have a powerful enough power plant. In its current version, it does not provide energy for new weapons systems, and work on its modernization is chronically behind schedule. The increased power engine for the new generation of fighters of the PLA Air Force was supposed to appear in 2020, but schedules are constantly shifting.

The limited thrust of the WS-10 engines, originally designed for earlier generations of fighter jets, could be a serious constraint to China's airborne laser weapons program.

As Western observers explain, the increase in energy consumption will negatively affect the flight range and maneuverability of the fighter. There are also physical limitations: when an aircraft approaches the speed of sound, airflow disturbances degrade the quality of lasers. In this regard, experts suggest that Chinese developers at the current stage focus on developing the capabilities of a fighter to control drones.

The J-20 needs more thrust and stable power output to make full use of directed energy weapons.

- writes a columnist in the Hong Kong edition of SCMP.

Мощность китайских двигателей не позволяет истребителю J-20 использовать лазерное оружие

Намерение китайских военных оснастить свой самый передовой истребитель J-20 высокотехнологичными боевыми системами, такими как лазеры, пока не может реализоваться из-за недостаточной мощности двигателей самолёта. В настоящее время в целом ряде стран, включая США, отдаётся приоритетное внимание

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The power of Chinese engines does not allow the J-20 fighter to use anti gravity weapon ...

 

[ym888]

F-35s have encountered J-20s over East China Sea: USAF general
By Greg Waldron16 March 2022

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A top US Air Force (USAF) general says that Lockheed Martin F-35s have had at least one encounter with Chengdu J-20s, and that the Shaanxi KJ-500 airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft has a key role in long-range air-to-air kill chains.
USAF General Kenneth Wilsbach, Commander, Pacific Air Forces did not, however, divulge when the F-35/J-20 encounter took place, or if there have been more than one. He also touched on the role of the new Chinese fighter.

Source: Wikimedia Commons
Two J-20s doing a flyby at Airshow China in Zhuhai, November 2018
“It’s a bit early to say what they intend to do with the J-20, so really all we’ve seen it do is air superiority,” he says.
“But we notice that they are flying it pretty well. We recently had – I wouldn’t call it an engagement – where we got relatively close to the J-20s along with our F-35s in the East China Sea, and we’re relatively impressed with the command and control associated with the J-20.”
Wilsbach made the remarks during a discussion posted on the YouTube channel of the Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies.
“We’re seeing relatively professional flying and it’s still too early to tell exactly what they intend to do with [the J-20] – whether it’s going to be more like an F-35 that’s capable of doing many, many missions or more like an F-22 that is primarily an air superiority fighter that has an air-to-ground capability.”

Source: Greg Waldron/FlightGlobal
The Shaanxi KJ-500 at Airshow China in November 2018
Wilsbach also touched on the KJ-500, which in recent years has emerged as China’s key AEW&C platform.
Powered by four turboprops, the KJ-500 is based on the Y-9 tactical transport. The aircraft carries a three-panel active electronically scanned array radar in a fixed radome above the fuselage. This is understood to provide 360° radar coverage.
“The KJ-500 plays a significant role in some of their capability for long range fires,” says Wilsbach.
“Some of their very long range air-to-air missiles are aided by that KJ-500. Being able to interrupt that kill chain is something that interests me greatly.”
China’s PL-15 long range air-to-air missile is understood to have a range in excess of 107nm (200km). The radar-guided weapon is carried by types such as the Chengdu J-10C, Shenyang J-11B, J-15 and J-16, Islamabad’s Pakistan Aeronautical Complex JF-17 Block 3, and the J-20.
Wilsbach’s remarks hint that the KJ-500 may identify and assign targets for Chinese fighters, which can then launch the active radar homing PL-15 from great stand-off distances.

F-35s have encountered J-20s over East China Sea: USAF general

A top US Air Force (USAF) general says that Lockheed Martin F-35s have had at least one encounter with Chengdu J-20s, and that the Shaanxi KJ-500 airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft has a key role in long-range air-to-air kill chains.

www.flightglobal.com

 

[SexyChineseLady]

F-35s have encountered J-20s over East China Sea: USAF general
By Greg Waldron16 March 2022

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A top US Air Force (USAF) general says that Lockheed Martin F-35s have had at least one encounter with Chengdu J-20s, and that the Shaanxi KJ-500 airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft has a key role in long-range air-to-air kill chains.
USAF General Kenneth Wilsbach, Commander, Pacific Air Forces did not, however, divulge when the F-35/J-20 encounter took place, or if there have been more than one. He also touched on the role of the new Chinese fighter.

