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[Indx TechStyle]

 

[Akula]

Good that Brazil has found India for both space and pharma industry.
The way Sivan highlighted their engineering was also nice. It was not just self praise. The fact that their minister for science and technology was witnessing and was invited to speak shows that Brazil has put in its capital to strengthening its relationship with India.

Brazil's plan for space exploration got destroyed when their rocket exploded on the launch pad and many scientists and engineers died.

 

[sorcerer]

PM congratulates NSIL and ISRO on the success of the 1st dedicated commercial launch of PSLV-C51/Amazonia-1 Mission


Posted On: 28 FEB 2021 1:24PM by PIB Delhi



The Prime Minister, Shri Narendra Modi has congratulated NSIL and ISRO on the success of the 1st dedicated commercial launch of PSLV-C51/Amazonia-1 Mission.


In a tweet, the Prime Minister said, "Congratulations to NSIL and @ISRO on the success of the 1st dedicated commercial launch of PSLV-C51/Amazonia-1 Mission. This ushers in a new era of Space reforms in the country. 18 co-passengers included four small satellites that showcase dynamism and innovation of our youth."

Congratulations to NSIL and @isro on the success of the 1st dedicated commercial launch of PSLV-C51/Amazonia-1 Mission. This ushers in a new era of Space reforms in the country. 18 co-passengers included four small satellites that showcase dynamism and innovation of our youth. pic.twitter.com/BbWYGLsyvo
— Narendra Modi (@narendramodi) February 28, 2021

The Prime Minister also congratulated the President of Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro on the successful launch of Brazil's Amazonia-1 satellite by PSLV-C51.


In another tweet, the Prime Minister said, "Congratulations President @jairbolsonaro on the successful launch of Brazil's Amazonia-1 satellite by PSLV-C51. This is a historic moment in our space cooperation and my felicitations to the scientists of Brazil."

Congratulations President @jairbolsonaro on the successful launch of Brazil's Amazonia-1 satellite by PSLV-C51. This is a historic moment in our space cooperation and my felicitations to the scientists of Brazil. @isro
— Narendra Modi (@narendramodi) February 28, 2021

Excelência @jairbolsonaro pelo sucesso do lançamento do satélite Amazônia-1 do Brasil por PSLV-C51 de @isro. Este é um momento histórico em nossa cooperação espacial e meus melhores votos para muitos outros empreendimentos como esse no futuro.
— Narendra Modi (@narendramodi) February 28, 2021

 

[indiatester]

Brazil's plan for space exploration got destroyed when their rocket exploded on the launch pad and many scientists and engineers died.

I did not know that.
No wonder those folks looked a bit tense.

 

[FalconSlayers]

I did not know that.
No wonder those folks looked a bit tense.

Brazilian space program has faced a lot of accidents, some in Brazil some in China, but this was a pleasant experience for Brazil for an accident proof launch of their first indigenous satellite, we should cooperate further.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

launch of their first indigenous satellite

*Their first earth observation satellite.

It wasn't first Brazilian satellite but we can say we launched first significantly large and advanced satellite by Brazil.

 

[Akula]

I did not know that.
No wonder those folks looked a bit tense.

Brazilians are happy with these launch. I follow a page on Insta "Space Today". It is run by a Brazilian guy. He is a great admirer of Isro and frequently post about Isro.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Too few launches, only by 4 this year till now so far.

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[HariPrasad-1]

This is about creating an ecosystem. An ecosystem which makes aerospace normal like the one in US or EU.

Space industry of India - Wikipedia

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When technology is in the hand of few, they have monopoly which gives them the right to sale it at a price they found good. When it becomes common, you need to have a cost advantage as there are many player and no one enjoys monopoly. Space sector has entered into a stage of competition. Whosoever has a cost advantage and reliability will win. I foresee Rusia and China out of competition. India will compete with US and EU for their share. US will continue to enjoy an advantage where they still enjoy monopoly such as heavy lift missions etc. ISRO needs more funding to make itself more competitive and venture into new areas.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

I fore see the start ups like Agni kool and Skyroot emerging as a big player in small satellite launch vehicle market. Small rockets with Semi cryogenic and Cryogenic engines will be very cost effective in putting small satellite in LEO, and Polar orbits. They have achieved something in their small span is commendable. Now they can make a semi cryogenic engine in single peace with 3D printing in just 4 days. I am too much excited to know all these.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Too few launches, only by 4 this year till now so far.
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China is a great space power whose rockets still fails on regular basis. Chinese mall hai.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

I foresee Rusia and China out of competition. India will compete with US and EU for their share. US will continue to enjoy an advantage where they still enjoy monopoly such as heavy lift missions etc. ISRO needs more funding to make itself more competitive and venture into new areas.

