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In concepts you can lift any weight.

In concepts also US had the biggest ever rocket planned:
The mighty Sea Dragon:
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Ya'll Nibbiars sea dragon theoretical Capacity was 600 Tons. That means UR 700 M planned capacity was much higher and not just planned but development work was done but further funding was not made available.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars sea dragon theoretical Capacoty was 600 Tons. That means UR 700 M planned capacity was much higher and uts not just planned but development work was done but further funding was not made available.
Then they made energia a 100 ton LEO beast.
Man, I still like that rocket.
The biggest thing and good thing was their fully reusable energia model.
 

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Then they made energia a 100 ton LEO beast.
Man, I still like that rocket.
The biggest thing and good thing was their fully reusable energia model.
Ya'll Nibbiars Planned Energia Hercules could had lifted a capacity of 175 tons but not gone beyond the conceptual stage.
 

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Then they made energia a 100 ton LEO beast.
Man, I still like that rocket.
The biggest thing and good thing was their fully reusable energia model.
Energia was simply the best rocket launch platform ever made.

So sad it got discarded due to breakup of USSR!
 

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Energia was simply the best rocket launch platform ever made.

So sad it got discarded due to breakup of USSR!
Ya'll Nibbiars still good even now if restated could be used for the Russian moon mission. The yenisei is small compared to the energia.
 

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Never realised since Soviets could never build nuclear engines.
Ya'll Nibbiars The Engine and tanks were already there for the UR 700 to lift 150 tins into the LEO. But they gone for the N 1 after the initial fundings where mocking ups and testing were carried outs.
 

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Haldilal, when we will see our energia one powered with sce-200? Please comment.
Ya'll Nibbiars depends on the funding technology is there only need the political will.
 
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Ya'll Nibbiars still good even now if restated could be used for the Russian moon mission. The yenisei is small compared to the energia.
Russians basically lost almost all stuff related to Energia and Buran program. Completely lost from Hardware to Software to designs.
Might be hit job from US after fall of USSR in 90s.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars the RD 0410 was partial success and the Soviet could had a Nuclear LV and Space craft propulsion if the funding was not cut.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars The ROSCOSMOS is already developing the TEM Nuclear Electric Rocket.
 

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Energia was simply the best rocket launch platform ever made.

So sad it got discarded due to breakup of USSR!
Ya'll Nibbiars The Engine and tanks were already there for the UR 700 to lift 150 tins into the LEO. But they gone for the N 1 after the initial fundings where mocking ups and testing were carried outs.
Energia's payload to mass ratio sucked and its bulky design reflected that Soviets weren't able make an efficient SHLV like Saturn V.
Only positive thing about Energia is that it looked majestic.
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Energia's payload to mass ratio sucked and its bulky design reflected that Soviets weren't able make an efficient SHLV like Saturn V.
Only positive thing about Energia is that it looked majestic.
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This thing is pure beauty.
Fully automated system. The clip on tanks will fly back on its back to earth and land like a plane.

Even Buran was fully automated and did clean landing on its first flight on its own.
 

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This thing is pure beauty.
Fully automated system. The clip on tanks will fly back on its back to earth and land like a plane.

Even Buran was fully automated and did clean landing on its first flight on its own.
Ya'll Nibbiars and Energia total weight was 22 lakhs kilograms and Saturn 5 was 30 lakhs kilograms. Then how does @Indx TechStyle arrived to that the Saturn 5 is better than the energia?.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars @Indx TechStyle Nibba even after attaching the 8 Zenith booster the total weight of the Energia was 58 lakhs kilograms. And capable of placing a 175 tons payload in the LEO.
 
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Well, that reduces payload to mass ratio.
Ya'll Nibbiars well the Zenith booster were not that much powerful if some better bosster attached then a better payload to the mass ratio was achievable.
 

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