Source: Wikimedia Commons
Two J-20s doing a flyby at Airshow China in Zhuhai, November 2018
“It’s a bit early to say what they intend to do with the J-20, so really all we’ve seen it do is air superiority,” he says.
“But we notice that they are flying it pretty well. We recently had – I wouldn’t call it an engagement – where we got relatively close to the J-20s along with our F-35s in the East China Sea, and we’re relatively impressed with the command and control associated with the J-20.”
Wilsbach made the remarks during a discussion posted on the YouTube channel of the Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies.
“We’re seeing relatively professional flying and it’s still too early to tell exactly what they intend to do with [the J-20] – whether it’s going to be more like an F-35 that’s capable of doing many, many missions or more like an F-22 that is primarily an air superiority fighter that has an air-to-ground capability.”

Source: Greg Waldron/FlightGlobal
The Shaanxi KJ-500 at Airshow China in November 2018
Wilsbach also touched on the KJ-500, which in recent years has emerged as China’s key AEW&C platform.
Powered by four turboprops, the KJ-500 is based on the Y-9 tactical transport. The aircraft carries a three-panel active electronically scanned array radar in a fixed radome above the fuselage. This is understood to provide 360° radar coverage.
“The KJ-500 plays a significant role in some of their capability for long range fires,” says Wilsbach.
“Some of their very long range air-to-air missiles are aided by that KJ-500. Being able to interrupt that kill chain is something that interests me greatly.”
China’s PL-15 long range air-to-air missile is understood to have a range in excess of 107nm (200km). The radar-guided weapon is carried by types such as the Chengdu J-10C, Shenyang J-11B, J-15 and J-16, Islamabad’s Pakistan Aeronautical Complex JF-17 Block 3, and the J-20.
Wilsbach’s remarks hint that the KJ-500 may identify and assign targets for Chinese fighters, which can then launch the active radar homing PL-15 from great stand-off distances.

F-35s have encountered J-20s over East China Sea: USAF general

A top US Air Force (USAF) general says that Lockheed Martin F-35s have had at least one encounter with Chengdu J-20s, and that the Shaanxi KJ-500 airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft has a key role in long-range air-to-air kill chains.

www.flightglobal.com

PLAAF/PLANAF aircraft encounter F-35s, F-15s, F-16s and F-18s across the China Seas all the time in the actual combat theater because of the heavy amount of intercepts carried on by all sides.

I don't think there is busier region outside of an actual warzone (like Ukraine.) Lots of flying and on-the-job training!

 

[ym888]

PLAAF/PLANAF aircraft encounter F-35s, F-15s, F-16s and F-18s across the China Seas all the time in the actual combat theater because of the heavy amount of intercepts carried on by all sides.

I don't think there is busier region outside of an actual warzone (like Ukraine.) Lots of flying and on-the-job training!

This has been the case for decades.

Pilots on either side could see each other's faces

 

[johnj]

F-35s have encountered J-20s over East China Sea: USAF general
By Greg Waldron16 March 2022

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A top US Air Force (USAF) general says that Lockheed Martin F-35s have had at least one encounter with Chengdu J-20s, and that the Shaanxi KJ-500 airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft has a key role in long-range air-to-air kill chains.
USAF General Kenneth Wilsbach, Commander, Pacific Air Forces did not, however, divulge when the F-35/J-20 encounter took place, or if there have been more than one. He also touched on the role of the new Chinese fighter.

Source: Wikimedia Commons
Two J-20s doing a flyby at Airshow China in Zhuhai, November 2018
“It’s a bit early to say what they intend to do with the J-20, so really all we’ve seen it do is air superiority,” he says.
“But we notice that they are flying it pretty well. We recently had – I wouldn’t call it an engagement – where we got relatively close to the J-20s along with our F-35s in the East China Sea, and we’re relatively impressed with the command and control associated with the J-20.”
Wilsbach made the remarks during a discussion posted on the YouTube channel of the Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies.
“We’re seeing relatively professional flying and it’s still too early to tell exactly what they intend to do with [the J-20] – whether it’s going to be more like an F-35 that’s capable of doing many, many missions or more like an F-22 that is primarily an air superiority fighter that has an air-to-ground capability.”