Russia and China have the kind of space industries which India wishes to build, have cost advantage over west and aren't going to be out of competition in forseeble future. Chinese and to some extent even Indian cost advantages will wear out in next 30 years.

US besides its technological efforts to bring down, isn't having any low cost advantage and is more vulnerable than any eastern power in markets.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Russia and China have the kind of space industries which India wishes to build, have cost advantage over west and aren't going to be out of competition in forseeble future. Chinese and to some extent even Indian cost advantages will wear out in next 30 years.

US besides its technological efforts to bring down, isn't having any low cost advantage and is more vulnerable than any eastern power in markets.

Any basis for these assumptions?

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Any basis for these assumptions?

Incomes and labour costs, gradual transition into upper middle and eventually high income countries.

 

[SKC]

Russia and China have the kind of space industries which India wishes to build, have cost advantage over west and aren't going to be out of competition in forseeble future. Chinese and to some extent even Indian cost advantages will wear out in next 30 years.

US besides its technological efforts to bring down, isn't having any low cost advantage and is more vulnerable than any eastern power in markets.

Private players in US are actually in market on basis of cost advantage. You just cant believe how much SpaceX lowered costs and they are still working on lowering the costs. We have been saying this that ISRO will kill big payers, we will capture all the small satellite launch market but we are still nowhere to be seen and the over enthusiasm of us Indian in seeing no limits.
SpaceX is individually keeping US ahead in launch per year lists.
Even Rocket Labs will kick our ass and few more entry level companies have started testing their small sat launchers already. We can just dream about having market to us with the pace ISRO is currently working.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Private players in US are actually in market on basis of cost advantage.

Read again what I wrote. They are there because of technological efforts to bring down cost and don't enjoy the factor one from labour costs which is a head start for companies from relatively lower income spacefaring nations before they incorporate optimum tech.

 

[SKC]

Read again what I wrote. They are there because of technological efforts to bring down cost and don't enjoy the factor one from labour costs which is a head start for companies from relatively lower income spacefaring nations before they incorporate optimum tech.

Yes, labor cost are higher there but still they are managing cost comparable to us plus look at their 10 yr plans, they will be building launchers to launch far higher of sats in space than us. SpaceX is already launching 60 starlink sat in cluster in Falcon 9, they recently broke ISRO records of launching highest no of sat in one mission. They can repurpose Falcon 9 fairing to include only small or nano sat and there goes our ISRO's lower labor cost advantages.

Look into what has already happened in space sector in Indian and rest of the world till now and what are the actual plans for next 10 years and what the companies are doing to actually realize these plans.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Incomes and labour costs, gradual transition into upper middle and eventually high income countries.

This is generally true with low tech items but countries with Lower labor cost and skills in Space technology should emerge by that time. I foresee few countries with lower labor cost but I do not foresee those countries emerging as space power who can provide space services at a lower cost. That is why I see India leading in High tech technology sectors with cost advantage for a long long time.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Yes, labor cost are higher there but still they are managing cost comparable to us plus look at their 10 yr plans, they will be building launchers to launch far higher of sats in space than us. SpaceX is already launching 60 starlink sat in cluster in Falcon 9, they recently broke ISRO records of launching highest no of sat in one mission. They can repurpose Falcon 9 fairing to include only small or nano sat and there goes our ISRO's lower labor cost advantages.

Look into what has already happened in space sector in Indian and rest of the world till now and what are the actual plans for next 10 years and what the companies are doing to actually realize these plans.

They have gain cost advantage from reusable rocket stages. ISRO too is working on the same.