Israel - Hamas Gaza Conflict Oct-2023

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world has been in unchartered territory since covid, many things have happened that were not supposed to happen in this century. every one is just guessing what happens next.
Crazier times are coming. Covid was the catalyst for the more turbulent times ahead. We need Modi as the captain to navigate through these uncharted waters.
 

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Only way to deal with this mulls bullshit is to make them infertile by some drugs given without their knowledge and slowly doing population control. No civilised nation has stomach for genocide in this age. I don’t understand why western intelligence agencies not doing this.
 

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No Sir,

It is not about complex assumptions

It is about "Not Able to Protect" just 50km Border from a "Certified Rogue Neighbor".

and that too the Border is just flat piece of land not like Mountain terrain in Kashmir


If you not then something is really wrong with you
it's the nature of this type of warfare, weak points are taken advantage of. it can happen to any country. just because it hasn't happened to some other country, doesn't mean other countries are ready to handle this type of situation.

unable to prevent an attack is just one aspect of it, the ability of a nation to gather itself, organise itself midst of chaos, and respond appropriately is a bigger task.

the country of israel has done it in matter of hours, on it's own. only public message from their top leadership is "we got hit, we will hit back". they don't have time to worry about, judgements from others.
 

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Crazier times are coming. Covid was the catalyst for the more turbulent times ahead. We need Modi as the captain to navigate through these uncharted waters.
Modi can not remain forever. And problem is going to remain. We need early solution.
 

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it's the nature of this type of warfare, weak points are taken advantage of. it can happen to any country. just because it hasn't happened to some other country, doesn't mean other countries are ready to handle this type of situation.

unable to prevent an attack is just one aspect of it, the ability of a nation to gather itself, organise itself midst of chaos, and respond appropriately is a bigger task.

the country of israel has done it in matter of hours, on it's own. only public message from their top leadership is "we got hit, we will hit back". they don't have time to worry about, judgements from others.
Sir Agreed,

But this comes only after you are been breached.

We do have our failures in Kashmir

But not to this extant because our Soldiers keep Dug into Ground around whole of Borders

We dont leave our Border unmanned and hence the difference
 

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Modi can not remain forever. And problem is going to remain. We need early solution.
Yes but he can stay till 2029. Till then, I think a lot of work on the 1.5 front would have been done. Which is alright. After that, India can ride on autopilot even if we get a coalition or incompetent govt.
 

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Sir Agreed,

But this comes only after you are been breached.

We do have our failures in Kashmir

But not to this extant because our Soldiers keep Dug into Ground around whole of Borders

We dont leave our Border unmanned and hence the difference
You gave to consider that Gaza is not their top priority, West Bank us assumed to be a more prominent launchpad.
Yes intelligence failure occurred, how did material for 8000 rockets entered Gaza through Sinai.
 

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US intel keeps taking L all the time, the last major fcuk-up was in Afgh. Even India got blindsided due to them because we trusted their intel too much. Hope we are learning.

This was Bruce Reidel just two days ago.

Bruce Riedel on Thursday: "....I think a 'third intifada' is barreling down on us like a locomotive. I'll bet you those Abraham Accords don't last an hour; they'll all throw the Israelis out."

from 1:01:00 if you are interested in the question, from 1:05:00 if interested in the specific quote.
 
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You gave to consider that Gaza is not their top priority, West Bank us assumed to be a more prominent launchpad.
Yes intelligence failure occurred, how did material for 8000 rockets entered Gaza through Sinai.
Have to Accept They never military gamed "land attack from GAZA"

It is tactical military planning failure

Rocket Attack matter not much because despite 5000 rockets - death caused by Rockets are just 5.

Yes only 5 deaths caused by Rocket Attack

Hence it really dont matter
 

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Sir ParaTroopers are always there

The difference is just the gliders

Do Armies dont have strategy agst Para Troop attacks..

If not then this something new
You have to follow the chronology.
Gaza is relatively low priority in terms of Inavaion.
Paratrooper went overheads the Unmanned defence.
At first I thought it was some dozen odd paragliding but recent videos suggest some 50 to 100 in numbers. That is some 100 odd fellas directly behind Israel's defnce.
They began shooting up the residents this forcing IDF to engage them by splitting up.
This left the borders with lesser numbers to defend with.
Next the Hama punched through the border wall by employing drones and rpgs overrunning the bases right next to the border.
 

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Sir Agreed,

But this comes only after you are been breached.

We do have our failures in Kashmir

But not to this extant because our Soldiers keep Dug into Ground around whole of Borders

We dont leave our Border unmanned and hence the difference
in military lingo, the assumption that technical border surveillance is a substitute for boots on ground falls flat. technical border surveillance can only be complementary not a substitute.
 

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Not a single statement by the top leadership of INC, other than some whattaboutery (Manipur) by some lowly spokespersons.
Being silent gives a clearer message of their allegiance.
These INC mc do not uttar a word Islamic terrorism when attack happens in India... why do we expect something on Israel.
 

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