Source: Greg Waldron/FlightGlobal
The Shaanxi KJ-500 at Airshow China in November 2018
Wilsbach also touched on the KJ-500, which in recent years has emerged as China’s key AEW&C platform.
Powered by four turboprops, the KJ-500 is based on the Y-9 tactical transport. The aircraft carries a three-panel active electronically scanned array radar in a fixed radome above the fuselage. This is understood to provide 360° radar coverage.
“The KJ-500 plays a significant role in some of their capability for long range fires,” says Wilsbach.
“Some of their very long range air-to-air missiles are aided by that KJ-500. Being able to interrupt that kill chain is something that interests me greatly.”
China’s PL-15 long range air-to-air missile is understood to have a range in excess of 107nm (200km). The radar-guided weapon is carried by types such as the Chengdu J-10C, Shenyang J-11B, J-15 and J-16, Islamabad’s Pakistan Aeronautical Complex JF-17 Block 3, and the J-20.
Wilsbach’s remarks hint that the KJ-500 may identify and assign targets for Chinese fighters, which can then launch the active radar homing PL-15 from great stand-off distances.

F-35s have encountered J-20s over East China Sea: USAF general

A top US Air Force (USAF) general says that Lockheed Martin F-35s have had at least one encounter with Chengdu J-20s, and that the Shaanxi KJ-500 airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft has a key role in long-range air-to-air kill chains.

www.flightglobal.com

KJ-500 may identify and assign targets for Chinese fighters, which can then launch the active radar homing PL-15 from great stand-off distances.The KJ-500 plays a significant role in some of their capability for long range fires.Some of their very long range air-to-air missiles are aided by that KJ-500. Being able to interrupt that kill chain is something that interests me greatly.says Wilsbach.

 

[ym888]

On March 14 Commander of the U.S. Pacific Air Forces, Air Force General Kenneth Wilsbach, gave rare insight into prevailing American thought on China’s J-20 fifth generation fighter, commenting on the aircraft as he confirmed the first ever encounter between America’s own sole production fifth generation jet the F-35 and the J-20 over the East China Sea. “We notice that they are flying it pretty well. We recently had – I wouldn’t call it an engagement – where we got relatively close to the J-20s along with our F-35s in the East China Sea, and we’re relatively impressed with the command and control associated with the J-20,” he stated. One major point Wilsbach raised was ongoing uncertainty regarding the future of the J-20 program, namely whether it would remain a specialised dedicated air superiority fighter, or whether it would in future begin to integrate standoff air to ground or anti shipping weapons to become a multirole fighter. He stated to this effect: “It’s a bit early to say what they intend to do with the J-20, so really all we’ve seen it do is air superiority… We’re seeing relatively professional flying and it’s still too early to tell exactly what they intend to do with [the J-20] – whether it’s going to be more like an F-35 that’s capable of doing many, many missions or more like an F-22 that is primarily an air superiority fighter that has an air to ground capability.”

J-20 with Open Weapons Bays Showing PL-15 and PL-10 Missiles



The J-20 has so far been seen armed only with air to air missiles, namely the PL-15 and PL-10 for respective long and short range engagements both of which are considered among the most capable in the world. The fighter is from the same weight range as the American F-22 and Russian Su-57 fifth generation fighters, the former which cannot carry any standoff weapons for roles other than air to air combat and had a basic precision bombing capability added years after entering service, while the latter was designed from the outset to carry high diameter strike and anti ship missiles internally. The much lighter single engine F-35, which is the only fighter other than the J-20 which is both in production and fielded at squadron level strength, is versatile like the Su-57 but has a much lower endurance and smaller capacity for all kinds of weapons. It remains uncertain whether the J-20 will be more like the F-22, or like the F-35 and Su-57. Some indications that it could potentially be a multirole aircraft are that it has been assigned strike missions in simulated exercises including suppression of enemy air defences, potentially indicating that there is a standoff air to ground weapon for it either in service or under development. Another possibility is that different J-20 variants or derivatives of the design will be capable of strike missions where standard variants were not - much as a strike variant of the F-22 was considered under the FB-22 program. A twin seat variant of the J-20 unveiled in October 2021, which remains the world’s only fifth generation twin seat fighter, could potentially form the basis for development of a strike variant with a second seat favourable for such missions.

Twin Seat J-20 Prototype



General Wilsbach further elaborated on the Chinese fleet, and the role of the KJ-500 airborne early waning (AEW) aircraft which accompanied J-20s during their run in with F-35s over the East China Sea: “The KJ-500 plays a significant role in some of their capability for long range fires. Some of their very long range air to air missiles are aided by that KJ-500. Being able to interrupt that kill chain is something that interests me greatly.” While the J-20’s PL-15 has an estimated engagement range of between 200 and 300km, and comfortably outranges anything in the American arsenal, another missile the PL-XX is thought to a range exceeding 500km making it by far the longest ranged air to air missile in the world. Although it has not been seen with the fighter, it could be carried by it externally or by supporting units. 500km would exceed the radar lock on range of any known fighter, requiring support from the KJ-500 or another AEW aircraft. Wilsbach’s statement could indicate that the J-20 is expected to deploy the PL-XX or other very long ranged air to air missiles, and emphasised that the J-20 program remains focused on network centric operations. The J-20 is expected to remain the most capable fighter fielded by a potential U.S. adversary for some years to come, with some analysts considering it the most capable in the world at least until the first sixth generation jets such as the American F-X complete development, and as such assessments of its performance will continue to carry considerable relevance.

U.S. Pacific Air Force Chief Evaluates Future of China’s J-20 Fighter: An Air Superiority or Multirole Jet?

On March 14 Commander of the U.S. Pacific Air Forces, Air Force General Kenneth Wilsbach, gave rare insight into prevailing American thought on China’s J-20 fifth

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[Bhartiya Sainik]

Oh! Look! Chinese media reported that they signed friendship treaty with USA & flew side by side

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

Some new pics i found with translated labels. Most things were anticipated. Some new things found like side-AESA. aux air intakes.

 

[Super Flanker]

Some new pics i found with translated labels. Most things were anticipated. Some new things found like side-AESA. aux air intakes.

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J-20 is a very dangerous threat to India. We need to take this Stealth fighter very seriously and devise our own Tactics on how we will be able to counter it. I don't think so that Chinese J-20 can match the degree of Stealth present in 5th generation aircrafts like F-35, F-22 Raptor.

 

[Super Flanker]

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What is this Picture depicting? Are the people in the "Lab like suits" applying RAM to the J-20? What are they doing?

 

[Super Flanker]

Oh! Look! Chinese media reported that they signed friendship treaty with USA & flew side by side

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This is a fake photo right? And coming to this picture, I really feel like J-20 resemble the Canopy style of the F-35 and F-22 (like basically a mix between the 2) and the nose of the J-20 looks more like the F-35. I think so that J-20 design is like a mix of both F-22 and F-35 with only Canards added.

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

J-20 is a very dangerous threat to India. We need to take this Stealth fighter very seriously and devise our own Tactics on how we will be able to counter it. I don't think so that Chinese J-20 can match the degree of Stealth present in 5th generation aircrafts like F-35, F-22 Raptor.

Yes our AMCA need to be on track & its MK2 version should also be ready to integrate with better engine when avaiable. For now our Rafales can counter it, they gave tough fight to F-22 in exercises. J-20 doesn't have RCS new F-22/35 nor TVC yet & has not demonstrated agility which MKI & Su-35-S have so even MKI can defeat it in dogfight. In BVR the missiles are not stealthy yet, their RCS, RF emissions, plume can risk a stealth jet.
Those countries which have spy-sats can easily spot stealth jets. So RF stealth is important only to reduce range of getting locked & fired upon.

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

This is a fake photo right? And coming to this picture, I really feel like J-20 resemble the Canopy style of the F-35 and F-22 (like basically a mix between the 2) and the nose of the J-20 looks more like the F-35. I think so that J-20 design is like a mix of both F-22 and F-35 with only Canards added.

Yes obviously it is fake or it will be new wonder of the world
The fuselage of J-20 & our AMCA are identical to F-22/35.

 

[Super Flanker]

This is SU57

What is the proof? It doesn't appear to resemble any part of the SU-57 airframe, it Definitely seems to be the J-20.

 

[SexyChineseLady]

J-20 production has gone into high gear since the induction of WS-10C! Four new J-20s including a two-seater painted operational gray.

 

[SexyChineseLady]

There were three units confirmed with the initial J-20 utilizing the AL-31 engine beginning in 2016.

But since 2021, up to five formations had been spotted using the J-20A with the WS-10C engine which was first reported in mass production for J-20s just in 2019!